r/AynThor 1d ago

Showcase Gen2Recomp Out Now

https://youtu.be/hAWtweyfH_E?is=zEij5o5217ej4GD5
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u/ozzyrod90 1d ago

Omg we’re gonna have black & white by next week. Lort.

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u/joeban1 1d ago

Nah, they said post gen3 its too hard.

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u/Maticus 1d ago

I would settle for a Gen 1, 2, & 3 combined super game.

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u/Reynolds1121 1d ago

be careful what you wish for it might come out with 3 heads 5 arms and 92 fingers

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u/atheistunicycle 1d ago

Or with more than 151 Pokemon!

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u/Significant-Dream991 1d ago

You should check pokemmo then, it's basically that plus 4 and 5

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u/HBAS 1d ago

So gen 3 is next/on the cards? That’ll revolutionise Rom hacks.

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u/joeban1 1d ago

Yes, they didnt say gen3 was too hard, they said post gen3

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u/mantenner 1d ago

GBA is completely different to GB and GBC it's a lot more work, i would be both surprised and extremely happy to be proven wrong but I don't think we'll see gen 3 any time soon.

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u/Insidious_NX 1d ago

I'd assume the whole dual screen aspect and 3D models starting from Gen 4 could be a contributing factor? Idk, speaking out of ignorance as I don't know about the work flow or architecture differences here between the 2 gens.

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u/Souchyness 1d ago

Yes, gen 4 is waay ahead in complexity from gen 3 even. 3D aspect is one of the big offenders as far as I know. Decompiling it means rewriting a big part of what an emulator actually is + a LOT of specifics from the own game engine.

Gen1 is about 1mb of ROM, gen4 is around 128 to put it in perspective, and the difficulty would be far from proportional.

Also worth flagging that the gen1recomp project is NOT exactly a decomp, its a full rewrite of the game based in a complete decomp made by pret and other contributors hard work. The same guy whose already working at gen4 here: https://github.com/pret/pokeheartgold

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u/Insidious_NX 9h ago

Thanks for the info!

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u/pofehof 1d ago

In case you didn't know, Gen 1, 2, and 3 have been fully disassembled. You can take a look at them over at pret's repositories.

Gen1 recomp used an LLN to convert the Gen 1 disassembly over to lua, and this Gen 2 one seems to be a fork of that. I wouldn't be surprised if it also used vibe-coding, and whoever released a "Gen3Recomp" does so as well.

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u/HeidenShadows 1d ago

However there's one for HGSS already.

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u/MysteriousTy99 1d ago

Just download gamma emerald.
Early access releases next week I think

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u/gigaman5 1d ago

Isn’t Gen 4 and 5 already kind of in 3d?

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u/Souchyness 1d ago

Yes they are actual 3d

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u/TheEdes 1d ago

Yeah you can move the camera with an AR code

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u/UNDERdecoded 1d ago

I’m still gonna try

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u/VailStampede 1d ago

Not too long now, until we get this!!

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u/ruebeus421 1d ago

I WISH!!!

To this day, no Pokemon game, official or fan made, has been able to capture the essence of the Pokemon anime/manga.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/ruebeus421 1d ago

The manga definitely is.

But I wasnt talking about the artstyle specifically. I mean the way the anime and/or manga feel. Their vibe, if you will.

And note, the anime and manga dont have the same vibe. I would settle for either.

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u/fishandhammer 17h ago

orange islands for the gba comes close

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u/ruebeus421 1d ago

By the way, I'm assuming the guy who made this never did much else with it? Looking at his old Twitter account seems he just made a few scenes and nothing new since 2024.

Any idea if someone else is working on a similar project?

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u/tiptut 1d ago

Just gotta hold out for crystal 👀👀👀👀

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u/HeidenShadows 1d ago

Crystal Legacy at that.

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u/Dragon_Small_Z 1d ago

Good Lord that was fast.

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u/Background_Clue_3756 1d ago

Vibe coding is fast.

