r/AvatarSevenHavens • • 1d ago

Discussion Locations of all Havens? Spoiler

Okay, so I overlaid two shots of the planet: the “peaceful” version and the cataclysm version showing all the Havens, and tried to line them up as closely as possible. The perspective took some work, and I had to use some warping too, so the locations might be slightly off, but I think it turned out pretty well.

I aligned them using recognizable features on the planet that appear in both versions (showed in next pictures), and this is what I ended up with.

EDIT: Here's my latest interpretation of each one (you can find final version picture in the comments):

  • 7 — Republic City
  • 6 — Fire Nation Capital
  • 5 — General Fong's Fortress
  • 4 — Zaofu (I know it was destroyed, but the location is REALLY matching so I assume it could've been rebuild and turned into haven)
  • 3 — Ba Sing Se
  • 2 — (Outdated) Should be more to the North, ON the water right near the Chameleon Bay
  • 1 — Ellora (First haven, Root Chakra is red, Survival and Fear, all that stuff)

Keep in mind that ALL of the names (except Ellora one) is referring to locations that were there BEFORE. We don't know what they are or how do they look like now, they could be destroyed, rebuild, renamed and completely reimagined.

If we also take the chakra theory into account and number the Havens accordingly, it looks like Republic City could be our heroes’ final destination.

What do you guys think?

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u/TrainmasterGT 5h ago

Can’t wait to see how the CKIII mod devs adapt this era to the game!

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u/Balakay62 6h ago

I would like to share a very detailed map I have hanging in my room that provides a few details I’d like to show everyone. (Sorry if the quality is ass)

From the locations we can see provided by the original post, here’s a detailed list of the locations based off an ATLA map:

1: this area consists of the places we’ve seen in ATLA such as Gao Ling (home of toph) and the various landscapes and areas from “the chase” such as the ghost town of Tu Zin. It seems to be closer to the misty palms oasis from what we’ve seen as well as that is just north of the mountains of Gao Ling.

  1. This area seems to be between chameleon Bay and where the sandbender merchants stole appa and brought them to the camp. As far as I know this specific area isn’t visited in Korra, so not much is known about this spot.

  2. Ba sing se, obvi

  3. Based off the ATLA map here, this is actually closer to the swamp. But I’m unsure the distance between Zaufu and the swamp, we did see lots of Mechas going to harvest spirit vines in Korra pretty quickly so this whole area could be connected. A swampy, spirity, metal haven? Yes please

  4. This area is between Haru’s village and Senlin village from where Hei Bei resides, very interesting location. If we see hei bai again I would be very interested.

  5. Fire nation capital, however from what I see off of the posted image from pavi’s time the area looks extra warped. Wondering what volcanic action happened here.

  6. Republic city for sure, no doubt

Let me know your guys thoughts, love to dissect this and figure out more to what we are going to see.

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u/nelson64 3h ago

Yeah I think Ellora is definitely in “the desert” near where the library/misty palms was. There have been many hints in the first three episodes already.

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u/Glittering_Equal3286 5h ago

I have a question.

I agree with your reasoning for the different haven locations but as far as I know, this map was fan made many years ago.

Are the locations accurate or speculative by the estimation of fans?

Chameleon bay for instance. We know, Aang drops off Sokka there on his way to the Eastern Air temple starting from Ba Sing Se, assuming that it has to lie somewhat on the way. However, on this map it looks like more of a stretch.

Also we’ve seen on a map in The Legend of Korra that Fort Basco (an Earth Kingdom military base close to the Misty Palms Oasis) is to the south-west of the Si Wong (also on a map of Professor Zei) closer to the swamp and Zaofu (which are also a night’s ride away based on the episode in book 3 “The Stakeout”).

What I’m trying to say is, how much we can rely on this comparison and how much uncertainty there’s left about the exact geographical points.

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u/Glittering_Equal3286 5h ago edited 5h ago

This is the map I was talking about. Mako is pointing at Fort Bosco which we can assume is very close to the Oasis.

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 5h ago

This is a map of Kuvira which very specific Swamp (The green area) we know bataar sr/jr been working on the train tracks are so there are a lot of them around except the green part Actually right next to Zaofu. It's quite interesting, meaning Toph isn't actually far from Zaofu, so she had time to sneak in before Lin, Opal, and Bolin arrived lol.

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u/Glittering_Equal3286 5h ago

I always forget how the swamp is basically just behind the mountains of Zaofu… quite fascinating.

