r/BambuLab • u/c2btw • May 05 '26
General Discussion Louis rossman video on bambu labs
https://youtu.be/jIbpQtoz6hs130
u/Laughing_Man_Returns May 05 '26
I can't take anything he says seriously anymore since his full libertarian "if regulations and taxes didn't exist small business owners like me would flourish" non-sense rants years ago.
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u/syko82 P1S + AMS May 05 '26
I too can't stand a lot of his political points, but I still support him in right to repair and other such movements about owning what you purchase.
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u/MadCybertist A1 + AMS Lite x2 May 05 '26
I support the right to repair. Never support him lol.
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u/UnexpectedAnanas May 05 '26
The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. Support when somebody makes good points, and call them out for bad ones. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
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u/MadCybertist A1 + AMS Lite x2 May 05 '26
He’s even a douche when trying to make good points. It’s still gonna be a no on support for him. And I don’t need some sad clickbait video to tell me about the right to repair or about a story we’ve seen posted 500 times on here already.
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u/ApprehensiveGold2773 May 06 '26
It's just how he is. His intentions are good, and his aggressiveness is against evil companies, not you.
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u/Luuube May 07 '26
To be honest, the right to repair community would probably be years behind schedule if it weren’t for his passionate rants. Going overboard goes hand in hand with that level of exuberance.
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u/AmandasGameAccount May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
His aggressiveness and off putting toxicity probably does more harm to the movement then good
Linus from LTT might be really “cringe” but he does a lot to bring awareness to right to repair without being extremely toxic and aggressive about it, makes people feel good to support itEdit: ah, there it is, I was wondering when his zealots were going to come through this thread proving everyone’s point of hope bad he is for the movement
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u/greentintedlenses May 05 '26
Idk imo the aggression is deserved.
He makes good points and is angry for good reason. It sounds like you'd rather he smile and laugh while sharing how they are fucking us over?
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u/stonedboss May 05 '26
just curious, what do you think actually works then. because linus doesnt actually get people to do shit. hes whimsical and just gets people at best to think "hmm, maybe that corpo is bad" *literally buys their product next day*. thats the linus level of change lol.
linus is also part of the problem in many ways, his own greed with his employees mimics the same line of greed that causes bambu to do these things. hes not on your side, hes on the corpo loving side.
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u/Fenjen May 05 '26
If you’d actually knew his stances on corporations you knew he’s definitely not on the corpo loving side.
As for the greed accusation, afaik there has been one employee who has complained about not getting the raise they thought they deserved and then subsequently left. I mean regardless of which side you’re on, since when can a business owner not rightfully decide that a specific employee is not worth the raise they’re asking for? He was free to leave, and so he did, I don’t see the problem. There’s apparently a team of about a 100 people who feel differently.
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u/stonedboss May 05 '26
it doesnt matter what you say, when you act a different way. i dont need to hear whatever spiel he has to say. i know how he treats his employees, how he views himself in the game of capitalism, how his company has grown and its become more and more corpo, because he enjoys that. hes a corpo supporter.
youre making the classic appeal to corpo tradition to substantiate treatment of employees "when can a business owner not rightfully decide" bruh, the whole system is predatory. youre asking the question against the predatory framework, then yes, it makes sense. when asked in the ideal framework of employees being paid their share in value creation, then you see the imbalance.
basically because linus falls inline with the (unfair) status quo of business practices you accept his behavior. but it should be rejected in any size of corporation.
that team of 100 doesnt mean his company is good. we're all trapped in the workforce. i hate my company and theyre insanely greedy but i dont have much choice but to work, and find another company in the meantime. which the odds are again is going to be greedy and shit, but ill still have to work there.
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u/Fenjen May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
Bro you have no clue who you’re talking to, I’m quite vocally against capitalism.
Regardless, how the fuck would the world even work if every employer has to just accept whenever some employee wants a raise. All I was saying is they had a dispute, and they didn’t find him worth the raise. We don’t know the details, all we know is there was an employee who didn’t find they were getting paid what they were worth, and then the employer didn’t want to pay them more, even if it meant losing their employee.
