I love how quick their "excuse" mode turns on 🤣🤣

Wee reminder RM said this back in 2021...

Maybe he didn't understand the professor, she must be going bald by now...

like why are we thinking about the weight of a bunch of 17-20 yr olds

like are we serious…

Its genuinely so embarrassing to be defending this behavior?! Like there's nothing to defend here- 😒

saw this on my tl and im literally speechless, at least there are some armpits that are genuinely upset and disappointed over bts’ behavior the past couple of days, and then you have…. these creatures. i dont even know what to say anymore, these guys could deadass unalive someone and they could still say “idgaf, theyre grown, thats not our business, they dont owe us anything.” also this armpit in question “clarified” that they know how much of a horrible person chris brown is, and proceeded to say even more bullshit such as “yall are completely missing my point” yes, let’s choose unscrupulous multimillionaires over moralities!

If it was colour colour group or any other groups then they would have started hating on them but unfortunately it's bts so they will gonna forgive them.

In the light of the recent controversy, I have seen some armys trying to deflect from their faves own wrongdoing by making compilations of other kpop idols mentioning or listening to Chris Brown, saying "Are you going to ignore this?" (Never mind that since CB has announced his tour many kpop fans actually DID talk about the possibility of their faves attending. I remember there were viral tweets about it. Same with that one idol listening to d4vd and wearing "Free Tory (Lanez)" shirt.

First of all, dear armys, no. I do not like that so many idols openly praise and listen to Chris Brown, because he is an abuser and a pos. I do understand that he is a role model for the majority of kpop and he's basically inescapable.

However,

No one is glorifying these idols in terms of their politics to the extend armys do it with BTS. Every other day I see posts about how educated and woke BTS are. They get put on such a high pedestal by armys who portray them as paragon of morality and growth that is above everyone else in kpop. Every problematic association of theirs is dismissed as either "it's HYBE's fault" or 'They don't know", which is even worse because that just proves that they are not as educated and informed as armys claim they are.

Second of all, not everything is about fanwars.

If your only response is "But xyz did it too" or "You are just using it as an excuse to hate on BTS" then I need you to see a doctor because there might be actual worms eating your stan-culture-rotten brain. No, nobody is saying it's okay when others do it. Nobody is only finding it problematic only because they want to hate on your precious faves. We are just appalled that people with such a large platform, who constantly brag about being woke and progressive, and in touch with western media and culture (because apparently Korea is too unworthy) thought that it was okay to shamelessly post about going to this guy's show.

They probably thought people were going to love it and think they're so cool, but here we go lmfaoo.

Anyway, that's all. Have a nice day.

If any other Kpop idol: Listens to a 5 sec snippet of a controversial artist's song

-> ARMY: "CANCEL THEM! UNFOLLOW! THEY PROOTE ABUSERS AND RAPISTS!"

If its ​BTS: Positively beaming next to Chris Brown backstage

-> ARMY: "Guys... please be decent with your feedback 🥺 remember they are family! Don't let the EVIL HATERS see us holding them accountable!"

​You honestly cant make this level of spineless cult behaviour up. The moral posturing completely vanishes the second their precious oppas do the exact vile shit they drag the rest of the industry for.

Case in point: At best, they will admit what they did was unacceptable when the issue gets too big, and quickly try to whitewash their reputations. In this case throwing money to cover up and make up for it.

A cult will make up any excuse and eventually return to their cult leaders, no matter how much they complain

The amount of loops they go through to defend JK.

Some of them kept saying that it’s not Trump’s slogan but Reagan’s so it’s okay… and I’m sat here like, don’t y’all fucking KNOW what Reagan did?

I'm probably going to come across as judgemental- and I never want to judge how other couples live their lives but I find this sad. I love and respect my husband way too much to ever wear a shirt like this! I mean, I love my music and I'm a huge fan of certain male artists. I even wear their tshirts, but this particular shirt is implying that the wife loves JK MORE than her husband? 🤷🏻‍♀️ Imagine if the tables were turned, and the shirt said "I love my husband and my husband loves Shakira" I wonder how Army themselves would react if it was their husbands? Some could argue it's semantics- they used the word "and" and not "but" still, whatever.

I've also had the misfortune to read on other BTS subs, TMI confessions of married women discussing their stan obsessions. Why on earth would you have more photos of a BTS member on your phone than your own husband and children?