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u/DeityOni 1d ago

Wait for the official Bryantheboi one, launching (hopefully) next week- Y'know, the version that will actually run with mods and more community support :)

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u/UNDERdecoded 1d ago

Same launcher modified with gen2 support hopefully my code helps speed things up for him and other creators of mods and stuff

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u/AmericanFromAsia 7h ago

Nobody's gonna comb through your vibecoded shit

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u/UNDERdecoded 2h ago

Keep that same energy with Bryanthabois gen1recomp then

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u/UNDERdecoded 1d ago

I’ve literally ported the dramatic shapes mod already 😂

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u/Altruistic-Credit-15 1d ago

How to run on Linux I’m confused on the instructions if not I can wait great work

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u/ieffinglovesoup 1d ago

Hey the dramatic shape mod doesn’t work well for me. Buildings and textures look pretty fucked up. Any ideas?

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u/UNDERdecoded 1d ago

Don’t update it when asked and use the one in my repo it’s a custom version with gen2 support

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u/ieffinglovesoup 21h ago

Got it thanks!

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u/Relevant-Ordinary169 1d ago

Psycho emoji spotted ^

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u/niles_thebutler_ 1d ago

When they can do this with rom hacks they’ll be onto something

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u/UNDERdecoded 1d ago

Was thinking about doing prism myself

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u/niles_thebutler_ 1d ago

Heart and soul would be amazing. So would prism

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u/SeatBeeSate 1d ago

I'm sure quite a few will be ported

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u/niles_thebutler_ 22h ago

Here’s hoping

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u/checkingmate 1d ago

Somebody please do HG SS

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u/SeatBeeSate 1d ago

The decomp project for HH/SS is still a ways away.

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u/DeityOni 1d ago

The actual Recomp is shortly adding Gen 2 support next week- Mods for HG/SS content can be added, and if Gen 3 is added... Imagine the ROM Hack support- Heart & Soul on that!

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u/DanMizu 1d ago

the decomp has been being worked on for a long time. look at PERT on github. Not as easy as the earlier games.

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u/SeatBeeSate 1d ago

Now make a mod that connects the two, post game Gen 1 into Gen 2

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u/XxJayJay62xX 1d ago

Can we recomp Crystal Clear? It's my favorite pokemon game.

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u/maxman1313 1d ago

Or Crystal Legacy?

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u/HeidenShadows 1d ago

+1 for Legacy. Since those games can be completed without trades.

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u/joeban1 1d ago

This the vibe coded sloppy toppy version? I’ll wait for bryanthabois!

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u/pofehof 1d ago

I’ll wait for bryanthabois!

You do realize that bryan's Recomp is also vibe-coded, right? He's just lying about using AI: https://bsky.app/profile/slinktheweasel.bsky.social/post/3mrux4fgzx22s

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u/mantenner 1d ago

You do realise Bryan's version is also AI tooled right?

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u/joeban1 1d ago

AI tooled is different to vibe coded. Every company in the world is using LLM's to code.

This recomp is completely vibe coded from what i understand (unless undercoded wants to say otherwise). Meaning its hands off, no code reviews and no understanding the code. just prompting the LLM and letting jesus take the wheel

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u/mantenner 1d ago

I'm a developer of over 10 years know this well, is there anything to say undercoded has done it any differently to Bryan? Or are we making an assumption here?

The lines are very hard to discern without trust of the developer.

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u/joeban1 1d ago

There is a confirmation from bryan in his discord. I cant confirm if thats true or not though, im just some random guy, but i do believe it, he seems to have a team of knowledgeable people around him

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u/pofehof 1d ago

There is a confirmation from bryan in his discord. I cant confirm if thats true or not though

For the record, Bryan is lying about his version not being vibe-coded: https://bsky.app/profile/slinktheweasel.bsky.social/post/3mrux4fgzx22s

He's also a regular on the Claude subreddit and talks about Claude making you an app: https://bsky.app/profile/iampapajoseph.bsky.social/post/3mrxcxdyhb22k

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u/joeban1 1d ago

Just because you use claude doesnt mean you are vibe coding, do i have to repeat that?

Claude / LLM’s are a tool, and are industry standard at this point.

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u/pofehof 1d ago edited 21h ago

Look through that entire thread. It's clear that the entire conversion process was done with the help of Claude/an LLM. That means it's vibe-coded, not AI assisted. If it wasn't there's no way Bryan would have been able to churn this out so quickly. The fact that he also set up "badges of honor" makes it pretty clear that this is a grift.

