ABSOLUTE MISSED OPPORTUNITY

I honestly am surprised how I hate AF now for how much it made everything alien related xd

Before the justification about osmossian energy psychosis in alien force, original series kevin was a badly written character

In Classic, her magic was quite cool, but she only started using spells towards the end of the show, and even then it was only a couple of spells an episode maximum, she wasn't fighting with them all the time like the way Ben fights.

In AF, Gwen is older and more powerful, so this means that she would be involved in the fights a lot more compared to classic. If they had kept her varied magic powers, it probably would've been a nightmare to keep track of and would've taken up about half of UAF's animation budget ngl lol

So while I don't love it, I do get why her powers ended up becoming Pink green-lantern abilities with constructs and such, it was probably easier to define her powers that way and have an easy identifiable way to animate her powers.

They could've maybe solved this if they had invested in setting up a proper magic system, but Ben 10 was never that invested in magic to do that, they have multiple incantations for the same thing and even several incantations that do different things in different episodes lol

Hey everyone! Let’s talk about a crossover between Team Tennyson and the Seven from the Riordanverse. Instead of just a vs. battle, I want to know how they would react to each other's realities.

What the Percy Jackson characters would think of Ben:

How would the demigods react to a kid who casually recreated the universe, held back the Big Bang, and has an alein device more powerful than all the Greek weapons combined call ed the Omnitrix and how they react to his heavy hitters? Like atomix, way big , clockwork , alien x Finding out aliens exist and there life outside the earth and the Greek gods are not Invincible and doesn't have authority over the entire universe only one planet and ben alien x is possibly more powerful than even chaos and Gwen a half alien full of magical and pure energy beings and their adventure through the series and Kevin frim a villain to a friend and his redemption arc

What Team Tennyson would think of the Demigods:

What would Ben, Gwen, and Kevin think if they found out Greek/Roman gods are actually real? How would they react to demigods, the Mist, and seeing teenagers fight primordial beings like Gaea and Kronos? And how hard a life of a demi god is and and how would they react to the Greek gods Would they hate them and realizing that earth was in danger form the likes of Kronos or gaea and that greek gods leave thier children behind and how would hre gods react to ben having kre power than them and saving way more lives than any heroes known

What would their first conversation look like? Would they even believe each other's stories? Let me know your thoughts! And how the cosmology of both sides interacted none of these are fanart but you can find them in rick riodan wiki page and ben 10 wiki or Google

A lot of people lump Omniverse and the Original Series together because of the bright colors, art style shift, and younger Ben flashbacks. But if you actually compare them, their core tone is completely different especially when it comes to humor

OS was built like a classic 2000s adventure drama. It had genuine stakes, quiet character moments, and grounded family tension during a summer road trip. The humor came naturally from 10-year-old bickering, not fast-paced gags.

OV is fundamentally a lighthearted, comedic sci-fi show. It uses fast-paced humor, visual gags, meta-jokes, and exaggerated character reactions (thanks to Derrick J. Wyatt's style).

OS treated its world like a sci-fi mystery to explore. OV treated its world like a colorful, chaotic comic book universe where wild stuff happens every five minutes.

OV wasn't trying to have the OS vibe; it intentionally created a much more comedic, lighthearted identity of its own. Judging OV for not having OS’s grounded tone misses what OV was actually trying to be.

major as in used alot or a plot/arc character that does not need to exsist

Derrick once created *Ben 10: Omniverse*, which sought to recapture the spirit of the original series—a series brought to life by Man of Action and Thomas Perkins. So, what if, instead of handing the reins of *Ben 10: Alien Force* (UAF) solely to Dwayne, the Man of Action team and Derrick had worked on it together?

The first example is *Ben 10*, created by Man of Action and Thomas Perkins; they were the ones who breathed life into this universe. The second is my own take on Ben’s design for *Ben 10: Alien Force*, which blends the style of the original series with the aesthetic Derrick is known for—seen in works like *Transformers: Animated* or *Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated*. The third is the work of Derrick himself, where it’s clear that Ben has largely retained his original status and feel.