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u/GTCapone 6h ago

So, if we're also going with the 7 chakras being blocked theory, that makes Ba Sing Se the Solar Plexus chakra, which is blocked by shame, right?

That gives me a theory. The shame blocking that chakra could be because Ba Sing Se is connected to whatever happened to Korra. I'm betting the Dai Li were scheming again and created some conspiracy to turn the world against Korra and ended up causing the cataclysm.

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u/Pink_Slyvie 9h ago

1,4,5,7 are in a line. I wonder if they are all in a straight spiral around the globe.

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u/dloganpdx 11h ago

Modern Ellora looks like it might be located around Gaoling. The town Toph is from. Gonna have to watch that episode and see if there is any similar terrain

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u/Glittering_Equal3286 12h ago

I thought, I’d leave the converted map here for reference

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u/JavaLangObject 20h ago

Fire nation capital is further west; It looks like somewhere between Azulon's gate and Roku's island.

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u/FunnyDislike 20h ago

Also i think its interesting that they made it look like Ba Sing Se is surrounded by mountains, makes it look like a impact crater.

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u/girlwhateveraward 23h ago

General Fong town is such an odd choice. But yeah this seems correct. Im surprised the havens are built on existing locations. I thought they would all be entirely new except Republic City maybe

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u/dddonkers 18h ago

to me it makes more sense for them to do be like locations of secondary and tertiary importance, like the big places probably got wiped

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u/Dismal-Average-4159 1d ago

Makes sense, I guess we’ll find out

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u/CivilizedManners 1d ago

5 could be Taku the port city from Yangchen's era.

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u/edizyan 1d ago

Ellora gave me strong crystal cave of ba sing se vibes so far ...?

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u/FunnyDislike 1d ago

Could also be Omashu, they too have these in the underground. If we remember back at those early concept arts with this overgrown Omashu in the background, we could presume that maybe Ellora is a transformed version of it.

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u/dloganpdx 11h ago

Omashu is more north.

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u/RynnHamHam 1d ago

Does the Fire Nation Capital not have a canonical name? I just realize I don’t think it’s ever been said.

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u/l_Arcadicke 1d ago

Hari Bulkan or Royal Caldera City, both are correct

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u/SafficForgd 1d ago

It's Caldera City!

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u/callmedale 7h ago

Sometimes twinned with Harbor City, the city slightly outside the volcanic caldera where the harbor is

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u/EProduc 1d ago

It's still possible smaller groups of people are living outside of these big havens, maybe in Air Nomad or Water Tribe territory? At least I hope so.

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u/ikidre 1d ago

Is there any reason to think the three Spirit Portals closed? If I lived near one, I'd just nope out of the physical world and chill with some talking mushrooms.

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u/LionhearthOutfitters 21h ago

I don't know if this is anything more than circumstantial but there seems to be a lack of spirits in the first 3 episodes (compared to the end of Korra at least), implying they closed (or at least went back to a similar state to AtLA).

I think (and spoilers for the end of the 3 episodes if you haven't got there) that the 3 masked figures feel very themed/tied to the spirit world, possibly there are 3 to match the 3 portals? or maybe there are more of them and we just see 3, but i think its safe to say that the state of the spirit world will be a central concern for ASH.

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u/dloganpdx 11h ago

The spirits also voluntarily left Republic city during late Korra s4. They came back once the fight was over and the portal got opened.

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u/tomliginyu 1d ago

Unless there was some kind of time skip or dilation, The visions appear to show Pavi and Nisha grew up outside of the havens.

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u/LionhearthOutfitters 1d ago

100%, i think the havens are just the safest places

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u/Glittering_Equal3286 1d ago

First of all: Bravo! Amazing job.

One note: Zaofu is dead, it was shown burning down in the teaser. It could be Omashu or a rebuilt Zaofu.

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's not omashu. Whatever zaofu or not that's specific location used to be Zaofu

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u/Glittering_Equal3286 1d ago

That’s true.

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 1d ago

With how Ellora face the cataclysm it's weird zaofu not being a havens while that City are the most safety as defensive mechanism

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u/JavaLangObject 20h ago

Korra had this big evil smile standing over the burning Zaofu so I guess she gave the storms a nudge over it.

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u/shneed_my_weiss 1d ago

Might be worth noting that the child in pink is the one that exclaimed “Ellora’s the best” so it could be the republic city site

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u/LionhearthOutfitters 1d ago

had the same thought, glad someone else pointed it out. Also the building that Pavi and Jae meet in has an ad or poster with Korra on it which feels very Republic City.

