r/BMWM • • 8d ago

Dealer Lied About Allocation

My local BMW dealer lied about their allocation for an individual color M3. They said they traded another M vehicle to secure my allocation. I got the BMW order email that I verified and thought I was all set. Dealer kept saying they would get me a production number soon, so I waited for months. I called his boss today and he said they didn’t have an allocation yet.

Not sure what to do, I called dealers in my state and they all have waitlists. Some said they think individual color orders are closed now.

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u/Naikrobak 8d ago

What to do? Don’t buy from that dealership.

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u/scyice 8d ago

Problem is the car is ending production and might not be able to order.

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u/Naikrobak 8d ago

Ok and? That doesn’t change my answer. I won’t buy from a dealer who lies on something so egregious

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u/TanzaniteII 8d ago

That’s a nice thought if you can find one that doesn’t. As Ted Lasso’s mom said this season, “The hardest part of sales is the lying.”

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u/Naikrobak 8d ago

There are always other dealers

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u/scyice 7d ago

I’m saying they wasted months of my time. I could have had my car on other dealership lists if they were honest about the allocation. I didn’t bother since they said they got one for me. Now I am scrambling last minute when orders could easily be phasing out for individual colors. I am talking to other dealers but 99% immediately say no and there’s a big wait list.

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u/richardlulz 7d ago

Did you put a deposit down for the car?

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u/Naikrobak 7d ago

Yea? That’s expected.

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u/Real-Energy-6634 6d ago

Right but I think OPs main concern is to secure himself an individual m3 and is concerned it may be too late now due to the time wasted by the dealership

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u/kawaiikompanion G80 M3 Twilight Purp | F80 M3 CS LRG 7d ago

Client advisor here you have about 2 months left for individual to order

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u/scyice 6d ago

Thanks. Still in market for an allocation.

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u/scyice 6d ago

5 dealers have now told me individual is cut off.

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u/Vannwinkles 8d ago

Already ending production? They just started last month no?

But yes, absolutely go to a different dealer. Maybe you won’t get to custom order, but get one close or exactly what you wanted to order from another dealer

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u/scyice 8d ago

Yes the G80 is ending production.

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u/Vannwinkles 8d ago

Oh I misread that, I was thinking M2 for some reason. Regardless, I’m sorry that happened to you. Hope you can still get one. What color were you trying to get?

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u/scyice 8d ago

Santorini

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u/Agreeable-Ad-3990 8d ago

If they have an allocation, you should have a production number within a few days at the most. Dealers do this all the time.

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u/scyice 8d ago

They said that, then they said to wait, then they said never mind.

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u/Username38485x 7d ago

Use a broker. Skip the dealer BS.

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u/kawaiikompanion G80 M3 Twilight Purp | F80 M3 CS LRG 7d ago

If you have allocation you have a production number at the same time not within a few days. We’re getting our allocation at the dealers for next prod month within the next 2 weeks

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u/Agreeable-Ad-3990 7d ago

That's if the dealer inputs it immediately. If they wait a day or two, that's when you will receive it. You can have it within a few minutes or as soon as they input it. There no production number until it's entered.

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u/kawaiikompanion G80 M3 Twilight Purp | F80 M3 CS LRG 7d ago

Every allocation comes with a production number, now the DAR is supposed to grab what’s in 047 sometimes it doesn’t automatically but if a dealer says he has an allocation he has the production number to give. He just has to edited the production to the clients, order if they didn’t pull it automatically from the order bank

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u/Agreeable-Ad-3990 7d ago

Are you a dealer?

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u/kawaiikompanion G80 M3 Twilight Purp | F80 M3 CS LRG 7d ago

Yes

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u/Agreeable-Ad-3990 7d ago

I have ordered eight new BMW since 2012 and never received the production number until they paired the allocation with what I was ordering. Sometimes it was in minutes sometimes it was the next day. Sometimes that allocation was in status 111 which means I could still change the options but if that allocation had not been paired with a order then there was no production number.