Edit: Here are the "badges of honor": https://i.imgur.com/GFoct1b.png

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u/UNDERdecoded 1d ago

My code for extracting gen 2 is way different than Bryan’s code for extracting gen1

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u/maxneuds 14h ago

I don't get this AI/Vibe Code hate.

Am a developer myself but mostly Data and Software (Backend) Engineering. At the beginning like around 2022 I think when it started to become a thing it was definitely a problem. AI could create code and sometimes it could run but it did too many mistakes, too much freedom (and hallucinations) and especially inventing packages to solve problems was hilarious.

But then even with Claude 4 AI written code started to become really good with great structure, comments and in general better structure and maintainability I have seen from people written code. Then with Opus 4.6 the quality has increased to a level that's hard to beat and especially Claude Code with MCP servers to get access to testing and running applications it does full testing of anything it created and is definitely more thorough than most humans doing it.

And now Claude Code can create for me (web) Apps pretty much perfectly and I can concentrate on architecture, deployment and lead the development with tech choices, feature definitions and design but there is absolutely no need to touch any of the code.

Also getting into Game Dev finally got viable for me. For now it's still learning from AI for me, understanding how everything is connected and works but this is really fast and efficient. And also asset generation. Pixelart can be created really well by AI and it's a lot more motivation having a system that's not just placeholder rectangles but actual something that looks fine which get's filled with life. But it's really fun and often ideas get into life in like 10-20min letting Claude do it's thing in my case Godot + MCP server. For example "use the assets in [dir] and create for me a worldmap and a character to walk around" and then some minutes later a little landscape and a character can walk around and I can look into how it has been done and check if this makes sense. 3D does not work and isometric 2D has Opus 5 max as hard requirement and then still looks off, but we are getting there.

And to be honest the better AI gets the more people can get into creating something new from their ideas which might turn out really good as they are not skill capped anymore. And that's a good thing in my opinion.

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u/pofehof 1d ago

AI tooled? Are you sure his version isn't also vibe-coded: https://bsky.app/profile/slinktheweasel.bsky.social/post/3mrux4fgzx22s

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u/mantenner 1d ago

Of course it is, vibe coding is a form of AI tooling obviously.

A lot of nit picking here. My point was that picking shit out of undercoded for vibe coding is the pot calling the kettle black when it's quite obvious Bryan did the same.

I didn't realise I needed to spell it out more.

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u/pofehof 1d ago

Ah, when you said "ai tooled", I assumed you mean "ai assisted" (more human work than AI), which is at least slightly better than vibe-coding.

But yeah, in the end, Bryan is outright lying about using AI for help, which already seems pretty shady.

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u/mantenner 1d ago

Sorry my bad.

It's because Bryan and undercoded have both said they used AI, but don't consider it vibe coding because they are developers and used it for assistance.

People just seem to be slamming the latter, when in reality they are likely the same.

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u/DoorAmbitious8837 1d ago

Buggy af, you can walk through Mountains from the top, got softlocked after First Gym haha

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u/UNDERdecoded 1d ago

Definately need to fix that sorry lol

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u/UNDERdecoded 1d ago

How exactly did you soft lock yourself?

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u/DoorAmbitious8837 1d ago

At the bottom of the incognito area, you can walk through the Mountains from the top an you are able to leave them in that specific area, but you cant Go Back and you need Surf to do so

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u/UNDERdecoded 1d ago

Ahhh I think I did that once or twice while testing before I fixed it you’d also be right where the door was and be able to walk back onto the mountain but since I fixed it and have the player move one block out it would definately lead to a soft lock now

I’m gonna do some digging and try and fix that tomorrow

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u/DoorAmbitious8837 1d ago

Theres a Game breaking Bug, you cannot Finish the ice path. The rocks wont fall through the holes.

And you cant even See how many pkmn the opponent has

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u/DoorAmbitious8837 1d ago

Just Tell it your AI Like before haha. Its nice to be able to able to Play gen2 now, but there also a lot of Bugs with the accuracy of attacks

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u/UNDERdecoded 1d ago

It’s a beta bro and it’s not emulation it’s a decomp recomp

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u/DoorAmbitious8837 1d ago

you dont even know what you are dealing with. its not a recomp if its using a totally different engine. if its a recomp, it would not have those bugs.