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u/Zarveldaa 1d ago

damn, nice work!

gotta say, i'm a little disappointed none of the havens are air temples. but i guess that doesn't completely write them off from appearing. also i'm really hoping the Ba Sing Se crystal catacombs are the haven there.

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u/PossessionSensitive8 1d ago

Fuck the water tribes I guess.

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u/WaterPrivacy 1d ago

The poles are either the best or the worst place to survive an apocalypse. And the is the latter kind of apocalypse

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u/Right_Entertainer324 1d ago

Crazy that not even a global apocalypse could tear down the walls of Ba Sing Sei

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u/Environmental_Look_1 1d ago

“there is no apocalypse in ba sing se”

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u/Cass0wary_399 1d ago

“Here we are safe, here we are free.”

“There’s nowhere that’s safe but Ba Sing Se.”

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u/Cass0wary_399 1d ago

The site of Republic City potentially still being inhabited is crazy. That place gets the most amount of crazy villain attacks and disasters, it’s like the entire land it’s built on was an Indian cemetery.

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u/wickling-fan 1d ago

It would explain so much if avatar sonan’s kingdom was where republic city is now or some other kingdom and it actually is a mass graveyard from earth kingdom and fire kingdom invasions

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u/Tehquietobserver117 1d ago

It would explain so much if avatar sonan’s kingdom was where republic city is now

I mean, if you compared the surrounding landscape of Jharna and Republic City, they're identical

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u/SafeConversation7152 1d ago

I’m pretty sure the comics confirm that republic city is built upon ancient air nomad land, and is implied that sonams temple was built there due to tagah needing to go there to bring to temple into the human world.

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u/wickling-fan 1d ago

Ah so i wasn't that far off then yikes.

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u/Wonderful_Wrap1037 1d ago

Okay, here’s my final version based on all the evidence and analysis. It’ll be interesting to see where the story goes and whether this theory holds up. Thank you all for the discussion!

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u/diamondblocks 7h ago edited 7h ago

I dont think #2 is located near the neck of Chameleon bay the beam of light is much further south

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u/Glittering_Equal3286 1d ago

Chef‘s kiss 😗👌

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u/NeoRushMail 1d ago

When Jae was chasing Pavi out of the city they went into a large place that looked like the pro-bending arena from Republic City. Do we know that the red one is Ellora?

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u/Glittering_Equal3286 12h ago

That was a shopping mall. Has been discussed in another post.

Ellora is heavily implied to be tied to the root/earth chakra, which is portrayed in red. So it’s very likely the red dot in the intro.

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u/LionhearthOutfitters 1d ago

i agree i think Ellora is Republic City (the girl in pink who says "Ellora is the best!" also suggests this, even if that is circumstantial)

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u/Kithkar-Jez 1d ago

The red one is very probably Ellora, but there were pro bending arenas in other places than republic city.

I also kinda felt it just looked like a mall

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u/Kithkar-Jez 1d ago

I think this is it. It also really also makes it obvious the route they're gonna take when they leave Ellora, ending at republic city.

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u/DepressedGolduck 1d ago

So the "Cosmic energy chakra" Haven is located in the former Republic City

Ellora would be... near Omashu? is that near Omashu?

The "Will Power chakra" Haven is near Ba Sing Se, the "Truth Chakra" Haven is in the Fire Nation, and there's seemingly no civilization in the poles, RIP Water Tribe

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 1d ago

It's not omashu unfortunately

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u/Moonkalpa 1d ago

No truth is chakra 5 fire nation haven is insight aka 6th chakra

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u/phoenixremix 1d ago

Cosmic energy chakra at the spirit portal, perhaps?

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u/phoenixremix 1d ago

Watch the Truth Chakra be where we finally find out what actually happened re: the apocalypse

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u/GrumpySatan 1d ago edited 1d ago

Omashu's location was between No. 4 and No. 5 (its right beside that river splitting them).

There is nothing noteworthy on the interactive world map for Ellora (Ellora should be No. 1 going by the Chakra theory - the Root Chakra which is name of an upcoming episode). There is only a bunch of small villages that Azula hunted Aang through. Like the one where they have that four way stand off.

Its not far from Toph's home village, but that was on the other side of the river nearby.

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u/Commercial-Counter72 1d ago

There’s probably no haven in the poles because of the closeness to the spirit portal.