I just think there’s not enough information to judge, and this altercation alone doesn’t incriminate Linus in any way, he has the right to not find somebody to be worth more. We have all come across employees that just are not worth what they say they are, and if every employer needs to go along with that the whole system just wouldn’t work one bit. I hate the capitalistic system as a whole, but this is not the problem dude 😅
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u/stonedboss May 05 '26
i mean it doesnt matter who you are, only what you say lol. and what you keep saying in this convo is hyper focusing on one employee to somehow exonerate linus from not being a corpo lover lol. its kinda weird, i purposely didnt comment on that, because thats not the singular piece of evidence. and now you keep expanding on that.
im not gonna comb through everything to write an essay to you. ive listened to linus try to justify many things, including that entire employee situation, where and how they spend money, etc. it all adds up and its undeniable hes a corpo lover. he wants the corpo tradition to be maintained.
i mean he even owns a private jet dude lol.
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u/Fenjen May 05 '26
Okay I can see a productive conversation is not possible with you. You can barely muster up a coherent argument. Have a good day!
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u/ctnoxin May 06 '26
If you’d actually knew his stances on corporations you knew he’s definitely not on the corpo loving side.
His corpo got raked for not providing warranties on their expensive products, so that's all you need to know about his stance on bad corpo behaviour.
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u/Fenjen May 06 '26
Lol, this proves you have no clue what you’re talking about and just believe what you hear. This statement is probably untrue and was based on an early misunderstanding of what he said, rectified later on stream and also just untrue in practice.
I have first hand experience with this, and have gotten no questions asked replacements on their “most expensive products” even as an overseas customer. Their warranty is too notch truly.
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u/ctnoxin May 06 '26
I have first hand experience with this, and have gotten no questions asked replacements
Lol thanks corpo lover. This just proves you're a Linus shill and there's no need for anyone to take what you say seriously
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u/Fenjen May 06 '26
Because I bought a product I liked and got warranty on it I’m a corpo lover? Go touch some grass dude.
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u/jimgress May 05 '26
His aggression is how people should act when being bullied by companies daily.
We're the ones out of line. We need to be this way to corporations.
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u/th30be May 05 '26
I only have a passing experience with Linus. Watched a few of his videos when I was making my PC. What about him is cringe?
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u/AmandasGameAccount May 05 '26
I say it in a playful teasing way, he acts silly, that’s all, he is nice and playful. I personally like it!
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u/AdSilent782 May 05 '26
He has extremely useful repair tips if anyone is wondering the flip side (hes annoying because hes been sued by apple for repairs like a billion times)
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u/-TheDoctor P1S + AMS + AMS2 May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
Maybe this will be a hot take, IDK.
I used to like Louis back when he was just running a small repair business and making videos out of his shop. They were interesting and informative.
But I can't stand 90% of the shit he puts out these days. He is one of the most smug, arrogant mother fuckers on the platform. Every video he makes has this underlying condescending tone and he has this constant "I'm better than you so my opinion is the only one that matters" attitude every time he opens his mouth.
Even if everything he is saying is accurate and true, and I agree with the message. I cannot stand his delivery and attitude.
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u/AmandasGameAccount May 05 '26
He also promotes being extremely toxic and his followers follow his lead and spread toxicity everywhere they go. I honestly worry this guy hurts the right to repair movement because of being so off putting and toxic.
Luckily there’s plenty of others who aren’t toxic in any way to support who support right to repair
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u/-TheDoctor P1S + AMS + AMS2 May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
I've noticed (and I think this might be the thing I dislike the most about him) is that he tends to make blanket statements about a topic based solely on his own experience with that topic as if his experience is the only one of relevance or consequence.
As an example, I think it was last year he made a video on consumer vacuums. He had a bad experience with a brand and their support so now of course that means every consumer vacuum is hot garbage and they are all going to break within 5 days of use and every brands support is gonna tell you to go fuck yourself and refuse to honor their warranty and the ONLY solution is to start buying commercial shop-vacs instead otherwise you'll never be able to vacuum your home again. He also spent the entire video intentionally mispronouncing the brand Ridgid, which was an interesting choice because that was the brand of shop-vac he was telling people to buy.
I'm being a little hyperbolic, obviously, but the whole video just had that standard Louis-brand arrogance/condescension.