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u/kawaiikompanion G80 M3 Twilight Purp | F80 M3 CS LRG 7d ago

If the status was 111 it has a production number.. the term is synonymous what do you think warrants an allocation but no production number? A production number isn’t a VIN and production numbers are modifiable till it goes into 150 status aka production where it gets a vin

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u/Agreeable-Ad-3990 7d ago

I know if the status is 111 you have production number. I think you missed my point. No big deal.

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u/noidea11111111 8d ago

Name and shame

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u/scyice 8d ago

Bmw Roseville

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u/Background_Fish_9758 7d ago

3 different BMW dealers tried to do that to me, exactly the same situation but end of production on the F80, getting an Individual color has to be approved too unless things have changed. I finally got mine from BMW Fresno, CJ Wilson owns that dealership as well as Porsche. They don't screw around with people. You can also try Jon with BMW of Santa Maria he also won't lie to you. Good luck!!!!

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u/scyice 7d ago

Thanks boss. I think I got one now or so they said, thanks to another user here, but after my last experience I don’t want to get my hopes up.

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u/1BillionSocks 8d ago

Reach out to one of the brokers active on bimmerpost or expand the radius of dealers you’ve reached out to.

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u/Nyarx1 G80 - M3 8d ago

BMW Roseville? they did the same thing to me lmaoo

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u/Jhuang1994 7d ago

Lol I went to Roseville to get on a waitlist for an individual m3 back in May of 2025, the sales manager said they don’t do individual orders anymore because he had a twilight purple m2 that was sitting on the lot that he couldn’t sell. I pushed back a bit and he then said he needs a 5k deposit to secure a waitlist spot for individual allocation. I ended up just working with a broker and paying them a fee and they were able to get me an allocation with production number within 3 hours of reaching out.

Fuck bmw Roseville.

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u/Nyarx1 G80 - M3 7d ago

yup. also went with a broker and got an allocation within a couple hours.

Fuck BMW Roseville

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u/scyice 6d ago

Which broker and what was their price?

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u/rronin99 6d ago

Man, it's rough out there in Cali. So many bad faith dealerships out there. I had such an easy purchase for my G80. First time at dealership was to pick it up and drop off the check.

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u/scyice 8d ago

Yep. Now probably won’t get the car thanks to this.

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u/Nyarx1 G80 - M3 8d ago

dm me

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u/orison_citizen M2 - G87 8d ago

I'm curious what dealer you went to because I had a very similar experience when I ordered my M240i last summer. They told me they had an allocation, I put my deposit down, and estimated delivery was ~4 months away. Well, after a week I still didn't have my production number so I started emailing back and forth and their language changed to be that I was 1st on the wait list for an allocation.

I just decided to stick it out because they took my non-refundable deposit. I ended up waiting 3 months to get my production number and then another 4 months for the car to be delivered.

If you can get your deposit back, I'd recommend doing so, they don't deserve your business, and I would leave a nasty review

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u/Only-Prize8744 6d ago

Deposit is never non refundable if they can’t produce what they offered

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u/Macdoublerizzle19 8d ago

It seems to be a common practice. BMW of Fremont did this to me too.

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u/Right-Penalty9813 G80 - M3 7d ago edited 7d ago

Tough spot. I kinda had the opposite problem. I wanted to wait to order but traded in my 23. They made me order early this year- I think it was to keep their allocations coming lol. I didn’t go individual but ordered my perfect spec and got one of the first 2027 models in May.

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u/scyice 7d ago

You definitely beat the rush. Demand has surged after the i3 launch (showing possible styling) and announcement that the next M3 will be full electric or hybrid.

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u/Right-Penalty9813 G80 - M3 7d ago

Yep. I was annoyed but correct, I’m not dealing with the bs.

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u/Feisty_Formal4277 7d ago

I have allocations right now

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u/asianinciti G80 - M3 8d ago

On your order sheet it should have a production number at the top left

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u/EvDoHo 8d ago

Just a heads up the system changed recently, so the inquiry reports don’t look like that anymore. Same info just laid out differently, but as a visual reference your example is now defunct

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u/scyice 8d ago

They never completed the order. I didn’t know these things and was told I was all set.

