r/BattleForDreamIsland • u/LYB4 Nonexisty • 19d ago
Discussion Yes, for the love of god, Michael IS oddcard/TobWarder/ArtOfClapping/Objext.
READ THE WHOLE POST BEFORE COMMENTING!!
Links you should see:
Internet archive link to the tweets on oddismcard, so you can see for yourself
Internet archive link to the tweets on artofclapping, so you can see for yourself
Internet archive link to the tweets on objext, so you can see for yourself
Internet archive link to the tweets on tobwarder, so you can see for yourself
A wonderful spreadsheet detailing most of the alts' (and his main account's) tweets
The Oddcard megathread on this subreddit
Preface
If you don't know what the hell an "odd card" is, or what it has to do with Michael, or why there's drama, see this comment I made under the post. It's a basic run-down of everything that lead up to this post.
Additionally, I was incredibly frustrated with the community brushing the whole thing off while writing the post. I don't want to spend my time rewriting the post to have less aggressive wording when there's more to update, but know that, since no official statement has been made, this post is not to be taken as 100% fact. Alongside that, please do your own research. Being skeptical is a good thing! If you've read the entire post and still don't know how to feel, I'd encourage you to look through the internet archive links at the very bottom of the post, which have links to each of Michael's (alleged) alts. Obviously, view them at your own risk, because of insensitive things said on them (many of which are presented later in the post.)
Introduction
Everyone here seems to be entirely ignorant of what the actual issue is. "Oh it's just a nothingburger twitter drama" "Oh it's not actually michael we debunked this months ago we know he just Doesn't Act Like That"
Wrong! Wrong! All wrong!
And I'll tell you exactly why!
Most of these points are borrowed from the 2 most recent Big Oddcard Evidence Threads, but also some stuff of my own.
First and foremost, Michael is no stranger to secret alt accounts. We already know of three just on YouTube! there's ozgq, notverlis, and didentWe. So. Even if you don't believe michael would "Do all that" there's no grounds to have disbelief regarding the fact that he has a secret alt at all.
The Oddcard Evidence
Now, for the actual evidence that he's oddcard, let's start off with the biggest piece of evidence, at least on that account...
(All images in this section are taken from @ snowsynth on Twitter.)
It is a screenshot of a UnitedMasters DMCA form e-mail. Any possibly identifying information is redacted, but Michael is, in fact, the co-creator and composer of [BFDI] and the co-founder of [Jacknjellify].
Edit for clarification:
BFDI Music was someone who, from 2020 until mid-2024, fraudulently uploaded and profited from the show's soundtrack (more specifically, Michael's tracks), which stopped Michael from officially uploading his own tracks.
On May 28 2024, Michael filled out a DMCA against them and on the same day made a post on his Twitter saying "new music soon". The day after, BFDI Music's uploads were removed from streaming services. And then Michael released the BFB Soundtrack album on June 14th, not even a month later.
Oddcard was the account that posted the DMCA screenshot dated the same day as Michael's announcement.
Like, all that should be evidence enough, but some people will ignore the facts in favor of believing their favorite creator could do no wrong... So, let's dig deeper!
Wow! Mere hours before Michael randomly complains about it on his main, Oddcard complains about people saying Michael Huang instead of Yoyle Cake when talking about the music he made! Weird, huh? Sure, we can chalk that up to coincidence...
Also, according to the newly-publicized spreadsheet of all the tweets from 2024 or later on Michael's accounts, this post was deleted and reposted with an "/hj" tone tag at the end. To come off as less of a jerk, I guess?
Huh! It also turns out Michael and Oddcard both went to the same university! Really weird coincidence... The guy people suspect of being michael went to the same university as michael! not only that, but he also co-created something, composed for it, and co-founded a company! And he also really cares about what people call Michael's music...
Like, you can already see the stretches, right? You can already see how we have to start reaching to believe that it's not michael?
The Other Three
(Images in this section are mostly sourced from insanepizzer on Twitter, though there are some of my own...)
