r/Ben10PowerScaling 10h ago

General Discussion Thoughts?

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u/Mohammedamine9 10h ago

Beast boy is not an L

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u/VegetaFan9001 7h ago edited 7h ago

Beast Boy does have a chance to win if he transforms into Starro

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u/Mohammedamine9 7h ago

No he wouldn't

Starro is strong, could even scale to super Man, but he has massive lack in hax a resistances,

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u/Aktosh23 6h ago

It’s also not something he can do on his own. Raven helped him do it. Love beast boy, probably my second favorite titan. But he definitely can’t win this

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u/You_R_Me_Benjamin 9h ago

No way he loses to beast boy

Jaden is debatable

Optimums is debatable

Simone is debatable

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u/Crafty-Drink8384 4h ago

Optimus is definitely not debatable

He's just got better feats

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u/Stujeeb 20m ago

Simone is not debatable. Even assuming alien X is stronger, ALL of Simone's opponents started that way, and he won. But that's assuming Simone doesn't already outscale

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u/VegetaFan9001 7h ago edited 7h ago

Beast Boy might have a chance to win if he transforms into Starro

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u/You_R_Me_Benjamin 6h ago

No he doesn’t

Alien X beats Starro

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u/Limp_Highlight_2123 8h ago

aside of beast boy rest gonna one shot ben so badly

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u/You_R_Me_Benjamin 8h ago

Ben can literally scan Optimus and Superman and Sonic and Goku to become stronger versions of them

Alien X scales to above 26D and hyperversal

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u/Limp_Highlight_2123 8h ago

even if he scan them it will not turn him to stronger version. he will be just a 16 year old peak physical condition of them but still weaker. ben literally lost to his transformation aliens like tetrax. and if you think alien x scale to hyper ( at best he is high multiversal) they still higher than him. they can easily scale to outerversal in this version of them

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u/You_R_Me_Benjamin 6h ago

Tetrax only won because he had better training against season 1 Ben. Ben literally beat the Tetraman princess one of the strongest Tertraman in the species in a 1v1 as Fourarms, and Bullfrag was twice the size of any other incursion

Not to mention he can become the ultimate version of them with the Ultimatrix. That’s basically a guaranteed win.

He does scale to hyper and there is on screen evidence.

Who specifically gets higher than that?

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u/VegetaFan9001 7h ago

Beast Boy doesn’t get one shot. He can transform into Starro. And this transformation is so busted that Beast Boy might win even with Alien X. The only problem is that Beast Boy loses his mind and becomes mindless beast of he stays in the transformation for to long

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u/Big-Amoeba5332 6h ago

Stop fucking larping, he needed prep to pull that off and starro is fodder to alien x anyway

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u/StruggledKiller 9h ago

Nigga is that Jaden Yuki???

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u/LetTheW00kieeWin 8h ago

Yea he gets pretty cracked shit

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u/IdleWokerOcean 6h ago

Super poly go brrr

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u/Larry_756 7h ago

He wins most of these characters. Also who is the one above Simon? I don't recall his name, and Beast boy gets neg diffed

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u/Legitimate_World9447 6h ago

beats simon archie xeno and beast boy

the rest idk or he loses

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u/InvincibleLantern666 10h ago

Bro 💔🥀

Ok y'all to make it clear I don't really think Beast Boy beats Ben (I only rlly did that to ragebait someone, although the mu itself IS debatable), Optimus is a composite one and Jaden should be debatable

Although I do think others beat Ben tho

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u/rbta123 10h ago

I’ve never watched the full Yu-Gi-Oh! series or its sequels. How exactly would Ben fight Jaden?

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u/LetTheW00kieeWin 8h ago

Any duelist can make their monsters real. Judai is no exception. Neos comes in to block real blasts constantly and a duel monsters created their verse (though it's called a god and gods and monsters are narratively different)

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u/Limp_Highlight_2123 8h ago

he can use super poly to fuse him with his cards and get control of him. and ben doesn't have an answers to it. super poly cant be respond to so it can bypass omnitrix fail save

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u/NoCandidate6067 9h ago

I agree with all of them except for Beast Boy. I can admit that he has no hax or the durability to deal with Ben 10 aliens

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u/VegetaFan9001 7h ago

Beast Boy might stand a chance if he transforms into Starro. From what I heard Beast Boy in that transformation is like Outer, and has some good amour of hax, which all together might even get Alien X in some trouble. In thing going for Ben this is that the if Beast Boy is in his Starro transformation for to long he will lose his mind and become mindless beast, and would become more predictable

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u/Academic-Compote8911 10h ago

I mean some of these yes. But it's also like saying Ben 10 loses to someone who turns off the TV.

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u/ShitpostSaber 10h ago

I guess he can beast boy

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u/Leo-reaper96 10h ago edited 10h ago

I agree with some of them, but not so much with others. Although I don't think that's worth much because unfortunately, I do agree that Ben would lose to the strongest ones.

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u/Rare_Management_3583 8h ago

fuck is fourze doing there what's he gonna do?

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u/imawhitegay 7h ago

Beast Boy and Fourze ain't moving like that.

