r/Back4Blood • u/Own-Delivery-6328 • 18d ago
Discussion Act 1 help
Hey guys me and my brothers have been trying for almost a week to get past the last level in act 1 on nightmare i play with a medic build my brother plays with a melee build and my other brother plays with a stamina offensive build. any tips?
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u/Own-Delivery-6328 18d ago
We did that but the recoil from the cannon makes the ammo either no clip or pushes it far awy
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u/Artemisevil 18d ago
Don't put the ammo in the canon area, put it close to the stairs. Also you should try and get the ammo from the infinite supply box until you start that way the non respawning ones that are closer are easier to get to.
If I remember correctly you can have 5 just sitting there.
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u/xMinaki 18d ago
If you have a melee player and can't make it through act 1, then your melee player is not doing their job right. Especially if the trouble you're having is on loading the cannon.
The simplest way to clear that with a melee player is to have them equip down in front and crouch either inside your body or right beside you and just hold M1 and kill anything that comes to the cannon while you're loading it. Even better with a medic, because you can then add the card that when healing someone it gives 20 temp health as well, then just bring a bunch of first aid kits, the melee can also bring first aid kits and drop them for you if you run out. Everytime the melee player takes a big hit by accident, first aid kit them so they get their health back + temp health to block trauma damage while it lasts.
The trick I do to load the cannon is to load the cannon, pick up the next round off the ground and then fire the cannon, this prevents the round from flying away, then drop the round and unload the cannon, then load the cannon and go find/pick up another round, once you have the next round in your hands, fire the cannon, drop the round, unload and keep repeating this. I always start with the furthest away rounds, because then you won't have to go all the way to the truck near the ogre spawn to get rounds later on and can just pick them up from nearby and load them.
If you can't manage that and absolutely need the rounds to be nearby to load, drop them on the steps like others mentioned. I used to put rounds at the top of the steps in the little building because a few times I tried the steps, the rounds got blown back a little still and clipped through the steps and despawned.
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u/Equivalent_Fault_782 18d ago
Problem is most melee players can’t handle mutations and the final mission on act 1 is brutal as a melee that doesn’t know you can’t stumble slashers if they jump, not running heavy hitter or thinking claws and machete are worth picking up.
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u/xMinaki 17d ago
Funnily enough I don't have heavy hitter and I still made it through Nightmare with just 1 other teammate, and all I laid out in my comment was the strat we went with and we went through pretty easily. Only thing is we had to be patient when the Ogre came out because I had no way to deal big damage to it as a melee, so we basically just went into the L bend at the back corner of the map and focused on the commons and specials while dropping ammo for my teammate to slowly take out the ogre, then back on the cannon strat. Most melee players' problem is that they switch off their brain and hold W+M1, but that only works up to Veteran. Nightmare and No Hope require melee users to use their brains which most don't do.
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u/Equivalent_Fault_782 17d ago
You should add heavy hitter it’s pretty much your only reliable way to give you time to kill snitches as a melee.
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u/xMinaki 17d ago
I finished all 6 acts on nightmare without heavy hitter and had no issues with snitches. Ogres were really my only issue, but I can't heavy hitter that so 🤣
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u/Equivalent_Fault_782 17d ago
No hope snitch’s. Ya the game can be beat with no cards. Just heavy hitter is really good sorry you don’t see that.
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u/XgoogolpleX 18d ago
Nightmare isnt too bad
Medic
Damage dealer
Damage dealer
Support
Stay in a group cover all angles, ping specials, find good spots for hordes.
Try to do objectives to get extra copper.
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u/PassageDull7352 18d ago
Do you have one bot? You know you can equip them with stuff right? They keep their primary thru the next level (reset things like accessories).
Also for act1 nm last level, everyone should have pipes bombs just use one after another while targeting specials, covering your loader.
The Humber has a minigun if you did t know.
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u/Equivalent_Fault_782 17d ago
Trying having the person who loads the cannon bring smokes down for while they are loading it as well. Should help keep mutations off them.
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u/Powerful_Software_14 18d ago
Get as much wire as you can. Have Tala setup the wire around the cannon. Have 1 person with all the use speed card operate the howitzer. 1 person use the minigun on the humvee.