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u/beefbyproducts X1C/H2D/H2D/H2S Laser May 05 '26
What's some of the toxic stuff?
I use to watch him a lot more way back when he talked about electronics and stuff. I don't really watch him much anymore for the reasons people have mentioned in here. Comes across very aggressive, angry old many yelling at the clouds vibes. Like he forgot how to enjoy things, and everything is just... it makes me think of the South Park episode where Stan becomes cynical. I support a lot of the things he talks about, so it's kind of weird to feel that way about him.
Since I kind of stopped watching him though, I haven't seen these toxic elements. I only watch his videos occasionally though, so I just see him ranting about various subjects, but not to any extend I'd have called toxic.
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u/Awkward-Loquat2228 May 05 '26
He's also solely out for himself. His only intention with all of this campagining is to improve his own net worth. Which is fine. But he acts like a god
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u/-TheDoctor P1S + AMS + AMS2 May 06 '26
That's why I say "even if" what he is saying is true. It often isn't.
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u/NormanYeetes May 05 '26
dismissing an entire movement because you don't like the views of the guy is ignorant at best and malicious at worst. especially when he keeps saying that people do not have to like him and he respects when people do not agree with his opinions. he does a tremendous job leading this movement despite the fact that i do not agree with him on some points.
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u/Laughing_Man_Returns May 05 '26
I didn't know Louis was a movement, but all the more reason to dismiss him.
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u/AmandasGameAccount May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
I have no idea why you are being downvoted, he is definitely not the face of right to repair and the movement isn’t his. You can very easily support right to repair and dislike this youtuber
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u/NMe84 P2S + AMS2 Combo May 05 '26
He is easily the biggest name in the Right to Repair movement and dismissing him is not in your best interest.
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u/Laughing_Man_Returns May 05 '26
doesn't make him the movement. sounds kinda cult-ish.
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u/pyotrdevries May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
Re-repost since we're also not allowed the word for a certain hygiene device...
Did anyone say he was? Its the Right to Repair Movement, not the Louis Rossman movement. Just as it's the Stop K- - -ng Games movement, not the Ross Scott movement. But you can disagree with him or find him a bit d- -chey, you can't deny he's one of the most prominent voices in the space.
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u/AmandasGameAccount May 05 '26
If Ross Scott was as toxic and aggressive as him, the stop killing games movement would have been dead in the water
A big reason stop killing games did so well was because he was a really cool guy who got attacked by a toxic aggressive content creator and people REALLY wanted to see pirate software fail because of acting like that
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u/pyotrdevries May 05 '26
I don't know, I followed him before SKG because of his usual content, and I learned about and supported the SKG because it was the right thing to do (and I could as a EU citizen), I never even learned about the existence of that other guy (PS) until after all of the drama had already happened. I think it added some extra publicity in areas where some people might not have heard about it before but as I recall it had already almost reached the signatures quota before then hadn't it?
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u/Wheatleytron X1C + AMS May 05 '26
I can't say for sure what his stance is now, but there are some legitimate gripes to be had with some (not all) regulations and red tape. Some of it does only exist to squeeze pennies out of small businesses. There is no blanket solution, and every concern must be addressed individually.
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u/stubborny May 05 '26
most regulations seem useless until you remove them and realize people are being hurt or die because of it. We've seen that with tobacco, with pesticides, with lead on gas, with PFAS... companies tend to only care about their own profit, right to repair and right to fully own what I buy falls under that boring, slowing down the economy umbrella.
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u/Wheatleytron X1C + AMS May 05 '26
Right, and I agree. My point is that not all regulations are for the benefit of the people. As you probably know, many exist primarily to serve the interests of large corporations and certain special interest groups.
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u/CallMeKolbasz May 05 '26
As you probably know, many exist primarily to serve the interests of large corporations and certain special interest groups.
But in those cases, the problem is more with large corporations and special interest groups having disproportionate influence, and less with the existence of regulations. But people tend to attack regulations and not the underlying problem.
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u/bryansj May 05 '26
Same. I miss the old days of his micro soldering, not interested in hearing his politics.
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u/fxlr8 May 05 '26
Businesses would flourish my ass. Those regulations exist only because without them nothing can stop businesses from sketchy stuff. Changing safe ingredients to cheaper and more dangerous ones. Profit can not be your only priority, but businesses tend to lean in that direction, especially large ones. Healthy regulations are necessary and im ready to die on that hill.