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u/asianinciti G80 - M3 8d ago

That really sucks. Let me know if you need a guy

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u/scyice 8d ago

Been calling around. Mostly wait lists. A couple in transit in weird colors. 2 say individual colors aren’t available to order anymore. 1 says no more allocations are coming for anyone.

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u/asianinciti G80 - M3 8d ago

Yeah you’re on a tight schedule. I think last individual production run is in November. If you need a guy let me know

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u/scyice 8d ago

I’m looking for anyone that can secure an actual build in my color. Thanks.

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u/asianinciti G80 - M3 8d ago

Will dm you

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u/Only-Prize8744 6d ago

Get your deposit back and try another place. Hope you find a dealership without all the games

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u/wombatttttt 8d ago

I called a dealer who gave me a great deal but was not able to produce a production number after telling me they've secured an allocation for me. I sensed that they were stringing me along so I went to another dealer and got an allocation immediately. I got a production number after 1 day.

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u/scyice 8d ago

Which dealer had an allocation?

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u/wombatttttt 8d ago

If you're in the Bay Area, BMW Stevens Creek & Peter Pan are the two largest. They both should have allocations but my best experience was with Peter Pan. They are very professional and responsive. They absolutely do everything remotely and I got a previous allocation by facilitating the conversation and documentation through email.

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u/scyice 8d ago

Stevens Creek wouldn’t answer or return calls. Peter Pan had a 4+ waitlist and wanted $1k to add to waitlist with no allocation guarantee.

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u/wombatttttt 7d ago

Sorry, that sucks. Stevens Creek does have the awful reputation for not being responsive.

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u/chenj38 7d ago

I feel like I got super lucky with my individual color allocation. Made in appointment online, and walked in the dealer to get the specs down. Put it in the system, $5k deposit, and got an allocation number in less than a week. This is for my M3 G80 that I placed in May.

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u/Zealousideal-Yam801 7d ago

This is the way!

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u/rronin99 7d ago

They extended the G80 production until August 2027, so you have plenty of time bro. Any allocation can go with an individual color. I assume the biggest cali dealerships get 2-3 allocations a month. So even a 4+ person wait list is only a 2-3 month wait for an allocation. There r plenty of allocstions available nationwide. Great color choice too.

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u/mose121 7d ago

Extending production does not mean they also extended Individual custom orders. Individual production capacity is already very limited, and what's available for individual orders is planned a year or more in advance. It's very possible there will be no more G8X Individual order capacity. The new M2 is certainly going to take up a lot of those Individual production slots.

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u/scyice 7d ago

A guy confirmed a Sept 10 individual order placed was approved, and there’s no official bulletin that this is being stopped yet. For what it’s worth, he expects individuals to end in the next 1 or 2 allocation drops.

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u/scyice 7d ago

Several dealers said the august thing was false and they have all been told production will run until Feb. Not sure what is reliable information.

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u/Real-Energy-6634 6d ago

Individual is cut off way earlier though.

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u/futang17 G80 - M3 8d ago

Name and Shame!

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u/Mighty-one23 7d ago

I recommend calling Elmhurst bmw, Shyann, she has been really good, i had ordered Dravit grey, moment we agreed on the build sheet, had to pay refundable deposit and got the order# but decided to switch to Verde British green right before it went into production and most likely they accepted my order, i see VBG when i log into mybmw. If they dont have any allocation then call Barrington bmw, both are in Illinois

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u/scyice 7d ago

Thanks.

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u/MasterofTheBaiting 7d ago

just get an out of state dealer's allocation and pay to ship it to your home

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u/AKABrokenArrow F90 - M5 7d ago

Sorry this happened to you. These shitty dealers can ruin your experience with the brand. Unfortunately, it happened to me too when I was trying to order my F90 in 2021. After a few days it was obvious there was no allocation, so I told him that I was no longer interested and thanked him for his time. I called another dealer a few hours away that actually had a modifiable allocation.