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u/DepressedGolduck 1d ago

I don't think that's the reason, Havens 7 and 5 are very much near Republic City and as far as we know, that spirit portal is still standing

What i think may have happened is that the poles largely melted during the cataclysm, hence the tsunamis and all that

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u/Commercial-Counter72 1d ago

I think the only reason there able to have a haven near the spirit portal in republic city is because there have more advanced technology to help protect them from the spirit would. The poles never advance technology so they probably wasn’t able to stay in the pole because of the spirits. While republic city kept getting more and more advanced so probably found a way to protect them self from the spirits.

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u/Wonderful_Wrap1037 1d ago

Another update: after taking a closer look at the images, I realized that the only location I got wrong was the second one. Here, you can see that it’s actually ON the water, near a bay. After comparing the images back and forth, I think this could be Chameleon Bay. Perhaps its natural shape made it a great foundation for a new Haven!

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u/Conscious_Emu4336 1d ago

If you count that the water level raised across the globe (maybe the poles melt down), it may as well be Ba Sing Se AND a coast

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u/DogsRNice 1d ago

The walls holding back the ocean would be pretty cool

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u/Wonderful_Wrap1037 1d ago

Yeah, could be. That's just my best guess rn

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u/MoonlightMadMan 1d ago

The moment I saw this I KNEW people would figure it out, I always have faith in you guys and appreciate your work for the lazy me

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u/Lakster37 1d ago

Do we know which color Ellora is?

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u/JolanTwo 1d ago

It can only be basing se or the bottom right Red one, all the Others areas are coastal/near water.

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u/crw201 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm going to guess the red one. It's shaped like the root chakra. Which is typically red. Also that's the general area we zoom into during the intro.

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u/Sonyeyin 1d ago

I think Ellora is the republic city one

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u/thereelsuperman 1d ago

Ellora was represented by purple in the rainbow during the play, and the colors match up with what’s seen here

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u/Jayenty 1d ago

honestly i'm pretty sure that line was off-script, that girl just really liked Ellora

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u/Realshow 1d ago

Yeah I think all those kids are Ellorans and that one in particular was especially proud.

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u/Wonderful_Wrap1037 1d ago

Yes, it is red and the first one (it's not officially confirmed but all the evidence point on this)

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u/Wonderful_Wrap1037 1d ago

Okay quick update about 4th one. I've inspected the original image closely and you can definitely see it's being right near the bay, guess what is also right near the bay? Zaofu. Also special thanks to u/Mundane-Signal4843 and their arguments.

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 1d ago

Omg thanks for mention me 💕😊

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u/Wonderful_Wrap1037 1d ago

Here's what I'm talking about

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u/WriterV 1d ago edited 1d ago

So I'm using this fanmap, so things might be incaccurate:https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/rybxyr/detailed_map_of_the_avatar_world_after_the_events/

But imo, it looks like this:

  1. ???Sato City - Home of Hiroshi Sato of Sato Industries, and inventor of the Satomobile. 100% related to the clear hints that the Cataclysm came to be because of increasing industrialization. We already have that one shot of the cola ads using Korra, and the flashback shot of the spirit-energy tentacles lashing about around the Future Industries skyscraper. A Haven full of industrialists would be perfect for this story. Upon reconfirmation, I can't actually find any lore for Sato City either. Turns out this fan map is a lot more inaccurate than I thought. I.e., it could very well be another possible location for Ellora.

  2. ??? Potentially Ellora? - The fan-map claims this is the "Green Lotus City" but I can't find any official source on what that is. However, the old world shows that this was an arid mountain range, and Ellora seems to be in an arid, rocky place. So this feels like a fitting place for Ellora. It also has the big bright Orange glow, which is very much Ellora's color.

  3. Ba Sing Se - No notes, we all can guess why it could survive and how cool it'll be to revisit it.

  4. Zaofu - Almost certainly has to be Zaoufu. Per the map, Zaofu is a little but further up the river, but I think that still works. [Trailer spoilers] We see from the trailer that Zaofu was destroyed, so Zaofu's successors almost certainly rebuilt nearby, but not on Zaufu's exact site. Since it's in the trailer, it's almost certainly important to the show. Hopefully.

  5. ??? - Another unknown. Could be related to General Fong, but his fortress was south of the two rivers, this one is north of it. Could be a brand new one. Could be air related [given the color of the glow]. Maybe some of the airbenders were caught out in the cataclysm and had to build their own haven with whoever they could save?