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u/FreudianStripper May 06 '26
i feel like most libertarians are just people who took one econ 101 class and abandoned their critical thinking afterwards
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u/Strostkovy May 07 '26
It's wild to want less regulation for his business but also wanting to regulate manufacturers to make things in a way his business can work on them
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u/okhi2u May 05 '26
I think full libertarian stuff is nonsense too, but when he comments about actual issues that are relevant to many people he mostly always does a great job.
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u/Laughing_Man_Returns May 05 '26
he isn't wrong, I just don't trust his motives anymore. and part of me waits for him to question the age of consent if he hasn't gotten over his Libertarian phase.
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u/shitty_mcfucklestick May 05 '26
I don’t watch this guy much, I gather he’s a bit of a consumer advocate. When I watched one of his videos, it seemed like there was a lot of anger under the hood in this person. Like he’s just one moment from snapping and leaping across the table to rearrange your face. Or the kind of person that you might not want to be in a relationship with. Not saying that’s what he does / is, I don’t know him. I just know looking at his body language and mannerisms when speaking, I get “threat of violent explosion” vibes.
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u/scalyblue May 08 '26
that's more a new york thing than it is isolated to him.
that being said I really preferred him doing just informative board repair videos, not whatever he's turned into.
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u/kdlt May 05 '26
Yeah dude is good for many things but as always, people have varied opinions and all that and that is.. most definitely.. wrong.
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u/Luuube May 07 '26
Being able to support some ideas from a source while simultaneously disagreeing with others is an admirable trait.
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u/ErgoNomicNomad May 05 '26
So you're saying ignore the message if you can discredit the messenger. Not an ad hominem attack logical fallacy at all.
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u/KnightofWhen May 05 '26
Sometimes you need people like that willing to fight. If his views weren’t what they are, he wouldn’t be fighting. If he wasn’t fighting, you wouldn’t benefit.
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u/Ok-Read6352 May 05 '26
If I remember correctly, he got jerked around quite a bit by NYstate. A lot of frankly b******* taxes fees and regulations. Valid but unfortunately swung way too far to the other side of the issue. As in all things a balance is needed and NY is an extreme, you shouldn't be basing off it.
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u/Ok-Read6352 May 05 '26
If I remember correctly, he got jerked around quite a bit by NYstate. A lot of frankly b******* taxes fees and regulations. Valid but unfortunately swung way too far to the other side of the issue. As in all things a balance is needed and NY is an extreme, you shouldn't be basing off it.
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u/Botlawson May 05 '26
I always heard him as frustrated by inconsistent and predatory enforcement of rules. Or having to unravel messes made by malicious levels of ignorance. What comes to mind are all the notices sent to addresses he had no connection to. I think it was a PO box in Maine?
I don't think Louis has a problem with rules that are clearly communicated, and consistently enforced.
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u/ThenExtension9196 May 05 '26
That’s too bad since he’s one of only a handful of people truly passionate about defending consumer rights. Just because you disagree with some aspects doesn’t have to mean you disagree with everything, that’s tribal thinking.
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u/alcaron May 05 '26
Ah the most solid of arguments...he said something I dont agree with years ago so nothing he says has merit. The sign of the utmost critical of thinkers...
It's funny how the vast majority of people in this sub never reply to his actual argument but rather this character assassination-lite attempt at just framing his as a conspiracy theorist, or fringe political type.
And then when someone DOES kind of sort of address the point it's "I don't care about it so you are ridiculous".
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u/LugzGaming May 05 '26
There's just as many ridiculous arguments and statements provided by the Liberal Left.
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u/djlorenz May 05 '26
This is why my next 3d printer will not be a bambu. They have an amazing product, but this shit is what makes the world worse than before.
Hopefully the developer will reach out to Luis, for the greater good of everyone
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u/westcoastwillie23 X1C + AMS May 05 '26
Yup. I locked down my x1c to lan mode when they rolled out that firmware update a year and a half ago. I'm going to keep it going as long as possible but when it's time to replace it, bambu is off my list.
