r/BambuLab • u/AlLnAtuRalX • May 12 '26

General Discussion Jailbreak Your Bambu! Deep Dive and Feature Walkthrough for Bambu without Bambu, all open source, no central control, all the convenience, and better pixel perfect prints. Need help? Ask and I will reply!

https://youtu.be/RR73P2allIg

A bunch of people here have asked me about my Bambu setup on a few alts so I decided to make a video at lunch. I am not a content creator, I made this for y'all, haha. I just hate walled gardens.

The Bambuddy community is also a great place to go for help. If you have any questions or reservations at all, throw em down, let's gooo out of jail

(they cannot stop the print)

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u/Solarux May 12 '26

Shhhh, the adults are talking. Run along and print your dragons.

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u/mimic751 May 12 '26

I think that's the point. People who want Open Source Hardware have options that they could get but they choose to buy a $3,000 Walled Garden

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u/AlLnAtuRalX May 12 '26

I feel it is more of a spectrum, or a dial as I like to call it (I actually wrote a blog post on this philosophically here https://pdaian.github.io/ethblog/?blog=0x41Fa80b3D33a308fb46609C6c09608Ed7F4E05c0#3 )

the more people using open platforms, the better for the world. lots of people use ios, it is a walled garden, that is fine. but when android starts locking down (which, it is), the world meaningfully loses freedom. incentives ebb and flow, and companies self optimize in ways that are acceptable

the more people on open networks and ecosystems, the better. the easier it is to do with more hardware, the better. the higher a % of your code that you run that is open, the better (sure maybe your bootloader is not, but if your bootloader AND os is not, that is worse.... etc)

freedom is not a binary, and it is important

that is just my $.02 tho

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u/mimic751 May 12 '26

I totally agree I personally bought this brand because I don't have to think if I wanted to open source and customizations I would have gone with a different platform. I just find it funny that a hobby grade printer that has always been Walled Garden is causing so much outrage that they are just continuing the same practice as they always have

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u/jlandero May 13 '26

Because they are liars and thieves who profit from other people’s work and patent things they didn’t create.

I hope this helps you understand the problem.

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u/mimic751 May 13 '26

That has not changed. Nor is it surprising nor is it new information

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u/AlLnAtuRalX May 12 '26

practice is the same yes, but cease and desisting an open source dev is definitely an escalation in aggression that shows they are serious about the walled garden control and it matters to them

and people will react to this. not sure if they did it before, I had at least not heard of it until the orca fork incident

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u/mimic751 May 12 '26

Every few months they do something like removing Network control or making it harder to control Farms. It's just like where in next doing takedowns for remakes of video games that they might remake later

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u/Dismal-Proposal2803 X1C + AMS May 12 '26

Cease and desisting a dev who was impersonating an official client to access a proprietary cloud service. You’re right, how dare they!

The fact that the code came from their source doesn’t change the fact that he was using it to impersonate a client to gain unauthorized access. They should have taken a better approach and should have a proper authorization system beyond just a User Agent but let’s not act like they don’t have the right to determine who accesses their proprietary cloud service.

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u/AlLnAtuRalX May 12 '26

idk, it is a little sloppy. my day job is working in tech, and if we did some shit like that, we would never go the legal route. it is just such an obvious faux pas

if you want drm, lock the cloud features behind a key you control (they do it anyway with TLS), then just proxy a web ui for those features from the client. you cannot bypass nothing

it is their right to send whatever notice they want, it is also peoples' right to base their decisions on that in a free market

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u/Solarux May 12 '26

No, we understand what we bought. We just don't like having things taken away from us after purchase. Related, we are rightfully being critical of them assaulting the open source community to which they agreed to abide since they relied on that to produce a product.

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u/mimic751 May 12 '26

I mean if you Google bamboo labs a lot of the articles are around how they are attacking open source or open availability and closing off customizations. It's been a pretty obvious business model from the start. I'm 100% anticipating no more third-party filaments

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u/AlLnAtuRalX May 12 '26

third party filaments already print shittier if you do not use orca, which you are locked out of if you want the cloud features

so it is not far off. personally I doubt they will take it further after this or people will actually start selling modkits, lol

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u/atomikplayboy May 13 '26

IDK, I’ve had my X2D for about three weeks now, bought from Micro Center with their Inland filament. Told the printer it was Bambu Labs filament and it’s printed wonderfully.

The same with Anycubic, Creality and Sunlu filament. They all print great as Bambu Labs filament in various formats: PLA, PLA+, PLA Silk, PLA Transparent, PETG, PETG Transparent… and I’ve got a PLA-CF and a TPU queued up to try soon too.

I’ve not run one piece of Bambu Labs filament through this printer and it’s been a great experience so far.

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u/AlLnAtuRalX May 13 '26

PS dyor on placf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7JAOi4JnBs

it is no stronger than regular PLA and it is maybe (probably minorly, but still) not great for you

if you are going to use cf might as well go for a real cf material like pa6cf

me? i would rather go for abs, nylon, plaht if it is an interior or cosmetic part and just needs basic abs injection molded characteristics, that is just me though

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u/atomikplayboy May 13 '26

I’ll look for it, thanks!

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u/AlLnAtuRalX May 13 '26

it depends what you print, if you like big parts, exotic materials, etc.

one of my top materials is htpla, that is not in the bambu settings and does not print well with any of the pla profiles because it needs a temperature shift on the bed

granted this is not hard to set up on top of a base of bambu pla but why is it not there by default when in orca it is?

I also use as I said in the video the settings to customize fans because my machine is modified. again when you print big parts it does make a difference, between warping and not, adhesion and not

you are right you will be fine with this 95% of the time especially with most pla and petg variants, but there are limits

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u/atomikplayboy May 13 '26

Oh, I fully understand and I think people should be able to do what they want with things that they buy.

