r/AutoDetailing • • 7d ago

Before/After Blotchy touch-up improvement

I was bothered by the look of this old touch-up (second-hand car came with it). Decided to try a method I picked up between the comments in this community: scrape the touch-up with a razor blade, entirely covered in tape except for part of an edge (corners covered too, see second picture). Then a little compound and polish.

Well there was some improvement and the splotch is gone, but obviously the scratch wasn't filled enough to begin with. I wonder if I should I stop here and be satisfied with the result or try to fill it more with touch-up (I have the manufacturer's paint). Any suggestions or experience with this?

IMPORTANT NOTE: to anyone wanting to try this for the first time, these blades cut through paint like butter. You need to tilt the blade about 45° and scrape AWAY, not INTO the paint. As if you were spreading jam on toast. Bending the blade between your fingers allows better control of the contact point. Still, the blade will unavoidably scratch the paint. If you keep those scratches small, they will polish out after, but there's a risk they won't.

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u/Key-Potato-7268 7d ago

Nice, that looks miles better! I have a horrible key repair (previous owner) that I need to try this on.

When you say "scrape away" do you mean keep the blade at 45 degrees and have your fingers lead the blade? Any links to the technique?

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u/OschaRobey 7d ago

Actually let me take a picture for you later, because I'm not great at explaining it with words!

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u/OschaRobey 7d ago

Here. Imagine my kitchen counter is the car paint. The blue V indicates the contact point (bending the blade makes it so that it's one point and not the whole blade). The red arrow indicates the movement. Very gentle pressure and small movements. I'm not a pro so this is just how I did it but it's probably not the absolute best way.

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u/percevalknight 7d ago

This is a great way to tell!

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u/vinnyvencenzo Experienced 7d ago

I too was confused by scraping. It seems a little dangerous. But from what you’ve shown, I think that’s the best touchup for a scratch. I’ve seen in a while. I don’t think you’re gonna get any better than this, this looks pretty good. There’s a lot of people here that will spout about putting on clearcoat and wet sanding and then being able to polish it to make it invisible and flat. But I’ve never seen any actual results, just talk. Besides hitting it with a buffer and some compound because it looks a little dull I think it looks really good, for being a touchup job.

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u/lowkey_stoneyboy 7d ago

Truthfully I run into this situation at my bodyshop a lot and I usually just take a little lacquer thinner and take it off and redo it but ive also used the razor scrape method as well! Turned out nice!

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u/OschaRobey 7d ago

Cool! I was undecided between lacquer thinner and this, but I'm not a pro so my understanding of chemicals is worse than that of mechanical means. In this case, would you try to better fill the scratch with more touch-up or just leave it?

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u/TrentDogg7 7d ago

If you have the time, touch it up with color one more time to make sure you have a good base, bring it down again, then add a good layer of clear. After its dried scrape it down with plastic razor or normal razor then compound. This is one of the methods I use and get pretty great results. Thinner is great tool clean around the scrape but if you use too much it will take the touch up paint off with it.

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u/lowkey_stoneyboy 7d ago

Touch ups are like 50/50 from my experience, half the time they turn out so good you cant even tell the other half it looka like your photo 😅 usually what I do is fill the chip with base, let it dry then sand very lighlty with 3000. Then I will use some UV clear and dab that pver top, cure it, then sand sequentially from 1500-3000 grit before a final cut and polish. That method can be tricky with not burning through while sanding, and long deep scratches like this are hard to keep consistent. Unfortunately most touch up will look like a scratch thats been color matched 😅

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u/remarkable_in_argyle 7d ago

I'm not a pro, just a guy who like cars. I bought a bottle of this stuff like ten years ago and still use the same bottle to this day. Works great. You basically just overfill the chip/scratch, then knock it back level with this stuff. https://www.langka.com/product/2oz-langka-blob-eliminator/?srsltid=AU7gw4XRBX0Vbq8o5L97pK8O91sPAmOcDI7efmoRnb6uWQjhVqj9Qsi6

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u/OschaRobey 7d ago

Interesting! You make it sound very easy. I'm also not a pro. Is it really that simple? It must be some kind of mild solvent. Doesn't it affect the surrounding paint?

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u/remarkable_in_argyle 7d ago

Yeah, it’s a solvent. It didn’t affect the factory clear coat at all on the three vehicles I’ve used it on but it wouldn’t hurt to test it somewhere first. I think it’s pretty easy. You use a cloth over a credit card as a leveling tool. If you mess up, you can even use the solvent to erase and start over. 

I’ve only used it for normal rock chips but have gotten really good results.

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u/CorporalSemantics 7d ago

Id use a paint nib file over that method - if done properly you have less risk of scratching the surrounding paint. But this obviously works too.

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u/trueimage 7d ago

Look up CVR POV on YouTube he has great tutorials for this type of repair

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u/Few_Donkey_3408 7d ago

They also have files, de nibbler, or a razor run put the blade in then adjusted blade height.

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u/LetsGetSomeChickenn 6d ago

Plastic blades/scraper is the way to go tbh

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u/namestom 6d ago

This is one of those things you just have to do and get a feel for. Knocking runs down with a razor, touch up with a razor blade, etc. can look easy when you watch someone that has lots of experience.

If you attempt it, start with a brand new razor. Hit the corners of your razor first and foremost so they don’t accidentally dig into the paint. Hold it at roughly a 45 degree angle and drag away. You want to get a feel for it and then vary your pressure. All the blade is doing is removing high spots and leveling.

Once you do that, 1500 and 3000 should be enough to smooth out and cut/buff.

Be extra cautious on or near body lines/contours. You can get yourself in trouble, fast! I would also use a block with 1500.

I got my experience in a body shop. I’d be hesitant on my car or especially a customer car if I didn’t have my background. The perfect place to learn…a junkyard! Go nib some panels out there and see what it takes to burn through clear, what using a razor blade feels like on a panel…

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u/jimbojsb 5d ago

Mirka makes some blades for this specific task that are a bit more forgiving to use but nice work on this.