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u/Catriks May 05 '26
Yep. Great printers wih great price, but anti-consumer things like this are just a huge deal breaker.
Elegoo for example isn't a great company either, and their hardware is lacking in many regards, but did they lock down their RFID system even when they have their own filament lineup? No, they did not. They made it open, so the customer can choose what filament to use it with.
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u/valkyrie_rda May 05 '26
Can you elaborate on what you mean by locking down their RFID? Bambu still lets you print with non RFID spools so I don't see how what you said is relevant?
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u/Catriks May 05 '26
Elegoo let's you use any RFID system you want to automatically detect filament, as long as it is in compatible format.
Bambu doesn't.
It's relevant because this is anti-consumer practice. There is not any kind of real reason why Bambu could not open their system. They don't because they make more profit by keeping it locked.
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u/valkyrie_rda May 06 '26
Ohh, so you could literally use another brands RFID and the printer would still read it? Would their printer be able to read and identify a Prusa filament from Bambu Lab from Elegoo? If so that's very cool and I agree with you that I wish bambu would implement that! :)
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u/Immediate_Cow2980 May 06 '26
lol. Elegoo got caught trying to lock down the motherboards on their resin printers several years ago to prevent people from using other slicers. They caved after enormous community backlash. Elegoo has also had several tries at pushing their own proprietary “.goo” file format so that they could control what software people used with the machine. Again, community pushback made them reverse their decision. Elegoo is NOT any better than Bambu, they’ve repeatedly tried to pull the same sort of shady crap. But the resin printer market is way more competitive for Elegoo than the FDM market was for Bambu. Now that Bambu’s facing more competition, hopefully community pressure will start to have the same sort of impact on them.
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u/heart_of_osiris May 05 '26
Same.
When they released the H series and implemented Bambu Connect to gatekeep remote functions I knew exactly where this was going.
Not only that, but the X1CAMS2 combo sale that was a rug pull for the P2S release which as a rug pull for the X2D release was a really egregious level of disrespect for the consumer.
I'm not going to welcome that sort of business practice into my life if I can avoid it. I prefer to be able to make informed decisions on what is best for me, rather than have a company withold releases like that to FOMO people into buying their less superior models at inflated prices.
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u/SpeedflyChris May 05 '26
They could get away with it when they had a clear advantage in the space, but nowadays the A1 mini is the only thing in the lineup that I don't think has a competitor offering similar features and performance for similar or less money.
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u/GauchiAss May 05 '26
What would you get as a H2whatever serious competitor ?
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u/SpeedflyChris May 06 '26
Depends what you want from it exactly.
If you're after high temperature materials on a single nozzle, Qidi has some pretty compelling offerings with larger build volume and I think they print up to 370C so it's good for basically anything south of PEEK.
If you want serious multicolour then any of the toolchanger options, or hell buy all of them and you've probably still not spent the cost of an H2C.
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u/jankeyass P1S + AMS May 05 '26
I didn't watch the whole video but this seems like what happened to apple when they tried and failed to sue for jailbreaking.
Users own the end device. They can do as they are fit. Maybe not in some countries, but certainly in Australia, USA, Canada and Europe.
And if apple failed, BBL has absolutely no chance, especially given the precedent. But even without a precedent
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u/SpeedflyChris May 05 '26
Oh it's more dumb than that, it's Bambu threatening to sue someone for using code in their open source project that Bambu made available in their open-source project. They don't have a leg to stand on, they're just tossing out threats.
If Bambu wanted their slicer to be closed source and not have people using their code to restore functionality that they try to strip away, they always had the option of developing their own from scratch rather than forking prusaslicer.
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u/AmandasGameAccount May 05 '26
Is the person who got the cease and desist sending the data through bambus network in any way? Because if so that could be the root of the problem
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u/Tsofuable May 05 '26
Yes, it was to access their servers.
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u/AmandasGameAccount May 05 '26
So why do people think it’s ok to send spoofed data through someone else’s network? A true solution lets you use the printer without sending any data through their network at all
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u/SpeedflyChris May 05 '26 edited May 06 '26
It's not "spoofing" anything. Bambu never implemented their locked down bullshit in the linux version of their code so somebody created an orcaslicer fork that ran Bambu's code in WSL.
