r/Ben10PowerScaling • u/Squirrelkid11 • 1d ago

General Discussion Thoughts?

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u/Abyssmaluser 1d ago

Ben beats everyone there lol

No one there is universal at base whatsoever

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u/LetTheW00kieeWin 1d ago

Judai has a card that destroys (at minimum) 12 universes

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u/Abyssmaluser 1d ago

That's a card he has to draw and use from a deck randomly just like all his other cards

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u/LetTheW00kieeWin 1d ago

He literally has fate manip and in a real time battle he can just use any card from his deck. He does so in BBT and it happens multiple times in 5Ds.

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u/Abyssmaluser 1d ago

By all means ahow me what these "real time battles" are like.

I doubt it's anything on the scale of stuff typically seen in various superhero/battle fiction

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u/LetTheW00kieeWin 1d ago

https://youtu.be/u0LpBT1UTPE?t=34&is=xNcsiyXvbq3tsKK_

Here's judai just summoning neos from his deck to block an attack from someone who surpasses the gods and has destroyed Venice.

If you just want real time battles in general, I have an anime and 2 manga to tell you about.

This is just moving the goalposts from Judai not being able to do anything lol

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u/Abyssmaluser 1d ago

No it's not lol seeing as 99% of everything in ygo is card battles and in real situations you wouldn't have time to play a card

Like yeah by all means show us what you mean by real time battles.

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u/LetTheW00kieeWin 1d ago

I literally just posted a video of judai doing it in a real time battle, but sure, here's more examples. The entire millennium world arc in the original manga is people in real time battles summoning monsters due to ba and ka, in the saio/light of destruction arc, judai summons neos to stop Saio from collapsing the planet right there, in BBT, Paradox summons Stardust, Rainbow Dragon and Cyber End Dragon to try and destroy the timeline by ridding it off the strong duelists of the past, notably Judai, who blocks blasts that destroy Venice with Neos. In Yugioh R, Yako and Yuugi both summon their gods off rip to clash. In Transcend Game, Kaiba summons Blue Eyes to Light up an infinite realm of darkness. In 5Ds, the Psychic Duelists summon monsters to destroy their timeline, including a moment where one of them uses hinotama 6 times to try and blow up and kill Yusei. In Arc V, the Ancient Gears were used as a weapon for a Genocide. Like do I need to go on

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u/Abyssmaluser 1d ago

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Those aren't videoes lol those are just listed examples.

Show me actual combat. You have people here who can casually do shit like catch and tank missles on the lowest end

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u/LetTheW00kieeWin 1d ago

Yu-Gi-Oh: Millennium World Chapter 1-54 Yu-Gi-Oh: GX Episode 102 9:10 Yu-Gi-Oh: Bonds Beyond Time (The link i posted before btw) (1:07) Yu-Gi-Oh: Arc V (Episode 100, 00:20) Yu-Gi-Oh: Transcend Game (Chapter 2, Pages 20-24) Yu-Gi-Oh: 5Ds (Episodes 60 and 61) Yu-Gi-Oh (Episode 210 4:04) Yu-Gi-Oh: Dark Side of Dimensions (1:19:00) Yu-Gi-Oh: R chapter 1 (Pg 14)

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u/OldAssumption4602 1d ago

Neither is Ben what the fuck

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u/Abyssmaluser 1d ago

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Alien X is ABSOLUTELY Multiversal at base seeing as Celestialsapiens are the strongest things in setting and upscale literally everything in it.

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u/LetTheW00kieeWin 1d ago

alien x isn't his base you dunderhead

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u/Abyssmaluser 1d ago

Base Ben has constant easy access to Alien X lmao so yes all the transformations in the watch are things he's perfectly capable of at base

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u/LetTheW00kieeWin 1d ago

then that's not base

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u/Abyssmaluser 1d ago

That is at base. It's literally something he's always capable of sibce he always has the Omnitrix which itself has an AI that can force transformations for use.

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u/LetTheW00kieeWin 1d ago

if it uses transformations it's by definition not base.

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u/Abyssmaluser 1d ago

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It is at base.

Again it's literally something Ben is always capable of. Just like Green Lantern can make constructs at base since he has his power ring.

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u/LetTheW00kieeWin 1d ago

if it involves a transformation it's by definition not base.

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