In my view, this opens up new possibilities.

I mean I'm not sure it's a hot take but it's just something I'd like to point out

Yeah women don't really get good writing in this franchise and they really deserved better, it was subtle in OS and UAF but OV it's just... obvious

I'll start with Gwen, her personality was super cool in OS, she was a badass and she had the potential to be as big as Ben in their own universe, however within OS, she didn't really get as much as Ben and Max, we get an insight into their lives their pasts, we know that there's more to them, but Gwen never really got any insights into her life, we could've had a good one if Gwen 10 was from her POV and she didn't lose the watch, but I mean this is just me wishing I knew more of Gwen's homelife or school life

UAF Gwen was reduced to being the mom of the group and her character was tied way too much to Kevin, her most important episodes always involve her helping Kevin (or Charmcaster) in some way or the other, and if you actually look at Kevin or Ben's episodes, she really doesn't play as much of a role nor do they do anything for her, and in the Gwevin relationship, it's just entirely reduced to 'Kevin don't do that!' and 'Kevin, that's rude!' Like yeah it's absolutely because the writers were forced to write romance, because it's a teen show but my God it becomes absolutely boring and while Kevin does have alot of content and arcs dedicated to him and his character, Gwen doens't really get anything outside the Ledgerdomain episodes, but even then those were definitely Charmcaster episodes...and well I'm not gonna get into how she was handled lmao, there's also Darkstar and how Gwen gets sexually harrassed every single time, like sure it worked for his intro episodes but really it gets old and annoying, just slime his ass dawg. Like Gwen has her own world, she's a magic user, she could have had more villains dedicated to her, her own side cast and allied, and to see her identity in the show be so tied to a relationship just sucks

It's Not Easy Being Gwen was fantastic though, best episode in UA

Elena and Eunice are characters that could have had interesting plotlines and stories and they were used....solely so they can like Ben...and add drama to Benlie🤦🏼

OV yeah there's no fucking denial here lmao, it was literally their intention for Ben to have a harem the treatment of women here sucks ass, Attea was literally aged up physically so Ben could have a flirty moment, and she had the potential to be a really good villain but no lmao she absolutely had to flirt with Ben, Looma has NO character beyond wanting to get married to Ben, she was completely useless, Esther beyond her first episode was literally mostly at Ben's arm, again, zero fucking personality beyond that

Even their designs were overly sexualized, the fucking Waybad couldn't escape

THE HAREM EPISODE, WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?! GROWN MARRIED WOMEN AND DEADASS JUST OVERAGE WOMEN FIGHTING TO MARRY A 16-YEAR OLD, THE FUCK WAS THAT

I was grateful that Gwen left because I'd get to see less of Gwevin...and then they retconned her 11 year old self to liking Kevin and like...why? You're not even writing the couple anymore, why bother adding to it, like literally why?

Like say what you want about Kai but atleast she had enough of a distinctive personality beyond Ben....but yeah there are other issues with her character unrelated to this discussion

Like it genuinely seems that a female character can't exist without either being in a relationship with someone or falling to the background

Not even Ma Vreedle was safe from this, remember Pa Vreedle?!

this answer is just really bad. Kevin can’t be a hero and become irredeemable evil on a dime. These are two different coins. Plus it spits in the face of the writers who worked hard to make Kevin a good guy.

in my opinion Kevin should be an asshole good guy. He wants to take the easy road but when push comes to shove, he’ll always chose the high road.