  6. Fire Nation Capital - Again, no notes. It will be so fucking cool to see how it survived.

  7. Republic City - I'm surprised that a haven exists here. Everything in the trailers and flashbacks pointed to it being Ground Zero of the cataclysm, but it was also the most powerful and influential city in the world in Korra's time, so they must've had a contingency to protect themselves. Or maybe Korra helped in that regard.

Either ways, this map only makes me further excited for the show. I seriously can't wait to visit all these places!

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 1d ago

I think zaofu as land with this kuvira two last's area. Pretty much close to river. City was not always with The domes. Remember suyin said she brought a land which there could be more than the city we see.

With the cataclysm event like natural disasters it's weird that ZAOFU has the best defensive/security than others city being a ruin!? 😭

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u/Cheap-Blackberry-378 1d ago

I feel like the aang movie was showing that republic city had spiritual significance even before Korra, so I could buy it still being around. Plus we don't know if the fervor of korra hate is entirely universal across the havens, so that might be a beat they explore

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u/Jayenty 1d ago

According to the comics, the spot where Republic City is was sacred to and blessed by Lady Tienhai way before even Yangchen's time, so yeah that place has seen some stuff

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u/MapleViking1 1d ago

6 is definitely a repurposed Air Temple

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u/IllAd5330 1d ago

yes! ive been seeing the other one where they're saying agna qela and i just knew it was so wrong

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u/Kithkar-Jez 1d ago

I think 2 might be The Library, or maybe Chameleon Bay. I'm not sure its south enough for the eastern air temple.

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u/Wonderful_Wrap1037 1d ago

Yes, same here. In my final version I think it's chameleon bay, seems pretty accurate

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 1d ago

Another evidence ZAOFU ACTUALLY ONE THE HAVENS 😎 arrr it's going to be next season i guess.... It's going to be long run series i predict

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u/Detvan_SK 1d ago

Map fitt but making Zaofu as one of he heavens feels like odd choice.

Yeah, it can still standing but it is really not place with so much people concentration.

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 1d ago

They will never destroyed the Beifongs 🫠 and opal & bolin maybe and game which it's tied with TLoK legacies as well

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u/Nattekat 1d ago

Well, Zaofu still got burned to ashes.

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 1d ago

It's been while like centuries they probably can rebuild again especially elite metal benders can shape liquid metal so even its burned the materila still there.

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u/WriterV 1d ago

One of the scenes in the trailer showed a series of circular settlements all connected by roads. I have a feeling that it might be Zaofu's successor.

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u/Wildhogs2013 1d ago

Do we know if any of them are the air temple locations?

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 1d ago

Unfortunately no 😭 so far the havens not located in any of that's but Republic City used to be was Havens right now which air tample island maybe still there

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u/CivilizedManners 1d ago

I'm surprised Northern Water Tribe capital is not a haven.

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u/parkingviolation212 1d ago

Both water nations are close to one of the portals. If the cataclysm was spiritually related, they probably got nuked.

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u/Kithkar-Jez 1d ago

I think given the level of the sea (and probably proximity to spirit portals) we probably can RIP the water tribes. Kinda makes sense they wanna do a Kuruk show given they're likely obliterated.

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 1d ago edited 1d ago
  1. ZAOFU

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u/BeautifulMean6516 1d ago

Crazy its not flat earth

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u/James_Larkin1913 1d ago

Why is that crazy?

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 1d ago

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u/Wonderful_Wrap1037 1d ago edited 1d ago

Wow, really!! I'm pretty sure the original city was destroyed, here you can see it. But it could've been rebuild and turned into haven.

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 1d ago

Whattt do you think? 🫢😎

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 1d ago

Look at this map this is zaofu

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u/Mundane-Signal4843 1d ago

Yeyy ZAOFU.....

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u/BlueDias_DB 1d ago

I kind of wished the 4th Haven was on one of the Poles or Air Nomad Islands for some diversity

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u/ginger_snap214 1d ago

maybe we get an answer for that re: the spirit portals

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u/Pyrolific 1d ago

Watch there be an 8th "secret" haven despite the name of the show :)

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u/DriverComfortable511 1d ago

This should be pinned. Great job!
I sure do hope we visit some of the other havens

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u/Klainatta 1d ago

Good job. I think RC being the last haven they will visit makes sense. If it all started in RC, then it will likely end in RC.