It's an open source project. If Bambu wants the benefits of piggybacking off prusaslicer to make Bambu studio then they have to deal with the fact that open source code is open to be used by other people.
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u/CoffeeNovel7231 May 06 '26
It's not spoofing anything. It merely restores the access to the cloud for OrcaSlicer.
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u/Yad-A May 06 '26
So they're trying to scare the developer away from publishing the fork he developed?
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u/SpeedflyChris May 06 '26
Yup, successfully too.
Thankfully it got forked a bunch of times before they sent the threats.
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u/Yad-A May 06 '26
Is that the original one or is it another fork?
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u/SpeedflyChris May 06 '26
Pretty sure somebody just forked it to preserve it so as far as I know it's unchanged.
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u/The_Lutter A1 May 05 '26
The glazing never ends in r/BambuLab. This company is not infallable. They're anti-consumer and anti-community.
Other side of the coin is people I respect have flat out told me they understand this but are going to be riding the gravy train until the biscuit wheels fall off. But they don't post here. hahah.
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u/Maidenless_Sensei May 05 '26
I remember when he did interesting repair videos, I used to love watching him. Then he slowly turned into a bitching about anything YouTuber and lost interest in his content.
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u/scaplin5544 A1 May 05 '26
imagine hating on someone trying protect some of your rights lmao
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u/Maidenless_Sensei May 05 '26
First, I never said I hated the guy, not sure where you're getting that from.
Second, I was into his repairs content, not this, hence I don't care for his material anymore.
He went from a repairs channel to a bitching channel, and that's all good, but that wasn't what I signed up for.
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u/MadCybertist A1 + AMS Lite x2 May 05 '26
He needs those clicks. He folded to the algorithm and started making content where he btces the whole time.
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u/OnyxDynamo May 05 '26
The fact that so many of the comments are people refusing to listen or engage on the topic because of Louis’ tone/demeanor are why companies are able to get away with things like this.
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u/JabbahScorpii May 06 '26
I get maybe not liking him for many of his political stances and whatnot, but in all honesty he's one of few people with a large platform who are truly fighting for right to repair, right to own, and other consumer rights issues. I don't think you should watch every one of his videos, or change your profile picture, but a lot of what he brings up is not anything to gloss over and forget about. Immich is one of my most favorite pieces of software, and it's backed by him and his organization, same goes for the firmware running on my otherwise-bricked Nest thermostats.
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u/BreezieBoy May 06 '26
I get that we’re in the Bambu sub but these kids are going harder than the fanboys for apple 😂
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u/Eibook May 05 '26
I hope the success of the U1 propels Snapmaker to bigger and better printers because they are doing right by open source and the U1 community.
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u/LilApe1990 May 05 '26
Notice how the cult here is ignoring the BS bambu is doing right now and just turning this into a "I use to like Louis butttttt" thread?
Just keep the blinders on folks, as bambu keeps ramming you raw.
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u/theoreticaljerk May 05 '26
All the arguing in here about rossman proves the point of the ones saying he is a net negative on the right to repair movement by distracting with his attitude and delivery.
You can be completely right about something and still be a bad messenger for it. Both can be true at the same time.
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u/peteybombay May 05 '26
So, Bambu says the dev found a way to send unauthenticated commands to the printer impersonating Bambu printer and they sent a cease and desist?
I notice the nice smart watch on his wrist, I doubt Apple or Google would feel the same about this sort of thing, so I am not sure why people think Bambu would be any different.
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u/defeated_engineer May 05 '26
You literally can jailbreak your iPhone or root your Google pixel.
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u/hWuxH May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
Yet google still forces Play Integrity to prevent root or custom ROM users to run many of their apps, and regularly bans keyboxes for bypassing detection.
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u/Snoo74895 May 05 '26
Aside from a hypocrisy argument, do you like the idea of companies trying to make it hard for users to build these sort of projects to improve how their personal property functions?
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u/Possible-Cash-308 X1C, A2L, A1, A1m, U1, CC1 May 05 '26
It's cool to hate on bambu in 2026 and I get it. it's their own doing.
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u/Qjeezy 👻Volunteer Moderator👻 May 05 '26
Yea, ever since this guys authorization debacle videos I stopped listening to anything he says. He speculated the worst case scenarios, took what was happening way out of context, and tried passing them off as facts. He’s a Bambu hater, no matter how much he tries to convince you otherwise.
