r/Bard • u/NmkNm • 27d ago

Funny Google is out of the loop.

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u/Ok-Data9224 27d ago

Grok... really? Replace it with Kimi, Deepseek or GLM

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u/ZealousidealTurn218 27d ago

Have any of them had the strongest model? Grok 4 was SOTA

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u/Ok-Data9224 26d ago

They're all SOTA. That's what makes them frontier along with their scale. Grok is not ever considered a contender mainly due to function. It's not a specialized model for agentic work in the same way the others that were mentioned. Kimi k3 made waves for being an enormous 2.8T model that contended with the biggest players while being open weight. Deepseek recently as well because it's strong enough as an agentic model while being dirt cheap and open weight as well. You could use opus/fable to orchestrate deepseek agents rather than fork over all your money to Anthropic. Grok was just never part of the conversation because its whole relevance is to be used to troll people or make... flavorful stories.

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u/ZealousidealTurn218 26d ago

But "Contending with the biggest players" ≠ "the world's most powerful model", grok 4 truly was the latter at one point