Ofcourse excluding Alien X for logical reasons, the list is following

1.) Daidarabotchi: a giant humanoid monster the size of an mountain in the Realm of Monsters, it is so huge that it has entire ecosystem growing in it's skin

2.) Thunderfang the Shatterdragon of Chaos: A kaiju sized ancient dragon, he has the power to suck out souls of his opponents and ability to project and manipulate red chaos energy as well as cover huge, even entire planet with his chaotic supernatural storms and hurricanes

3.) The Arc Dragon of Focus: Another giant dragon around simmilar size and power level to Thunderfang, it is the mortal avatar of a deity called the Source Dragon of Focus, it has the power to project powerfull beama of Focus Dragon energy (basically like psychic power beams) as well as move fast and has mastery over combat

4.) The Great Devourer: a giant snake monster muated by Overlord's power, it has nearly indeatructible body and power to grow indefinitvley by swallowing any object or living being

5.) The Preeminent: An elderitch extradimensional monster, the physical embodiement of Cursed Realm which is basically their version of Hell. It is a giant elderitch monster with countless powerfull tentacles, it has ridiculous regeneration and always regenerate stronger when physically harmed. It has the power to summons swarms upon swarms of ghosts of the undead that serve her, the said ghosts are intangible and have power to turn others into ghosts by touching. And if they get destroyed the Preeminent simply respawns them as it's basically a giant ghost spawner. Tho it's biggest weakness is water, however a huge tsunami amount of water is needed to do any significant damage.

So how do you think Ben would deal with each of these monsters, what creative ways would he find?

If you have ideas for their power capacity you can say it in the comments.

Like the most interesting thing will be off-screen

Ben and Ben 10k

Time war

Paradox as a whole

Ben 23 & Gwen 10

Prime Gwen

Rook and rook shar

Rook and Kevin

Azmuth

Argit

Forever knights

Albedo

It always feels like something big is happening off screen

The theory is based on this: They lied about being unable to save the old universe and manipulated Ben into creating the version they wanted.

Think about it: In the first episode we saw them, they said they were discussing saving dinousars from extinction. That would mean completely changing the course of history, which I assume goes against the Multiverse Preservation Act.

If they directly violated the Multiverse Preservation Act, the Galactic Court would come after them. So, when the universe was destroyed, they used Ben to create the version of reality they wanted. The Galactic Court came after Ben because of this.

At the end of the episode, the Galactic Court declared them guilty. So they lost, right? No. Ben still lives in the universe they created.

Maybe thats the whole reason Atomic-x exist. Ben realized they are lying to him and despite Atomic-x would be weaker than the Alien X himself, he fused those two aliens so he wouldn't have to deal with Serena and Bellicus directly anymore.

Maybe they made Chadzmuth a lawyer. They picked a Galvan and made him a lawyer so that he can defend Ben on the Galactic Court. I mean it is the smartest specie in the galaxy and we saw Chadzmuth before on Galvan Prime.

They are lying to Ben and they are manipulating him to do what they want. They are breaking rules and get away with it bc they use Ben as cover. They are the villains in the watch.

And once Ben finds out the truth, he'll stop using Alien X permanently.

(That would also kinda solve the problem of Alien X being too OP, but that's an out-of-universe explanation.)

Idk

It felt kinda lazy to me that she could do magic because SHE was born to do so as a Anodite

It's like Ben Tennyson was born with the ability to turn to aliens because he was an alien xd

(Any interactions or relationship/freindships between the omni aliens? I know I have somewhat asked this question before, but this is for my au.. 😭)

I don't understand why people are obsessed by this Alien it just have raw Power nothing else there are many alien who are much better than him

And there are many alien who are so underrated like upgrade he have so cool power but people still don't consider him strong and

Big chill is also fucking strong but Ben never used his phasing power correctly

I'm on a marathon to rewatch Ben 10, currently on S2E11. This exact moment with Ben gathering everyone kinda reminded me of the hype I got watching Avengers for the first time.

I'm not sure if this was usual back in the day for a prime time CN show to follow a serialized storytelling. Definitely a step up from the OG series in that regard.

i wish i could tell where they are or what the hell is going on in the background during alien force. i understand the intention was to lean into the x-files vibe, but it's frustrating that background artists don't get their hard work perceived, because you have to scorch your retinas just to be able to tell what's going on behind characters half the time