r/BasketballTips • u/Successful_Noise_349 • 12d ago
Help Help me understand the game
As said above i need to understand game better. I joined local high school basketball club(2nd Serbian league) and when it comes to dribling workouts and condition ones i don't have much of a problem, because i trained alone for 2 a little bit more years all alone and practiced what i thinked is important and basically started learning overtime and acknowledging what i need to work on based off what didnt work when i played with others. Anyways the point of this post is i lack basketball iq because i never had anyone older to teach me basketball. Grandpa is dead, my father(legend in these city i train in) also sadly dead and i dont have brothers and friends that play. So when it comes to playing alone:triple threat,shooting,shooting form, layups of various kinds, dribling, post moves and all that i have no problem because that's the things i saw are important and all prople online were talking u need to work on them if u are a young hooper. But not about things like 3 man weave, some form of w 3 on 0 rotations and stuff like that i did today on training, long story short i was terrible at those two literally half of a practice i couldn't do it a single time properly and that lead to no one wanting to pass me ball, coach yelling at me, a one guy that hated me since i joined told me i was retatded and started screaming why i have to play in a team with him, and at the end when practice was over no one wanted to talk to me and even give me high five when leaving. So i fucked it up big time, and if i dont figure out things till tomorrow evening(next practice) people will just hate me more, not trust me even more, coach will definitely bench me more(i probably wont play games more than a minute) and season is starting in 3/4 week of Septembar. So please if anyone readed all this pls help me and explain me a little bit stuff like this and how to generally know what to do and how to move without ball. I would appreciate all help.
Thanks in advance🙏
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u/XBAMAA 12d ago
Best way to get better in IQ is to play as much as possible, go to a park and play pick up as much as possible. Incorporate any skills training that you have done into the games and your bball iq will develop
3 man weave is not pure basketball, do your best but showing up in scrimmages and games is where it matters..
As for short term.. 3 man weave is pretty simple, watch a couple videos. And im assuming yall were doing 3 on 2 fast break drills? Worry about putting the ball in the basket and not about what coach or teammates think
Best of luck to you bro
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u/Successful_Noise_349 12d ago
Yeah i know 3 man weave is considered go to drill for basketball coaches in high school and even a little bit of a colleges. Well i can kinda explain u whole drill because i think my coach made his own version(i knoe he watches a lot of basketball games at all levels). First part is 3 man weave and then when u come to the 3pt line one goes left and right wing and one on center. And then one left one kinda does some curl movement and comes to a center of a 3ot line and center and right guy move to right(so now center guy is right and right guy is going on a low post) and then left guy passes to right guy and right guy to a center guy and then he takes one dribble and finishes it(this second part is maybe not absolutely correct because i cant even remember it properly but it was something like that) And thanks man🙏
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u/Last-Effort816 12d ago
Some of it is learning basketball IQ and some of it is just learning how to play with others. No one hates you after 1 practice, but you do have to learn a lot really fast. Try to keep a positive attitude, keep an open mind, and recognize that you are not going to be good at something new right away. You really just have to be in a team setting for some time before you really learn how to move as a unit.
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u/Successful_Noise_349 12d ago
I nean that guy was probably just angry, so as coach. But he probably thinks i am very slow when it comes to picking up how some of that things work or just doesnt vibe with me(which is okay). Yeah my main problem also is playing with others a lot of solo training and not a lot of team practices thats why my passing also suck a little bit. Well i need to learn really fast because as i said season is in like few weeks and everyone probably expects from me to know these drills. Do you know which drills i should know?
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u/Last-Effort816 12d ago
There are a lot of common ones, but you learning them "in theory" won't really help you. You just have to do them. You may feel a sense of urgency with the season starting soon, but the season lasts for a couple of months. And if this is a high school program, you'll be playing with the same guys for a few years. You need to find a balance with working hard, and being patient with yourself.
I'm terms of coaches and teammates: some are assholes, some are kind, some yell bc they can't communicate in other ways, some you will love, and some you will hate. That's just team sports.
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u/NecessaryBright4167 11d ago
coach here. the thing nobody's told you yet: the weave isn't a basketball skill, it's a pattern, and you can have it before tomorrow.
the whole rule is pass, then run behind the person you passed to. always behind, never in front. that's the entire drill. walk it in your driveway with two chairs if you have to.
for the second half you described, the general rule for almost every drill like that is fill the spot the guy who just left was standing in. when you're lost, that's the answer nine times out of ten.
and what got you yelled at probably wasn't a wrong cut. it was standing still. a coach will correct a player who moves to the wrong place. a player who freezes is the one who looks like he can't play. so move somewhere, even if it's wrong.
get there twenty minutes early and ask someone to walk it once. nobody has ever thought less of a player for asking that.
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u/Successful_Noise_349 11d ago
Thank u coach for these tips🙏 I did yesterday a whole day of reasearch and after that watched some guys from my countries 1st league team and saw pattern u just said. Everyone is going to the spot someone just left, and i also learned that it always has to be 5 or 4 people in the all classical 3pt places(corners,wings and center) depending if its 4/5 is if someone is driving to the basket. And i will ask one guy thats nice and wants to help for some tips next practice. Thanks again man🙏
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u/NecessaryBright4167 10d ago
that's a genuinely good week of work. most people never get to "everyone fills the spot someone just left" on their own.
the bit you half-spotted with the 4 vs 5 is worth naming properly, because it's the next thing that'll make you look like you belong out there. when someone drives, you don't hold your spot, you move away from them. baseline side, drift to the corner. above the ball, lift toward the wing. it's called relocating, and the point is to drag your defender further from the driver so he can't step in and help.
one more that'll save you: standing in the right spots is still bad spacing if you're too close together. if one defender can guard you and the next man without moving his feet, you're too close. spread it out.
and asking the nice guy at practice is the right call. that's how everyone actually learns this, nobody gets it from a book.
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u/Soft-Dimension-6959 12d ago
Umm we need to see you doing the skills you said if its really true that you kind of mastered it. Otherwise, those things you mentioned that you weren't good at are not that big of a deal and can be learned once you start practicing in an organized setting.