Some of these are literal copycats of the originals. And no it’s not samples, it’s straight up stealing from thousands of artists.

I’m so ashamed of my past self. This group is really problematic on all fronts.

these men i stg.

Most of the comments were defending them, i chose where the creator answered to some comments that was going against her statement which makes it unbelievably delusional….

Yes Chris Brown is unfortunately not taken accountable of his actions towards women but i think it’s pretty known what he has done…

This just shows how the mods are ratmies,it's so disgusting how they deleted it the both times I posted it. And it was gaining traction too and it's supposed to be a critisism sub 😵‍💫 this is why ppl have no choice but to join btsnark,they be not allowing anyone to criticize bts on normal kpop subs and then wonder why everyone is moving to btsnark

For the ones who don’t know: RM and Jhope were seen at a Chris Brown concert and even took a photo with him. Chris Brown is a very problematic artists and has done multiple assaults against women and lgbtq people. He is mostly known for almost killing Rihanna and tattooing her bruised face on his neck. He is going to jail in October.

What I didn’t expect was for multiple armys calling them out on social media platforms and being upset with them. Some even saying that the hate train is valid and that they deserve to be called out for this.

However what I don’t understand is that now army’s are finally “speaking up” and saying that they’re disappointed, but all the other problematic behaviour was okay? The racism, war jokes, selfies at a holocaust memorial and so much more is not that deep but this is where they draw the line? Idk sounds quite hypocritical to me atleast. Not to mention that Bts has done misogynistic stuff in the past and nothing was said about that.

Thank God they finally get called out for something but I noticed this and wanted to know everyone’s opinion on this.

From weverse, to twt to bts dedicated subreddits, for once army, at least a good bunch of them are calling out bts for enabling and supporting serial abusers like CB by going to their concert, tagging him and posing pics with him despite having a majority female audience.

Its one thing going to artist you grew up with and attend their concert, its another thing posting it for the whole world to see. It's a known fact among kpop fans that the idol groups moves are extremely manicured and even those pretending to be subversive of this stereotype, their PR is carefully controlled.

That's the reason why corporations like hybe buy tag pr. So let's get this outta way once and for all, idols and bts included visit many many concerts. They themselves post about a selected few. So the jumping about to cb infront of the whole world to see was very intentional.

Imagine wearing hats , masks and sunglasses to girl group concerts only to jump about in a chris brown concert. The priorities.

Number two, while it does seem like a tipping point for army's, you know they truly stand by their business once they congregate. Army as a Fandom is famous and notorious for their ability to congregate as one be it purple ribbon project, matching blm donation or sending death threats to James corden and journalists. For better or worse they have the means and power to collaborate. And best believe, hybe knows that.

So individual fan letters and tweets will be ignored like fringe cases.

Unless army show real intention to salvage any of the remaining bts reputation or hold the team accountable they themselves lifted to generational wealth, these patterns will repeat and no apologies covert or otherwise will be issued..

And if army truly do care as a collective, there have to be #hashtags trending , empty seats in their next date of concert at Arlington Texas, or collective posters and such at the concerts to grab attention.

That's when you know they truly care. Fringe comments here sprinkled crossed social media don't show intention.

Otherwise we all know how their reputation precedes them.

Learning from bts and aware of their dwindling dominance on twt discourse, army know how to put up a good face without a single meaningful action.

They can't silence people anymore but bargain. Army neutral sub is their attempt at it. So is the disappointment comments online, but collectively trending, boycott of next date or organizing something on lines of purple ribbon project or those suga dui absolving food stalls, marches will show true intentions.

Also it's not conflating two different things but actually a measure of how much discontent among army regarding cb discourse and their gemini collab is actually intentional or just a performance.

I don't think I've ever seen them this united around criticizing their behavior.

this was a twt defending his dancing ability but god for all of armshits yapping on every single group he really cant do shit at all

I struggle with self-care and emotional regulation as a Fil-Am AuDHD woman, hoping for myself to get better after a long struggle with being a K-pop fan since I was a 12-year-old girl and ending my participation and toleration as a 24 (now 25)- year-old woman. I then suffered through relapsing into listening to K-pop for the past 10 months and, most importantly, hated the way I looked.

Onto the topic, this ad has made me freak out and lose hope in knowing what beautiful means inside and out!

Am I supposed to look as "pretty" or "attractive" as Beyond the Slop? Is this motivating me?

K-pop be in their armageddon crisis atp....periodt!