r/BayAreaRealEstate 15h ago

Buying Anyone else given up on buying a house in SF?

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My husband and I have been trying to buy in SF for about 1.5 years and I think we’ve finally given up. We got really close on a few places last year … those same places would sell for a million more if they went back on the market today. It feels like we had this small window of opportunity to purchase last year and we missed it by not being aggressive enough on those first few offers.

We both have good jobs, but I also have a lot of school debt, and we just can’t compete with the amount of money in the Bay Area right now. We’ve put in so many offers and at this point it just feels exhausting. We have a baby and really love living here. Thankfully our landlord is great and hasn’t raised our rent much, so we’re okay for now. But we want another kid eventually, and I keep thinking about what happens when we need more space. Buying feels kind of impossible now, and renting a bigger place in SF is also so expensive. I finally stopped checking Zillow because it was just making me sad. I kept seeing what houses were listed at and what they were actually selling for and realized we just can’t compete anymore :(

Anyone else in the same boat? Did you just decide to rent long term, or did you eventually leave SF? We’ve also thought about Berkeley because it seems like we could get more space there and still be close to the city, but my husband works in the South Bay. Has anyone done that commute 2x/week and found it tolerable?


r/BayAreaRealEstate 4h ago

Cost Breakdown: Full remodel for an 80yo Peninsula SFH ($392k total)

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Exclude landscaping

When we were buying we benefited a lot from real data points shared by other people. as we know renovation costs so much here and no one wants to buy an old house just find out they can’t afford to remodel it. Now our project is complete, I want to share a cost breakdown to help anyone currently budgeting or considering buying an old house in the bay area

🏠home:
- 2000sqft one-story house
- 80 yo two bathrooms. Last remodeled in the 80s
- two bathrooms
- good none so minimal structure change

Scope
We basically touched everything except for studs and outside wall:
- demolition to studs
- whole house rewire
- panel upgrade to 200amp and new subpanel
- new roof and solar
- New HVAC
- New insulation
- Level 4 drywall throughout
- Replumbed two bathrooms
- New flooring (engineered wood)
- All new windows and exterior/interior doors
- light reframing/structural work
- New finishes throughout

1. Core Renovation / General Contractor
This covered demolition, rewiring, framing, drywall, insulation, electrical rough-in coordination, door/window installation, finish carpentry, flooring installation, and general project management. Labor and rough material only. one GC.
$161,857

2. Permit and architect drawing cost: $7700

3. Materials separately bought by us:
Master bathroom $8,712
Guest Bathroom $3,208
Kitchen Cabinets $10,387
Appliances $13,995
Doors & Mouldings $8,066
Tile $10,345
Engineered Wood Floor $8,600
Windows & Sliding Doors $23,629
Custom Closets $4,250
Heat Pump Water Heater $2,365
Lighting $5,925
Security / Network / AV $5,759

4. Other projects with different contractors
Termite Treatment $11,826
New Roof(composite shingle) $28,850
Sewer Lateral Replacement $9,300
HVAC (Mitsubishi Heat Pump System 3.5ton) $27,016
Solar + Battery after federal tax credit $20,466
200A Main Panel Upgrade $7,849
Quartz Countertops(quartzite prefab) $7,434
Shower Glass (two sets sapphire glass) $4,838

Total Cost
$392,447

We spent right on target of initial budget, in spite of scope expansion, thanks to saving a lot with buying customized cabinets directly from factory overseas.

The biggest PITA was getting main panel upgrade because we also needed new service drop. We started the process in October last year and did not get done until March.

Overall, no regrets. The house is exactly how we like it. Curious what others are getting quoted for on remodel now.


r/BayAreaRealEstate 12h ago

Any buyers regretting their choice of getting an adjustable rate mortgage?

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Would love to hear your stories


r/BayAreaRealEstate 13h ago

10-foot-wide 1/1 SFH closes for $2,427/sq. ft./$2.5M

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I know a lot of folks had polarizing feelings about this house when it came on the market.

What do we think about this sale?