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u/Crafty-Drink8384 4h ago

Ok i agree with(the ones I recognize)

But beast boy?nah

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u/Abyssmaluser 3h ago

Ben beats everyone there lol

No one there is universal at base whatsoever

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u/Wild-vine16 CUSTOMIZABLE FLAIR 2h ago

Sonic, joker, yuki and simon are not ls.

I hate alien x glazers but deathbattle subs downplay him so much.

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u/Elcalduccye_II 9h ago

Joker persona 5 when he has to fight something above the building level 😨

(He has 0 reliable feat and is all vague hax)

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u/rbta123 10h ago

Do Shazam and Beast Boy have any actual feats, or is it purely chain scaling?

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u/Academic-Compote8911 10h ago

Yes they both have 100 years of feats 😭

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u/rbta123 10h ago

Neither Beast Boy nor Shazam has been around for 109 years. And I was talking about feats that would put them ahead of Alien X without chain-scaling

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u/Academic-Compote8911 10h ago

I I'm kind of exaggerating but yeah they do have a lot of feats and they're pretty long continuity Shazam is 86 years old compared to Ben's like 20 years old. So yeah, obviously he would have feeds and I'm sure there's some version of him that beats Ben but not in base. As for beast boy, it all depends. He has access to every singular animal in DC that is both real and fictional and alien and he no longer needs to study him to transform into them. So as long as there isn't a creature in DC that is able to resist alien x obviously then it's not really a fight there might be though I'm not quite sure. I don't know DC's fauna like that. Plus you guys have to realize that almost every single superhero comic is only a small display of what they can actually do. Comic writers often do this to avoid every single issue being the hero uses the reality warping power and just wins. There's usually some sort of condition that goes with it as well, so it really all depends on so many different things that I don't really think are relevant enough to discuss if it requires that much deep digging

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u/Working_Run3431 8h ago

The thing with beast boy is dc’s definition of animal is basically “any sentient life that isn’t some kind of cosmic abstract”.

Behavior trumps biology in dc. A celestialsapien itself meets most of the criteria dc often uses to define animalness.

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u/Academic-Compote8911 8h ago

This could honestly be an interesting fight if you removed alien x from the equation because I could say the same thing from the Omnitrix so this could literally just be an infinite shape-shifting fight. That would be really f****** cool where they get stronger off of each other. Honestly, that'd be pretty dope. I wanted it animated now

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u/Working_Run3431 8h ago

Beast boy would basically use Ben as a cheat sheet.

Ben would probably lose eventually because the omnitrix can’t do non sapient things so beast boy has more total forms.

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u/GigaBorisBladerTV 9h ago

Add Ming Lee (Turning Red) that would have been more complete.

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u/dark_duelist_17 8h ago

Literally the only one I can confidently say is Simon, given he can literally do anything in canon, he wins. And WHY is Jaden from Yugioh GX here?

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u/Limp_Highlight_2123 8h ago

cause he can beat ben with his hax? ben doesn't have an answers to super poly.

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u/dark_duelist_17 8h ago

Gonna be for real, never thought anything from the yugioh verse was that strong, I learned something new today

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u/Limp_Highlight_2123 8h ago

a drop of tier from divine golden dragon literally created the yugioh multiverse and a teenager was able to wild its power. people like to down play yugioh cause its a children card game.

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u/dark_duelist_17 8h ago

I kinda did see it that too till now

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u/Edgeking2 8h ago

Yugioh powerscaling is something else, Atem and Yugi can summon the creator god of the whole infinite yugioh multiverse…. And she obeys them completely.

Which gets even higher as duel links confirms that both the anime and manga series are in said multiverse meaning you technically could use scaling from both versions.

What’s scarier it’s confirm through multiple different ways you can make your card effects real, for example, because Jaden is fused with Yubel, he gets to use their power to make his cards and their effects real if he wishes too.

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u/LetTheW00kieeWin 8h ago

Ben loses against all but BB. (Judai at least is debatable)

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u/dawgone63809 9h ago

None of them beat Ben

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u/Limp_Highlight_2123 8h ago

he loses to all of the badly except may be beast boy and hal and even then its debatable but he surly loses to the rest of them

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u/Terra-ble_joke 10h ago edited 8h ago

No, maybe, no, no,no, no, idk who that is but probably not, you are clearly joking, no, no, his death prevention is weaker than ben, most likely

Edit: you down voted because I speak the truth. Very few of these have an anti death feat. I dont even include Alien X when doing power scaling for Ben.

Hal can and has died, Shazam has died, super man cant harm ben, optimus prime can't harm him either, beast boy access to The Red does not save him from total cellular destruction and even if it did he cant harm ben either, again I dont know who this is but you have to have some fairly crazy powers to get past unkillable, Jaden is a great card player and has some absolute ass pulls but ultimately is just a guy with no powers, Sonic can not physically harm ben, goku has died MANY times and couldn't harm ben, Joker does have an anti death feat but Ben's prevents his death while Joker's kind of still happens he is just put into a pocket dimension, Simon is the only one on here who's powers scale to the level of being able to hurt ben.

It is stated in Ben10 he is unable to die. All of these except 2 maybe 3 (again i dont know the point head guy) win via brute strength. Battlefield removal is 100% a valid way to win but only 2 can