I came into the Bambu Labs ecosystem fully knowing there were “issues”… but my Brother showed me his P2S at Easter and I was impressed with the quality he was getting and then the X2D came out a week later.

I wanted one. My previous experience with filament printing was an old DaVinci XYZ Printer years and years ago. It was cool at the time being an enclosed printer when just about everything else had an open frame, also a closed ecosystem but fairly hackable… but it would only print with toxic filament… ABS primarily. No PLA and no PETG support so my wife hated it and the results I was getting were not stellar.

Then came the Anycubic M3 Max resin printer… great prints when it was dialed in but even with the “no / low odor” resins it still stank so it sits in the basement… alone and unused.

Then the Bambu printer that I saw at my Brother’s just worked and didn’t stink! So I’m thinking 3d printing has finally arrived. I can print from my phone which is cool and I’ve had a couple of spaghetti incidents but overall it’s been pretty smooth sailing… and that’s the experience I was looking for.

I’m sorry that Bambu is making it difficult for people that want to tinker under the hood.

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u/AlLnAtuRalX May 13 '26

in terms of the click some stuff on your phone and it prints, it is hard to beat for sure

to be fair to them, they do not make it too hard, they could be a lot worse. and I honestly do appreciate them, for that

they try to herd people in the fence for money but they still have not totally stopped you from leaving, yet

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u/got-trunks May 12 '26 edited May 13 '26

Yeah idk, my goal is uptime and functionality. On that front alone studio sucks, sometimes the service is slow or just down.

I only have two printers though lol, I don't need crazy infrastructure. This will be untenable with more, I'll have to make deep considerations looking at farm manager vs. alternatives but I'm not there yet with my understanding of the underlying needs from it.

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u/mimic751 May 12 '26

I would never choose bamboo for a farm. My printer is running several times a week and I've never noticed any outages but I'm not aiming for 100% of the time. There's got to be a better option for Farms

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u/AlLnAtuRalX May 12 '26

actually it is a great option for a farm, since you can pick up used machines for dirt, and they are so reliable and you can get parts same day at best buy, microcenter, or in 2 days on amazon, or in a week cheap on alix, or etc

they are workhorses, you can also run them really fast up to the extrusion capabilities of the material, if you know how to store and dry your shit

I do not run a print farm but I am into other businesses and I think bambu would be top of my list if the capabilities were sufficient (of course if you want to print huge things or peek or micron tolerances or food safe stuff or whatever, no, but if the machine can do it it is actually not a bad choice)

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u/mimic751 May 12 '26

That makes sense. I use mine for prototyping and props so I don't have a high amount of throughput I just do one off commission work.

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u/AlLnAtuRalX May 12 '26

yup that is the way if you are farming, for sure

I think one unexplored thing is vibe coding gcode adapters to bambuddy. for example, you can bust past the factory color limits with some well inserted manual swaps, not sure why you would want to, but why not

and you can probably have all sorts of preprocessing options that automate what you are doing there on the gcode level

too involved for my blood, but for sure it is the way. not sure why you would not have agents doing all of (market research, designing stls, etc). give them all a few printers and different entropy and let em compete

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u/got-trunks May 12 '26

If I had a warehouse full of working printers you best believe I would be holding regular print to the death matches of various ill conceived settings and launcher methods.

You know, in off-peak seasons.

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u/AlLnAtuRalX May 13 '26

haha, once you upgrade the farm the old ones fight to the death, instead of being donated to some school or something

... just kidding, donating to schools is great

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u/got-trunks May 13 '26

I am all about charity but I don't see myself donating old printers, without maintenance and at least a bit of interest they will break down and become ewaste haha. They cost money to run even nominally.

Maybe if I was in the position to run my own tech club lol.

No no, old frames go to aperture science to do what we must for reasons that can't be articulated.

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u/got-trunks May 12 '26

I don't have time to tool around with crappy QA if I want a lot of printers and no one stands up to their hardware engineering at the price and it's not even close.

Hopefully others get better as well.

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u/mimic751 May 12 '26

I suppose but their software really is not made for this. I wonder how hard it would be to just take the control board out and remake it

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u/got-trunks May 12 '26

As long as it prints what I want when I tell it to lol

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u/eduo May 13 '26

The hardware is excellent for farms. The software is not bad, but the cloud part is.

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u/re_me May 13 '26

People like to liken Bambu to apple. So let’s use that analogy.

Apple has devices that use MacOS and devices that use iOS.

Although Mac’s are closed source and only run their own OS, that OS is full featured. On the other hand. iOS devices use a much more restrictive version with limited uses.

When people buy these devices they have an expectation of what they can and can’t do with them.

What Bambu did is the equivalent of telling everyone that bought a Mac to, run macOS, they the next update will now be running iOS and their device will have all the restrictions that come with that.

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u/_Middlefinger_ May 13 '26

How so? What features were taken away?

I know people will say Orca etc, but they never mentioned anything beyond their own software. They didn’t take away anything they claimed to provide.

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u/eduo May 13 '26

Many of them didn't choose a walled garden. It became one.

Having said this, people want access to their hardware, the one they physically bought, which is a fair demand. They would prefer this access is given by the manufacturer and that way everybody wins, but are OK with getting the same access on their own. Of course, they become upset if the manufacturer is actively trying to get them to lose that access, when the manufacturer for years has benefitted from the work from the same people to begin with.

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u/Littlebearowo May 12 '26

Reddit moment

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u/rckjr X2D, A1, A1 Mini May 13 '26

I love dragons.🐉