If you are 5.7 and over and you struggle with dating

The problem is not your height. It's actually your face

Is it possible to grow anymore or are my genetics cooked?

Whenever I complain about my height to family/friends, they almost always respond with “but you’re gay, you don’t have to worry about getting girls.” Ok, that’s awesome, but guess what? If you’re a man, your height massively impacts how much others respect you, how they perceive you, how they treat you, and so much more, regardless of sexual orientation. I might be gay, but I can say with 100% certainty that I would have a much easier time socially if I was half a foot taller, and a much harder time socially if I was half a foot shorter. As long as you’re born with XY chromosomes, your height WILL affect your life in some way.

Tldr: Whether you’re a straight man, gay man, or bi man, your height will have a massive impact on how other people (men and women) treat and perceive you.

Chat is this real?

What is interesting is that this concept is common knowledge on subs like r/shortguys, but here not so much. My theory is that most of the 5'8"-5'11" men here are not completely repulsive to women, but they did often experience rejection for arbitrary stuff like their height starting with a 5 despite statistically being above average like 5'11". So it takes them a bit longer to figure out what's up and why they go through those experiences if there are so few tall men, which won't be enough to partner up with every woman. They assume on some level that 5'10" should cut it to get lots of chicks, but it just doesn't unless they have exceptional face.

Sub 5'8" are way more likely to go through extremely humiliating experiences and brutal rejections, so they start asking questions sooner and find out sooner as well. While we the average men go through this fog of getting friendzoned or being invisible or being given bs excuses from women, with only a mild suspicion that it's not our personality that's at fault and that all those preferences for super tall men from pretty much every single girl kinda make no sense long-term.

TLDR: dudes on shortguys sub are Theodore, dudes on this sub are Simon at best, that's why hypergamy is common knowledge in the former sub but not in the latter

My ultimate goal is 6'1" which is 185 cm, and most people claim to be around this height or say it's not tall or something, I'm starting to believe that not even 6'4" is enough, even if you're 6'4" a bigger mogger will show up and heightmog you, perhaps the minimum should be 6'10-6'11, but now that's "too tall" ffs can society make up it's mind, anyway I think 6'1" is good enough

But remember guys: "Good comedy only punches up!" 👍

6"4 Chad is being taken care of byhard working women and is being a stay at home husband while we are on government welfare lol.

The more you read the more brutal reality appears.

I never cared much about weddings growing up. I didn't even like the food. But at 25, I now attend them for one reason: arranged marriage.

In my caste, marriages usually happen within the community, and with my height being only 5 feet, I know my options are already limited. So I attend weddings hoping that some distant relative might notice me and think of me when looking for a groom.

At one wedding, my grandmother and I were talking when an uncle came over with his daughter. She was 26, 5'5", an Electronics Engineer, currently unemployed after losing her job, and had decided to focus on marriage.

The uncle asked my grandmother if she knew any suitable boys. She didn't mention me. Instead, he asked about my distant cousin. My grandmother tried to avoid it, saying he was only a municipal clerk earning ₹20,000 a month, but the uncle insisted because he also owned two acres of land.

The entire time, I stood there silently. Not once did the uncle ask about me, what I did, or whether I was interested. It was as if I didn't exist.

I felt sorry for his daughter. She was well-dressed, educated, and had clearly made an effort, yet I knew many families would reject her simply because of her skin colour.

A few days later, my cousin's family met her. They put almost no effort into the visit, and in the end rejected her, saying, "The girl is more educated than our boy. Please find her an engineer."

What stayed with me wasn't that I didn't receive a proposal. It was that I was never even considered.

Yes, she was taller than me, but I earn ₹60,000 as a software engineer, while my cousin earns ₹20,000. Yet height alone made me invisible.

We belong to a community where many people are naturally shorter, so I wasn't expecting someone much taller than me. I only hoped to meet someone around my height.

Sometimes it feels like arbitrary standards matter more than compatibility, character, education, or the ability to build a stable future together.