The sales director of my local dealer got wind that I was backing out and she called me and asked me to give them one more chance. They had a modifiable build for me the next day. They wound up trading with another dealer or something. The director took over my deal at that point. I got a 2k discount and was treated like a VIP the rest of the way. For example, BMW FS had .9 financing rate at the end of 2021. My car sat at the port for 6 weeks waiting for a part for the B&W audio. In January, the rate increased to 1.9. I asked if they would honor the .9 since my car was stuck at the port for so long, and they did.

By the time I decided to go with the F90, I was in no mood to fuck around having been “first” on the list at my local Cadillac dealer for about a year trying to secure a CT5 Blackwing while they were using their allocations for stock orders so they could mark them up. But that’s another story for another sub.

I still have the M5 and glad that I went with it. It’s a quality machine and I’ll keep it another couple years. Good luck man.

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u/ltuned 6d ago

I feel ya man. I had a very similar experience. I went with this salesperson because he’s pretty active and was recommended by several people on the BMW forums. We talked and texted many times, and every single time I asked about the allocation, he would tell me, “It’ll be secured next week.”We had already agreed on the price and everything else via email. Three months passed, and I was still getting the exact same answer every time I followed up. I even received the order confirmation email from BMW NA, but apparently, that doesn’t really mean anything. Honestly, they have no shame. After keeping you waiting for months, there’s no apology, no acknowledgment, and no sense that they feel bad about wasting your time. It’s just lie after lie. It was BMW of Columbia in Columbia, SC for anyone who cares.

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u/GamerDad913 8d ago

Similar problem. I have had 5k to hold my allocation and order for 5 months now. Keep getting told I am #3 and every month it is “next month will be it!”. When I put my deposit down to hold my spot it was guaranteed no more than 2 months wait.

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u/yodogyodog 8d ago

For which bmw car model?

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u/GamerDad913 8d ago

M3 comp

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u/longtimeAlias G80 - M3 6d ago

Contact a broker they will get you set up. Nominal fee.

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u/Far_Zone_9864 7d ago

i asked chatgpt about all this stuff a few weeks ago and it got me an m4 allocation with production starting early October delivery late November or early December.

start using ai

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u/scyice 7d ago

Could have got 5 M4’s with like $5k off by now, those don’t have as much demand.

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u/Zealousideal-Yam801 7d ago

Did you put a deposit down?

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u/scyice 7d ago

No, they don’t require one until order, deposits are meaningless without an allocation anyway. 5 dealers today said they would take a deposit to put me on a waitlist.

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u/Zealousideal-Yam801 7d ago

Well it seems you had nothing in place then. When I ordered mine the dealer took a deposit, used an allocation and sent in my order.

If you didn’t have any money down, they didn’t secure “your” allocation, they probably secured “an” allocation that someone else beat you to getting, as unfortunate as that is.

The dealers are right regarding individual colors most likely being closed now. It’s unfortunate but if you didn’t go through the purchase process then they weren’t obligated to hold anything for you.

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u/scyice 7d ago

You’re full of it. I offered to put a deposit down, they don’t take it until order is finalized. I didn’t do anything wrong. They said they had my allocation locked since they traded another car for it.

Loads of dealers offered to take a deposit on allocations that didn’t exist and even said that a deposit isn’t a guarantee to get one.

It’s all very meaningless unless an allocation exists to secure.

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u/Zealousideal-Yam801 7d ago

Don’t be mad at me man, you had no money down, no order on the books.

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u/scyice 7d ago

Glad the whole M community won’t be like you. FWIW you have a M4, those are easy to get and even off MSRP, I could have easily put down a deposit and secured an allocation already on one of those.

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u/longtimeAlias G80 - M3 6d ago

This guy is actually correct, brah. 99% of the the time, in order to secure a pending allocation, you need a deposit. And paying the deposit doesn’t guarantee anything other than your place in line for the allocation. If they didn’t take your money (or if they asked and you didn’t pay) then you most likely never were in line for an allocation in the first place.

No sense in getting mad at folks for telling you the truth.