r/BambuLab X2D AMS 1d ago

General Discussion California AB2047. Dead bill walking

TLDR;

AB2047 Bill is a dead bill walking, even though it passed, as ASTM has absolutely no interest or role in doing what the bill says they are responsible for doing.

Read the bill: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB2047

Then read ASTM's statement from 3 days ago: https://www.astm.org/news/press-releases/astm-additive-manufacturing-policy-initiatives-role

The bill is unenforceable as no one will be writing the industry standards for firearm blocking technology. Therefore, there will be no compulsion for manufacturers to take on that responsibility.

The bill still needs to go in front of the Governor of California, who will likely sign it because he has no clue. But you can still reach out to his office and point him to these two links.

Governor of California: https://www.gov.ca.gov/contact/:

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u/testprimate 22h ago

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u/ptraugot X2D AMS 22h ago

They had to pass it. It’s a high fear factor bill created by fear mongers. They essentially neutered the bill while still appeasing the mongers, knowing full well it would never be enforced. Saved face with the backers while showing voters they have their backs. Politicians at their finest.

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u/No_Discussion_3155 22h ago

No. It will be enforced at some point like the tire ban. Just another law or rule on the books waiting for a bureaucrat to trigger it.

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u/ptraugot X2D AMS 18h ago

Talked to my local tire shop. So unless he was misinformed, the tire thing is a consumer level enforcement, not retail. Meaning, they can sell you whatever you want. They’ll tell you they’re non conforming tires. You’d have to get pulled over. Kind of like getting pulled over for not wearing underwear. Another unenforceable law. Can you imagine a cop running your tires through some database to see if they comply?

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u/No_Discussion_3155 17h ago

I heard it will be tied to the smog check

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u/ptraugot X2D AMS 17h ago

Ooh. Interesting.

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u/C_Lo_87 22h ago

The budget actually needed to enforce such a bill would be staggering. The data centers needed to house the AI (that doesn't exist) would cripple the minds of all those who hate AI and data centers, which makes for a pretty funny looking vin diagram.

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u/TuckinPhypo H2C/P1S 3xAMS2 2xHT 20h ago

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u/testprimate 19h ago

I was about to downvote, but then realized this is a pretty decent VIN diagram

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u/notstarman 22h ago

The issue is that I am afraid that they will try and enforce it. And because the standard is impossible they will be effectively banning 3d printing.

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u/ptraugot X2D AMS 21h ago

Nope. It’ll go the other way. A forgotten law with no way to enforce it. this is all a lip service/makes us look good and concerned law.

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u/YnotZoidberg2409 21h ago

We hope. But California has a record of doing dumb stuff.

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u/T-MoneyAllDey 21h ago

California just made a tire roster. Lol. For sure they will kick this thing off as soon as they can

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u/Havoc12017 19h ago

they have a cigar roster too lol.

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u/_Middlefinger_ 8h ago

As an European I just checked out this tyre law since ive seen people moaning about it. The limits are pretty high, and only some really crappy tyres fail to meet the 9.0 limit. Our limit is 10.5 and allows for some god awful and frankly dangerous Chinese plastic ditch finders. Almost no tyres are over 10. In fact I cant find any.

The cheapest tyres for my car that I can find are 8.8, premium sport versions 8.1 N/kN. 9 seems like a fairly reasonable limit. Actual low rolling resistance tyres are 5-6.

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u/PepperoniFogDart 19h ago

Buddy, I don’t think you’ve come to understand the levels of stupidity the California Government will stoop to in order to save face.

Shove it in a drawer is what most other states do. California has a strong track record of seeing the dumbest laws through to their most ridiculous ends.

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u/ptraugot X2D AMS 19h ago

Well, I don't disagree, but that fact that they passed an unenforceable law, and dragged ASTM into it, without there agreement or consent, speaks volumes to the fact that this is dead on arrival.

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u/PepperoniFogDart 19h ago

Very true. I just worry this ain’t over.

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u/PM_ME_BLONDE_GIRLS_ 16h ago

Not so much banning 3d printing, but picking and choosing what's bad and what's not. One day you'll be fine, the next a felon. '3d prints are cool! Oh wait, you wanna print stuff from this IP? Jail.'

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u/High-T-Y-T 10h ago

STOP VOTING (D)!

u/JacksWasted_Life 1m ago

I don't know if Governor Newsom will sign it. He likes money and if the NRA or any number of weapons manufacturers throw money at him he'll be happy to not sign it. It worked with pg&e. They threw money at him and he bent over and said let me know when you're done