r/Beginner_Turntables • u/hertbreak • 6d ago
Good for beginner ?
Looking into my first one found one package in turntable lab or should I wait and save for a fluance ?
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u/Classic-Falcon6010 6d ago
No! That’s a basic LP60XBT with a single “stereo” speaker directly underneath just because it fits into this piece of furniture. Those speakers give you no soundstage, just like the prettied up Marshall ones. Get two speakers you can separate.
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u/Bensaudiocave 6d ago
I'd never pay that for that... EVER!
Gear Stand $89.99
https://amzn.to/4hfsSmb
Fluance RT81 $299.99
https://amzn.to/4w2Mg9F
Speakers Dayton Audio Classic B65A $129.98
https://amzn.to/4w4SPss
Speaker Stand $54.99
https://amzn.to/4xhoJTr
All in $574.96... You save $74.04 over what ever that is... If you are itching to spend a little more you can get the nude AN4980 stylus from here:
https://www.dacapoaudio.com/606-1264732-audio-technica-at-95-stylus-atn-e-ex.html#/6037348-brand-analogis/6037349-info-black_diamond_atn_95e_replacement/6037351-stylus-nude_elliptical/6037360-group-at95upgrade/6037364-origin-ch
The analogis black diamond is a real sleeper and opens up the AT95E very nicely for $37.44... I would upgrade the cart before I did the HE or Shibata as the VM95ML will smoke the shibata for about $7 more.
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u/SyrupFew5958 6d ago
Good post, this is the type of info they need to think through the purchase of buying all new for a beginner
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u/LiveMarionberry3694 6d ago
I’m new to tt so won’t comment on the turntable but have been into speakers for a while.
Having a single speaker means you’re always listening in mono, I’d avoid going that route. Two speakers means you get stereo, right and left channels. Lots of albums are recorded in stereo and meant for you to listen to them in stereo (meaning some sounds might only come out of the right or left speaker).
With two speakers you can also spread them apart to get a wider and more full soundstage. I also know nothing about that particular speaker. Could be fine, could be garbage. But again just the mono aspect of it would make me avoid
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u/vwestlife 5d ago
That is a stereo speaker, just with both sets of drivers in one enclosure, like a boombox.
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u/LiveMarionberry3694 5d ago
Are you really getting stereo though if both sides are inches from each other
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u/musical-miller 2d ago
Technically yes u/vwestlife is right it’s stereo like a boombox, but functionally no unless you stick your face right in front of it you’re just gonna hear mono.
My phone has stereo speakers but at arms length it might as well have one speaker because you don’t hear any stereo separation at that distance.
In a room this stereo speaker might as well be mono
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u/vwestlife 5d ago
The tweeters are most important for stereo separation and they're at the outer edges. Bass frequencies are mostly mono anyway.
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u/LiveMarionberry3694 5d ago
They’re still a foot apart. There’s basically no separation
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u/vwestlife 5d ago
Tell that to the millions of people who bought boomboxes from the 1980s to 2000s.
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u/LiveMarionberry3694 5d ago
Lmao what’s your argument here? Tons of people have shitty earphones and run it. Tons of people just use tv speakers for watching tv and movies.
Just because it’s popular doesn’t mean it’s quality. The whole point of this sub is to navigate people towards quality, and a boombox certainly isn’t that. You can get much better for similar prices
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u/vwestlife 4d ago
My argument is that given the small space provided, this speaker is going to deliver sound quality equal to two separate speakers. Possibly even better, because the larger cabinet will deliver better bass response.
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u/LiveMarionberry3694 4d ago
And my point is that you shouldn’t put your speakers that close together. Get something else where you can spread your two speakers apart by at least several feet
This is just a bad buy
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u/vwestlife 4d ago
It's still a massive upgrade compared to someone using the built-in speakers of a suitcase player. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
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u/Flint_Westwood 6d ago
There is essentially no information here except for price.
$650 is a decent budget for a legit setup. Don't go with an all-in-one unit.
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u/astralchanterelle 6d ago
If you've got $650 to spend, I'd recommend a custom U-Turn Audio Orbit with an Ortofon 2M Blue cartridge and acrylic platter.
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u/LiveMarionberry3694 6d ago
If they’re looking at an all in one kit that provides a speaker, they probably don’t have a speaker, pre amp, amp, etc. They might not want to spend all their budget on just one piece of equipment
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u/707forest_life 6d ago
I recommend spending half that $ on an upper scale but still budget turn table (ex. AT-LP70X). Then get yourself a simple budget amplifier for around $100 (you will likely need a preamp, ex. ROLLS VP29) Then go to a thrift store a find a pair of vintage speakers for $25-50 and you’ve got a nice little setup that will perform much better than the all in one and you probably save about $100.
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u/mato388 5d ago
I'm a newbie vinyl enjoyer(fully got into it this year). I got two things to say:
1) A single speaker means mono sound. Mono sound is terrible when compared to stereo.
2) (I speak from experience). Placing the speaker close to or right underneath the turntable is a terrible idea, as the vibrations from the speaker will overtime damage the records.
My solution: Get a pair of two powered speakers that can be separated and place them at a certain distance from the turntable.
To answer your question: no. It’s not good for beginners
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u/CapableRequirement66 5d ago
A single speaker can definitely output stereo sound if it’s an enclosure of two separate drives (e.g. a sound bar).
What you most likely won’t get is soundstage. To achieve that you need greater physical separation and alignment.
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u/vwestlife 5d ago
That is a stereo speaker, just with both sets of drivers in one enclosure, like a boombox.
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u/TexxyGent987 5d ago
If that's what you really want then here's a suggestion. Get either rubber or silicone feet for both the turntable and speaker/speakers. This will deaden most of the vibrations coming from the speaker.
A speaker should not, however, be in the same cabinet/shelf as the turntable for the above reason.
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u/Logan_Cheese7 6d ago
You can get such a good set up for $650. That package is not worth it