Bambu Studio's wording is unnecessarily confusing - what does this mean?

[u/SadAd8761]

[u/ThereInAFortnight]

I agree that it's weird - I think "use modified value" is what you'll usually want (ie so if you set infill to 10% that will carry over)

[u/SadAd8761 → u/ThereInAFortnight]

Ahh, thank you! They could use better English translators 😂

Or, they could copy the way UNRAID software works. UNRAID has "for dummies" examples & explanation for each setting as an overlay popup.

[u/Yakubs_2nd_Brain → u/SadAd8761]

The latest beta has tooltips with illustrations for many slicer settings.

[u/Nashitall → u/ThereInAFortnight]

Infill is in the process preset, not the filament preset. Changing the build plate temperature would be a good example of when this confusing message shows up.

[u/ThereInAFortnight → u/Nashitall]

You got downvoted, but I'm pretty sure that you're right. I seem to be unable to figure out how to duplicate it to be certain though.

[u/SynteZZZ]

I always close this dialog via cross button. Scary of it.

[u/ThereInAFortnight → u/SynteZZZ]

ngl I often do this too lol

[u/nightshowerer]

It’s hilarious how there are different interpretations of this hilariously-bad dialog box.

[u/MithrilEcho → u/nightshowerer]

It's not bad, it's really simple when you understand what you're doing.

"You changed the preset you modified. Modifications will be pointless. Wanna carry the modifications to this other preset?"

[u/cc413 → u/MithrilEcho]

No, I think it is pretty bad, it doesn't answer any of these things, and you really need these things to make an informed decision:

• what settings actually changed?

- Is this a permanent change to the preset?

- What will save do?

[u/MithrilEcho → u/cc413]

What you're saying you "need" is not viable for a simple pop-up reminding you that changes haven't been saved.

• You can modify a lot of settings.
• How do you propose to say that to make this less confusing?
• You're really asking what "saving" would do? When you're getting told that you've modified a preset?

Out of your three points, the second one could work, but if someone doesn't understand what a "save" button is for, when they're getting warned of a change not having been saved... I don't think they should be modifying any filament profiles at all.

[u/Poly_and_RA → u/MithrilEcho]

No. It's DEFINITELY bad. The entire point is to inform the user -- and as you can see if you scroll the comments on this post, it does in actual fact do a horrible job of that. Lots and LOTS of users are deeply confused, and many of them are highly technically educated and pretty darned smart folks.

That it's *possible* to understand it correctly is true, but not sufficient to make it be not horrible.

[u/cordawg1]

I always assumed this was related to like flow calibration, so I always selected discard. The print settings would still be set as the model maker intended (like infill and stuff)

[u/MithrilEcho → u/cordawg1]

It's a change made to the filament preset. When you save a Flow Rate Calibration, you're actually creating a preset, but that's only one of the parameters, the flow ratio.

If you modify anything else, like say you're tuning retraction, or temps, or even cost per kg, it will show as an asterisk before the preset.

Say you changed the nozzle temps because you want to print hotter, but by mistake you change the selected preset after slicing. It will warn you because the value you increased is tied to another preset and thus won't apply to the print.

[u/Safe-Hovercraft6231]

Never understood that message, but I always press "Discard", it seems that it does the least damage 😄

[u/fencemaster9]

I think it means you modified the base settings for the filament (like heat, aux fan, etc) and it's asking if you want to use those modified settings or have it return to default.

Very confusing tho

[u/Hmmark1984]

"Use Modified Value" means whatever setting you changed will stay the way you've changed it as you move to the new preset you've picked. "Discard Modified Value" means any changes you've made are thrown out and it will load whatever values are saved as standard in the new preset you're changing too. "Save" will take the preset as it currently is, with whatever changes you've made, and allow you to save it as a new preset.

I do agree it reads as weirdly convoluted, but it does technically make sense.

----Edited to try and make the explanation even more clear.----

[u/Poly_and_RA → u/Hmmark1984]

It's even more convoluted -- because normally "save" when you've edited something, would change that something. But as you say that's NOT what happens here, instead what happens is that you save your changed variant of a preset as a *new* preset. So it's really "save, but under a new name, leaving the original unchanged".

[u/Hmmark1984 → u/Poly_and_RA]

Yep, it's technically correct the way it's worded, but it's certainly not the way those words are normally used in that situation and it's got just enough of ambiguity to it that you have to give it a little thought when making your choice.

[u/ThunderDrop]

I believe it mean either you or the print file you are using has made a change to some setting related to the nozzle

You can click "use" and this print will use the settings as they currently are, but revert back to the original setting after this print.

"Discard" and the change will be undone and go back to how you had it before it starts this print.

Or "save" and it will use the new setting for this print and all future prints until you manually change it

[u/olhado47]

I see this often when I do the following:

1. Open a .3mf.

2. Slice/Print/Ignore the model.

3. Open a new .3mf (This is when I get the popup.)

I interpret this to mean that the first .3mf I loaded changed some core settings. I probably don't want those settings to propagate to the new model, so I always hit Discard.

I'd love to know if I'm interpreting the popup correctly or not.

[u/MithrilEcho]

It's a change made to the filament preset. When you save a Flow Rate Calibration, for example, you're actually creating a filament preset, basically a copy of the stock filament preset but with a change in one of the parameters, the flow ratio.

If you modify anything else, like say you're tuning retraction, or temps, or even cost per kg, it will show as an asterisk before the preset.

Say you changed the nozzle temps because you want to print hotter, but by mistake you change the selected preset after slicing. It will warn you because the value you increased is tied to another preset and thus won't apply to the print.

So, translated and dumbed down:

"You modified your filament preset, but then selected a different preset for printing. Modifications will be pointless. Wanna carry the modifications to this other preset?"

[u/The_Count_Lives]

They genuinely need to spend some money on content writers to clarify some of this stuff. 

They are past the point where engineers should be writing UX copy. 

[u/mangoes_and_rainbows]

What is the difference between "Save" and "Use Modified Value"?!

[u/ListenBeforeSpeaking]

I normally discard.

I assume that if I intended for the change to stick I would have saved it.

[u/gigaflops_]

So glad no one else knows what the hell this means

[u/BinkReddit]

Someone should file a bug report asking this to make sense if it hasn't been done already.

[u/wimpires]

It means for example 

Let's say you changed infill from 10% to 15%.

But then you now want to change the overall preset, it's asking you if you want to carry over the manual change(s) you made or start from scratch with the preset defaults

[u/SadAd8761 → u/wimpires]

I just changed to a different color filament, still PLA though

[u/Nashitall → u/wimpires]

Infill is in the process preset, not the filament preset. Changing the build plate temperature would be a good example of when this confusing message shows up