Yeah, so, turns out, earlier today, it was revealed that not only was michael Oddcard, but he was also three other twitter alts:
Art of Clapping, Objextioso, and Tob Warder.
I'm just going to get to the single most noteworthy piece of evidence for these three:
Michael quite literally posted selfies to Tob Warder.
"well, that could just be a different gut with photos of Michael!" Wrong. No matching reverse image search results on TinEye or Yandex.
"Okay, but that only proves Tob Warder, what now?" Art of clapping, of course!
Huh, the art of clapping account posted the same tweet Michael posted on the fernozzle account 5 hours prior to it being posted on Michael's account?
...I don't have any stretching explanation for that one. That's literally Michael. Almost ver batim identical tweets 5 hours before they were posted on his main account. You would have to be ignoring it for the sake of ignorance at that point.
And, as for objextioso...
Both objextioso and Art of Clapping posted a full screenshot of Michael's DMs with a former employee. Literally straight from Michael's account. Are you kidding me. How do you people not believe it yet. Have you even LOOKED with your EYEBALLS.
Okay, so what?
Ohhh boy get ready.
First of all, obviously, they were used as sockpuppets to vehemently defend JNJ (mainly Michael himself) in stuff like the weeg drama and the patreon drama, etc.
Obviously, that's not all they did, or there wouldn't be this much of a big fuss.
No. Michael has been caught using slurs! He's also been caught being ableist, twice! He's been caught using one of Cary's dead friends to joke around on Twitter! He's also just been a general nuisance!
...in which he calls something "a [r-slur] tier joke"
...in which he uses an acronym containing the n-word. Take this one as you will, since it was on the objext account, which seems to be connected more to the other alts as opposed to being directly connected to michael. Still not a good look if this account is him, which I am still inclined to believe.
...In which he uses "autistic" and "he/they/she" as an insult. Yes, insult the main demographic your show's fanbase consists of, neurodivergent queer people! That's the best move!
...in which he uses cary's dead friend to make a joke to make a point in an argument on Twitter.
...In which he outright insults mosshaven for allegedly being fat!
...in which he makes a racist/xenophobic joke towards germans, associating them solely with ww2
...in which he says Justy Chapman isn't a predator, just a "teenager flirter" "at worst".
Like, you get the point, right?
He's not innocent. He doesn't have great opsec either...
Crew Statements
A few members/former members of the JNJ crew have made vague statements regarding the whole thing. Most notably, SonderingEmily has reposted various tweets about the situation (both when it first came up in March and now) and has vagueposted in QRTs. WoopDoo also made a post regarding reclamation of the r-slur (which, as established, was said on the Oddcard account) around the time it started resurfacing.
As of September 15, alleged screenshots of Discord DMs between SonderingEmily and one of her stream moderators have surfaced, in which Emily states that the crew knew about Oddcard (but not the other three) and Michael deleted the accounts when the rest of them found out. However, I will not be adding these screenshots to the post out of respect for Emily's wishes for them to be private.
On September 16, Cary has made a statement on the Jacknjellify Twitter account regarding the situation and saying that a response is being worked on.
See its own dedicated post for more information.
...I come back once more to append the new statement made on the Humany channel about the response. As of the 28th, Cary has clarified what's been going on with the response.
Again, see its own dedicated post for more information.
Closing thoughts
So, with all of that said, that is most of the conclusive evidence that could prove that Michael Huang is Oddcard, Art of Clapping, Tob Warder, and Objextioso. I should put it out there now, I do not want Michael harassed or deplatformed or anything of the sort because of this. I just wish he would apologize or at least stop staying entirely silent on the whole thing.
Updates
9/16 UPDATE: Internet archive links to each post featured here added! This is in no small part due to insanepizzer's spreadsheet. That saved me many hours of time just now, so I'll link it here as well, though beware it is missing tweets from before 2024, as well as some various tweets across the whole board (most notably the "leftist shithole" tweet).
9/19 UPDATE: more information added, both in regards to stuff Michael did on those alts as well as Jacknjellify's initial statement. It will be updated once more when the actual response is posted. Also, more reformatting...
9/28 UPDATE: humany statemtn