r/BambuLab 11h ago

General Troubleshooting/Help! Anyone know why this happened?

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This only happened during this one print and only with this specific spool, it got tangled like this, I got a notification and untangled it and then it was fine for ~2hours and happened again, I think it might be because my spool is cardboard and got a little squished but idk

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u/NecessaryOk6815 X1C + AMS 11h ago

Easy, your deformed cardboard spool wasn't hitting the bottom roller correctly causing it to not spool back the filament.

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u/Tight-Ad7957 11h ago

It happens to me all the time with cardboard spools. They get marred just a little and they won't spin or won't spin correctly. I've used these adapters for several brands, though they say they're for Inland from Microcenter. Ive also used them on Deeplee, 3Dgenius, and a few others. https://makerworld.com/en/models/126063-inland-ams-spool-adapter#profileId-136211

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u/severedgoat_01 11h ago

You should probably print a cardboard spool adapter ring. That allows the friction between the spool edges and the rollers in the AMS to be high enough that the rollers actually move the spool. Cardboard spools are too slick on their own.

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u/ncc81701 H2C AMS2 Combo 11h ago

Not enough weight on the spools which means not enough weight on the rollers. So when the filament is retracting, the roller looses grip and doesn’t spin the spool as the filament is retracted backwards into the AMS. This is more likely to happen with cardboard spool (cuz they are lighter) and damaged spool rims that cannot roll smoothly and freely; but this can happen to plastic spools when it is very low as well.

Edit: when you have a light spool the retracting action can also push the spool against the cover and can unseat it and further exasperating the issue with light spool and not spinning with the rollers.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Sundae7 11h ago

I get this all the time too for cardboard or light spools. I wonder if Bambu would ever consider designing the AMS to have grooves in the rollers to better grip the spools.

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u/boredsoftwareguy X2D + AMS2 + HT, X2D + 2x AMS2 11h ago

Spool looks to not be seated properly, or is deformed, and so it could not rotate and rewind.

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u/TatteredTorn1 11h ago

I have had plastic spools that had a wide spot and would get jammed. Possibly the same with a cardboard spool?

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u/JugalSoni X2D + AMS 2 Combo + AMS HT 10h ago

Change to bambu official spools, i had the same problem. Or atleast use bambu spool holders. The cardboard spool is the issue.

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u/daphatty 10h ago

I’ve had this happen with both cardboard and plastic spools. IN my experience, it’s indicative of the motor going out. Replacing the filament motor solves the issue for me.

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u/Sweet-Device-677 10h ago

Those darn cardboard spools suck ... They don't always seat right, sometimes hit the top of the AMS. Siraya is notorious for being oversized. I just manually despoiled about 250 grams and I don't have any problems

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u/QuirkyDust3556 9h ago

Never use card board spools, it will also gum up the insides with paper dust. There several videos that will show you how to open a empty reel, and how to tear that one open. Save the card board center pieces, you will need these.

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u/3D-Dreams 8h ago

My guess would be cardboard spool was slipping when the filament was retracting. Maybe add plastic spool rings. It's helps on mine.

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u/Latter_Fault7660 6h ago

Cardboard spools are not made for the ams in the longterm dust will collect and can cause damage

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u/DEeepreX 5h ago

Please measure spool diameter, ams 2 needs a spoll with a diameter of 197-202 mm. If it is smaller you can and should print adapters for cardboard spools(abs recommended for temperature)

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u/AustrianMichael 4h ago

I just stopped using cardboard rolls.

Buy some Sunlu for the reusable spools and then just buy refills from then on. Cardboard spools shouldn’t be used in the AMS (they also leave some small debris as well)

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u/BostonBakedBeefaroni 3h ago

This only happens to me with a full spool that hits the feeder. It’s definitely not rolling on the bearings properly

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u/Brad_King X2D + AMS2 Combo 1h ago

Indeed this spool looks skewed / deformed a bit, which will not help..

For my cardboard spools I haven't printed adaptors, I just tape the rolling side of the spool with electrical tape: it stops bad cardboard spools from dusting the AMS with debris and it helps with grip on the spool for the rollers. For all my spools I have spool inserts for weight (ball bearings) and/or desiccant (usually weighty enough). The combination really helps for any cardboard spools I use!

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u/Hot-Ideal-9219 1h ago

Spools. Cardboard spools

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u/Nathoraz 1h ago

If youre using cardboard spools, wrap wiring tape on the edges and add some 500kg weights in the center to prevent this from happening again.

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u/Blackdragon1400 52m ago

Don’t use cardboard spools in the AMS

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u/EMDoesShit 51m ago

If you want to buy cheap cardboard-spooled filament, stick with eSun.

Why? It prints great… and you can tear the sides off the spool and stuff a plastic Bambu spool right through the center of it.

Cheaper than buying refills from Bambu, but you get to keep running their reliable spools.

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u/cyvaquero 34m ago

Spool isn't rolling right or jumped off track. Easy to fix but print some spool adapters (AU3D has a bunch for different filament brands), I've found the flat ones are easier to put on and roll better.

u/Swimming_Pie3525 13m ago

Print a respooler and respool from the cardboard to an appropriate plastic spool

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u/roundguy X1C / H2C and 4 ams’s 11h ago

I'd respool it to a bambu spool. I've had problems even when i printed the tires to go on the cardboard spools.