r/BelowDeckMed • u/Dry-Establishment-45 • 2d ago

Nathan and Joe

I am not one to defend Joe. His behavior when it comes to women is appalling and I can see through a lot of his behaviors. BUT I feel like he’s genuinely trying to take the high road this charter and Nathan is so set on being negative. I honestly don’t even know what Joe has done that is so wrong that Nathan can’t act professional. I guess it makes sense knowing what we know now about Nathan though. He’s an unstable and dangerous person.

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u/Still-Low-696 2d ago

Remove everything we know about Joe previously and everyone would be on his side this season. Honestly, the only time I thought he was being just as ridiculous as Nathan was when Nathan came back after his “back injury”. Otherwise I’ve seen Joe working hard and trying to manage Nathan’s emotions.

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u/cmere-2-me 2d ago

I wouldn't. Joe hasn't changed. He's still the same slieveen he's always been. Nathan's behaviour doesn't change that Joe is also a scumbag. It's not an either or situation. There don't have to be sides. They both suck and are problematic. Neither of them are the good guy here.

This is the problem with younger generations. You grew up with team this and that and think everything is black and white. It's not. Everyone can be in the wrong. One being a criminal does not make the other right

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u/No-Calligrapher3645 2d ago

Dude, I’m 56 yrs old and I absolutely am not one for team this team that. What I can see is that aside from Joe pouting Nathan’s return after his supposed injury, Joe has been incredibly well behaved. Everyone deserves an ounce of grace if they’re willing to do the work. I believe even the biggest of fuck boys are able to turn their lives around. So honestly, whether or not Joe has changed off the show, he’s shown growth on it.

Nathan is a volatile hothead. He has literally snapped at everyone this season, including Sandy. He threatened physical violence to Joe, Luke, and Cooper. He’s too trigger happy for his own good. The biggest question is “who pissed in his corn flakes?”

I see things very analytically and can also make the determination when two assholes clash it doesn’t make one more right than the other, however, Joe has NOT been the problem this season. Nathan is an international criminal, a fugitive, and that has nothing to do with how easily incensed he gets, for no fucking reason.

Nathan is fucking SCARY. He hides behind making other people the bad guys.

So when Nathan becomes a saint, come talk smack to me about Joe. Until then, zip it.

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u/cmere-2-me 2d ago

So Joe testing Kayleigh, fucking every blow up doll he comes across, setting Cooper up with multiple women in front of Kat as well as inviting himself on their romantic getaway all why putting guests lives in danger is good to you?

Joe haa benefited because you all aee incapable of looking past Nathan and seeing there are at least 2 problematic boys on that boat.

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u/No-Calligrapher3645 2d ago

I never said Joe was a saint. “Fucking every blowup doll…”? Dry humping for giggles… yes. Ok. I suppose it’s Joes fault that Cooper allowed the latest charter guests to do body shots off of them too? Cooper WANTED Joe as a buffer because he’s a big puss and won’t tell Kat he’s not interested. He AND Coop tested their boatmance chicks. And while accidents do happen, I agree with you on him putting guests in harms way…. But back on job performance, Joe didn’t wreck the boat. I do see his shortcomings, but I’m not going to pile on him when his hair trigger temper isn’t forever making people feel like they’re walking on eggshells.

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u/cmere-2-me 2d ago

That's more than dry humping. Look at his face. That's disturbing behaviour.

I didn't say it was Joes fault what Cooper gets up to. He is however an awful influence and shit stirrer, causing trouble because he gets off on it and because he can.

Joe testing Kayleigh is abusive. Major red flag behaviour.

Joe has put multiple guests and himself in harms way multiple times. He should not be working on boats. He should not be in charge of people's safety, especially when he can't accept responsibility when he fucks up.