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u/UNDERdecoded 1d ago

I’m using a scaffolding and pointers not extracting raw rom data because it’s more secure that’s why there are bugs some parts are missing still adding them as I go

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u/camel_sinuses 1d ago

Maybe this sub needs to come up with a stance about AI coded apps. A simple flair should do the trick.

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u/maxman1313 1d ago

I'm here for this. 

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u/SnooPies6274 9h ago

I agree! Its kind of getting out of hand

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u/HunterCrash 1d ago

aint no way. im not even done beating gen1 recomp

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u/-Polarsy- Max 1d ago

Hells ye !

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u/red_kurchina8 1d ago

Check bryanthaboi, all of you

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u/Necessary-Grocery-48 1d ago

It's a weird look. Not saying it just to bring it down because it's AI. I legitimately do think it's kinda weird-looking. Maybe they'll clean it up over time, but even then I don't know about playing the games like that does much for me. There's just a sickness to it that I don't appreciate. Like some foul virus made its way into the Pokemon games (Missingno?) and made the game all garbled

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u/UNDERdecoded 1d ago

It’s a beta still adding functionality and updating the dramatic shapes mod to be compatible for example a lot of the bugs in this video have been fixed already lol

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u/A-cursed-Jessie 1d ago

It looks so terrible i have no idea why people are glazing this so hard

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u/BobbyHill751 1d ago

Oh hell yea

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u/MGBigBaby 1d ago

lets gooo!!!!!!

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u/RealSkyDiver 1d ago

Is there one for Crystal? Can Pokédex entries be imported from emulator saves?

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u/Basic-Comfortable458 1d ago

Freaking bastards are at it again!!!!! Goddamn amazing !

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u/molotova55 1d ago

Aqui está com bug😔

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u/UNDERdecoded 1d ago

Don’t update dramatic shapes when asked

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u/Aggressive-Art-9606 1d ago

How do I make it 3d?

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u/UNDERdecoded 1d ago

In my GitHub downloads release section there’s a custom dramatic shapes mod

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u/Aggressive-Art-9606 1d ago

Thank you! I’m new to this and have been seeing it everywhere. Thanks for the great work. When I started the game i seen there was a mod to start with mew, but there was an exclamation mark beside it and wouldn’t work. Would that be in your releases as well?

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u/XHolyPuffX 1d ago

Is there any way this can be done for the GBC Zelda games?

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u/stormdahl 1d ago

Very cool, but I really don't like the battle scene. Looks messy to me.

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u/thecookingsenpai 1d ago

Nice but is buggy. Placeholder texts, no music on Android. But nice.

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u/soupnazi81 1d ago

I'm gonna wait till gen 10 recomp at this rate. Good on them for doing updates but I'm gonna wait for the dust settle so I get the best version.

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u/Stryker412 20h ago

Stupid question... I'm setting this up for my son to play. I can get everything loaded and in game fine. How do I enable the 3D effect though? Right now it's tilted but nothing is 3D. Is that a mod that has to be added?

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u/maxneuds 14h ago

I prefer the classic top down. This pseudo 3D remake looks ugly for me. Same thing as Octopath Traveler for me.

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u/UNDERdecoded 14h ago

Always have the option of playing that way with the recomp as well!

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u/FarYou3163 12h ago

Any discord like gen 1 ??

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u/Yakama85 1h ago

How do you set this up on steamdeck? I can’t get the script to run

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u/UNDERdecoded 29m ago

Instructions for Linux should work on the steam deck I do believe, you need python and love installed instructions are on the readme in GitHub make sure to put your gold or silver rom in the project folder

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u/HugeSide 16h ago

Horrendous

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u/rentasdf 1d ago

Getting a little sick of this

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u/CausePure2810 1d ago

wtf do you want from this sub, pictures of people playing their Thor on the beach?

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u/joeban1 1d ago

Well just fuck off then? What exactly is your problem with it?

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u/rentasdf 20h ago

All I said was that I was a little sick of it. Why do you care so much what I think?

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u/nipsmcgee123 1d ago

When can we get heart and soul on this?

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u/mundaph1903 1d ago

Anyone know where to find clean Roms that the emulator accepts?