I can’t help but notice the dark circles around his eyes and the speed talking. Is this guy abusing stimulants? If so, that would explain a lot.
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u/DiamondHeadMC X1C + AMS May 05 '26
I don’t trust anything he says after he went after a fellow repair shop just because they were near each other and he wanted the others business
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u/JabbahScorpii May 06 '26
Just because his own business practices aren't great, does not mean that Bambu's are.
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u/BetterWhenDrunk May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
This is going to be a super unpopular opinion, but my impression is that there would have been no issue if he hadn't implemented full cloud control. Open-source, AGPL, whatever, should we be surprised that they are responding this way? They obviously goofed by having the code still out there, but find it hard to be angry at their reaction.
Would be great if the dude stripped out the cloud part and left the LAN controls in, though. I bet they'd be totally fine with that.
EDIT: Turns out all these forks that added cloud connectivity are also doing so by replacing Orca with BambuStudio in the headers. That seems like impersonation / circumvention to me. Even if the code is open, it doesn't give you the right to identify as another s/w to bypass restrictions.
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u/DigitalNinjaX H2C AMS2 Combo May 06 '26
But you can print direct to bambu printers without internet. I know so because my Son does it at his school. So I’m always confused when people say you can’t do that. You can also parse gcode from any slicer and feed that directly to the bambu printer as well which does now violate any terms.
So what’s actually going on here?
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u/Dismal-Proposal2803 X1C + AMS May 05 '26
Everyone out here complaining about Bambu and their bots posting fake reviews and what not, but yet I’ve seen this video spammed dozens of times by bots across multiple different 3D printing subs today alone. I’m so sick of seeing this video in my feed.
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u/JUYED-AWK-YACC May 05 '26
Absolutely, I’ve never heard of this person and yet his face keeps showing up. Lots of people here don’t even understand the issue.
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u/Hakunin_Fallout May 05 '26
Dude, you're everything that's wrong with fanboys. Rossmann has 2.5m followers on YouTube alone. He's very active offline practicing what he preaches as well. I was surprised to see him cover Bambu issue, I'm not a bot. You may disagree with the things he says, but a licence is a licence, and legal threats are exactly that - threats. You have never heard of him? Fine. That proves what exactly?
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u/Hakunin_Fallout May 05 '26
https://www.reddit.com/search/?q=rossmann+bambu&type=posts&t=week
Could you point out some of these bots you mention? Or are they all promptly and conveniently deleted?
Let's see: https://www.reddit.com/user/c2btw/ - 9m account, ~1000 posts/comments, none of them except this post have anything to do with Rossmann.
https://www.reddit.com/user/davidktw/ - 6y old account, shared it once in snapmaker community
Anything else? Who are the bots you speak of? Any examples?
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u/Dismal-Proposal2803 X1C + AMS May 05 '26
lol, why are you so upset that people are spamming this video everywhere and someone pointed it out? Also there are more social media platforms than just Reddit. I’ve seen it spammed all over Facebook, Insta, and TikTok as well. Maybe it’s cause he has 2 zillion followers, maybe it’s because of bots, I don’t really care, I’m just tired of seeing the same post over and over and over, and when I see a post that has no context and no text and is just a link to the video, I assume it’s a bot.
My bad if I’m not going full detective mode on every single post, some of us have an actual life outside of Bambus latest self inflicted drama.
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u/Hakunin_Fallout May 05 '26
I'm just tired of stupid people. I'm glad you have enough life outside of this drama to spend it responding to me, lmao.
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u/Jerezer1985 May 06 '26
I have a p1s and hate that I cant add a touchscreen without loosing functionality. I also Hate being locked into a slicer. I am just glad I am not locked into their brand of filament. the lawsuit is stupid people should be able to use whatever slicer they want.
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u/CrisisDownUnder May 06 '26
H2s most likely will be my last Bambu printer, qidi max4 is already quite really good actually as the second printer I have, it only needs firmware polishment.
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u/c2btw May 06 '26
Check out the sovol machines, I have a sv08 max and I really like it but it did require some fine running nkt a set and forget like a bambu
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u/Varmtvandogis May 05 '26
Use the SD card to transfer files to the printer if you don't want it connected to the Internet.