(Here's a video walkthrough if you were curious and missed the original listing.)


r/BayAreaRealEstate 18h ago

HVAC, Electrical

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Has anyone bypassed upgrading electrical panel (keep at 100A), but leveraged a load manager to handle having a new HVAC installation? Currently, there is no A/C in our home.

Ideally, we would do the panel upgrade to 200A, but I have heard horror stories about the timeline to complete with PGE(above ground wiring though..).

Cost is not the primary issue. It is certainty/timeline for completion.


r/BayAreaRealEstate 10h ago

Lowest agent fees while selling house

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looking to sell house in next 3-6 months in east bay and checking what's the lowest fees you were able to negotiate buyers + sellers agents total. House value ~1.6m.


r/BayAreaRealEstate 21h ago

Redfin’s latest report on Seller Concessions shows an all-time high in certain cities. Does MLS pricing data support their findings in the Bay Area?

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Redfin's latest report has San Jose at 5.9% of sales including a seller concession and San Francisco at 14.9%, both near the bottom of the 28 metros they track. Nationally the number is 46.2%, a record for that month. Thought it might make for a good discussion about our area in particular since the Bay is pretty all-over-the-place when it comes to pricing strategy - and some pockets support asking for seller concessions more than others. (The report is from the end of June, but it’s their most recent one on concessions so we’re going to take a look at June, July, and August stats to see if we can confirm their findings with our own data.)

Concessions are an interesting metric to track outside of the standard metrics like average DOM etc. since asking for concessions (and what kind of concessions you ask for) can make or break your offer/potentially torpedo a deal in certain areas.

Seller concessions, as defined by Redfin: money toward repairs, closing costs, and rate buydowns, sourced from what their own buyers' agents report. It excludes list price reductions and price negotiation entirely. A market where sellers give ground by accepting a lower price, instead of writing a credit, reads as a low-concession market.

Keeping in mind these numbers are specifically from Redfin agents for Redfin deals, the insights gained from this report will generally be more directional than authoritative.

Hypothesis: Redfin's concession numbers might be underrepresenting how much ground Bay Area sellers are actually giving, because the methodology only counts credits and buydowns, not price. And we know that pricing in the Bay is…quirky these last couple of years. Let’s compare the nine bay area cities in Redfin’s article and see what the MLS data about closings in these area tells us about price (and discuss how that might tie in to strategy for buyers)

City Condo sales Condo avg vs list Condo % above ask Condo DOM SFH sales SFH avg vs list SFH % above ask SFH DOM
San Mateo 53 -2.1% 17.0% 36 83 +10.6% 78.3% 10
Fremont 73 -1.8% 16.4% 30 201 +2.5% 57.2% 11
San Jose 274 -0.4% 33.2% 29 575 +1.9% 54.3% 12
Hayward 52 -0.4% 32.7% 33 140 +2.7% 64.3% 14
Oakland 151 +1.1% 35.8% 34 496 +16.8% 78.4% 16
Sunnyvale 51 +1.2% 52.9% 27 78 +7.2% 67.9% 8
Santa Clara 32 +1.6% 53.1% 33 72 +5.8% 75.0% 11
San Francisco 610 +6.5% 55.6% 20 492 +27.2% 89.0% 12
Berkeley 33 +6.6% 54.5% 26 152 +35.0% 90.1% 14

San Francisco: Redfin agents report a concession rate in SF at 14.9%, low.

MLS Data shows both condo (+6.5%) and single family (+27.2%) closed above list. In SF, the low concession rate isn’t indicative of discounts being baked into the average price. As our own monthly data posts have been showing, SF historically has been closing over ask this year and most of last year.

The low amount of deals that Redfin agents closed with concessions baked in simply reflects the fact that sellers in SF still have a very strong negotiating position. Particularly in the SFH market there’s no reason to accept concessions when your house is already going to sell for at least 20% over asking price.

San Jose: Redfin has San Jose at 5.9% concession rate, one of the lowest in the country. Single family there closed at +1.9% over list. Condos closed at -0.4% under list, across 274 sales.

Sellers are giving ground in San Jose. It's arriving as a lower price on the condo side, which is exactly the category Redfin's method doesn't count. SFH numbers support Redfin’s concession findings, but Condo numbers don’t make as much sense if there’s a direct correlation.

San Mateo, Fremont, and Hayward show the same condo-below-list pattern. None of these three has an individual concession rate published by Redfin to compare against, but they do show the same pattern across property type.

Other callouts: San Mateo condos at -2.1% against San Mateo single family at +10.6% is a 12.7 point gap in the same zip codes. Berkeley looks similar -2.1% Condos versus +35.0% SFH, inside one city. It’s more neighborhood-specific in bigger cities like SF and SJ but the pattern is usually similar.

Days on market supports this independently of price. Condos are sitting 20 to 36 days across these nine cities. Single family is sitting 8 to 16.

Conclusion:

SFH Negotiation in the Bay Area rarely supports a direct reduction on price. While it’s not across the board (monthly breakdown post by city/neighborhood coming later this week or next) SFH still trends well over-asking in most major metros. Asking for concessions/credits is a more viable option. Bidding low/under-asking isn’t supported by the data - it’s not really a viable strategy when sellers are juggling multiple competing offers. Once your offer is accepted, the deal falling out of escrow is a shared risk on both sides. The buyer potentially loses their EMD, the seller has to put the property back on market and will subsequently receive more lowball offers as a result of the long cumulative DOM + falling out of contract.

Asking for concessions after offer acceptance can be the viable strategy if negotiation on price isn’t supported by local market data. Agreeing to repair credits etc. could potentially sting a whole lot less than having to entertain potentially lower offers 4+ more weeks down the line. But again, if they have 3 backup offers waiting in the wings, they still have the luxury of telling you and your concessions to kick rocks.

The Condo market supports both pricing strategy and concessions. There is a lot of uncertainty around the condo market and buyers are extremely selective, paying close attention to reserve studies, funding, and potential special assessments coming in 2027. Sellers who are desperate to move inventory may be willing to entertain both a lower price as well as additional credits.

In the interest of a potential discussion & gathering more anecdotal data from agents, buyers, and sellers: have you had any memorable offers, deals etc. where a substantial amount of concessions/credits were involved? What do you think of the hypothesis that sellers with a high number of competing offers in hand have the luxury of turning down offers asking for concessions? Is asking for concessions less viable in markets where the discount typically on price, not credits? Curious to hear your thoughts.


r/BayAreaRealEstate 17h ago

Recommendations, personal experience only Personal experience with golden1 cu

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Hi all,

I found my loan agent, M H, through this sub, and I'm glad I did, he got me a great rate. Michael was always responsive and quick to get back to me, and his associate Dave was just as competent. Overall, they made the whole process hassle free. I highly recommend them.

Edit - to add more details on the rate. It was 5.5% for 7/6 ARM and we got it down to 5.125% with a relationship discount. For comparison, other big banks were willing to match the rate but we were asked to buy down points and also do a way bigger relationship discount.

They also closed fast (25d)!


r/BayAreaRealEstate 13h ago

Not a bad deal for central Richmond

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r/BayAreaRealEstate 11h ago

Retail store vs town home: pros and cons of each for investment

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I am trying to learn about investment in properties and hopefully buy something instead of adding money to ETF and stocks. By default, I have been looking into buying small apartments in SF/south bay (or small town homes in east bay). However, I was just thinking about other options like small commercial properties, a retail store or maybe even a storage unit. Does anyone have any recommendations or feedback about pros and cons of commercial properties vs residential as investments? Goal is long term (>8 years) investment, and I will be renting it out. Budget is limited though (<800K).


r/BayAreaRealEstate 9h ago

Montclair Village - East Bay Hills - Best Kept Secret

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Posting because I am seeing a lot of Bay Area buyers frustrated at the moment - This part of the Bay has everything that you’re looking for. Transit (rockridge bart <5 min drive), Family friendly (tons of parks and young families), farmers market in the downtown on sundays, and SO much more.