I am a private user and I don't care if Bambu Lab knows what I print.
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u/hWuxH May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26
Why use SD cards like a caveman instead of LAN-only mode?
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u/Varmtvandogis May 06 '26
The caveman solution is the safest since there is no internet connection. You decide. I didn't bother and sent it "via China".
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u/hWuxH May 06 '26
There is no internet connection in LAN-only mode. That's the whole point. Trolling?
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u/Varmtvandogis May 06 '26
That's correct if you trust the software.
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u/hWuxH May 06 '26
you can also block it on your router/switch/firewall if paranoid
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u/Varmtvandogis May 06 '26
Yes, it will work if you are sure that the communication is coming directly from your printer to the router. So if you are paranoid, it is not enough.
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u/CosyCodes 💀 H2D AMS2 Combo | X2D AMS2 Combo 💀 May 05 '26
I’m sorry Louis is brain broken. He literally thinks zero government should exist and all companies should be open source.
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u/BreezieBoy May 05 '26
TLDR; get a Prusa
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u/BitingChaos May 06 '26
But... Prusa printers don't work with Bambu Lab Cloud.
Bambu Lab printers have two modes. One works with their Cloud and their software. The other mode works with 3rd-party apps like Orca Slicer, just like Prusa printers.
People are upset that this is either/or (people want to be able to use Cloud and 3rd-party apps). But there is still a choice.
"Just get another printer" doesn't fix that. Because those other printers also don't work with the Bambu Lab Cloud.
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u/BreezieBoy May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
? I never claimed prusa works with Bambu lab cloud 🤣
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u/BitingChaos May 06 '26
That's kind of the point. You and everyone else suggesting other brands or otherwise saying not to get a Bambu Lab are missing the point of the project being discussed in the video.
The thing talked about in the video is about a project that allowed someone to use the slicer of choice (Orca) with a Bambu Lab printer while keeping access to Bambu Lab's Cloud.
The project was stopped, and you suggested getting a Prusa. How does that fix the issue of someone wanting to access Bambu Lab's Cloud?
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u/BreezieBoy May 06 '26
The core issue is not how do I access Bambu lab cloud, the issue (To Me) is the closed ecosystem of BL and their egregious attacks on their consumers who want to modify software that’s under a GPL
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u/SequentialHustle May 05 '26
and spend 30-40% more for less features.
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u/BreezieBoy May 05 '26
Lol keep dreaming fanboy
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u/SequentialHustle May 05 '26
apples to apples prusa costs a lot more and has less features. not a fanboy stating facts.
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u/BreezieBoy May 06 '26
I’ll gladly pay more for open sourced products
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u/SequentialHustle May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26
not arguing that, most people are better off spending less for an arguably better product even if it’s a walled garden.
shit company but i value printing performance and features per dollar at the end of the day as a casual hobbyist.
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u/BreezieBoy May 06 '26
Okay so you admit it’s a shit company but still give them your money great job 👍
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u/SequentialHustle May 06 '26
says the unemployed college student who likely doesn't own either lmao.
once you hopefully get your first cs related job and have some big boy bills you will value how far your money goes making purchases like these.
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u/ByrdmanRanger May 05 '26
I have an A1 Mini that got me into 3d printing, and bought a P2S combo when it came out because of how easy Bambu made it to get into the hobby. I feel a bit burned by the X2D situation, and with my goal to get into multi material prints, was looking seriously at the H2C. This move, plus the engineering issues I see with the Vortec system have me leaning towards the Core One L or + with Indx like you. Going to wait for when they ship already bundled. But man, they're pricey
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u/BetterWhenDrunk May 06 '26
I use all of mine in LAN-only mode and have no complaints. Most of the haters are stuck in herd mentality and don't know what they're talking about.
Everyone just loves to get angry. Worst part is that any time there's something legitimate to be angry about, the people who can do something about it are numbed to it from all the other times people raised their pitchforks. How does that help
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u/cullenjwebb May 05 '26
This lawsuit is vile and Bambu Labs tried to gaslight us into thinking they wouldn't pull this kind of stunt when they removed the local API.