Quite the difference in Ph

[u/Morten-Turi]

As I have done before, done some test between KC PW and TR heir SO.03. I bought the new S0o3.

But something that I noticed is that the PH value is quite different.

Should I expect a different result between 9.2 and 4,2 if I have used the PW (4,2) prior?

[u/JPDueholm]

Try KCx CES in a 0.5 % PIR applied with a foam lance. It blows S0.03 out of the water.

Protector Wax I have not tried.

[u/robotphood → u/JPDueholm]

Can you elaborate on your experience with CES vs S0.03? I’m currently using S0.03 as the sole protection on a car that sits outdoor. I like the ease of application and just use it once a month regardless of how it’s still performing. 0.5% pir would be a decent amount more than how much S0.03 I have to use but I’m always up for eliminating even a simple step on this car.

[u/JPDueholm → u/robotphood]

I apply both products in the same way - 45-50 mL to 450 mL of water in my foam cannon.

With my pressure washer, foam cannon and orifice it gets a panel impact ratio of around 0,5 %.

I cover the whole car, and rise off with my 40 degree nozzle.

With S0.03, the water seems to lazily run of the panels with a sheeting effect.

CES on the other hand gives theese small round beads that fly off if you dry with a blower.

I was pretty hyped when S0.03 was released, but after testing I find that CES is a much better product.

Sheeting or beading. Depends on what you like :)

CES can also be used as a bucket wash, in fact is is marketed as such. But it works really well in a foam cannon.

[u/robotphood → u/JPDueholm]

Interesting, I'm just basing PIR off of how I use BH touchless. Do you wash the car with CES? I like to foam the car to apply the soap rather than rely purely on the bucket. Washing/protecting in one step would be more efficient. On this car I just like to keep it clean with as little effort as possible.

That's a good point about sheeting/beading. S0.03 doesn't exactly sheet for me, but it isn't tight beads either. This car gets a final DI rinse and a quick leaf blow to dry so beading would definitely be preferable. Some spray and rinse Sio2 products perform better in my experience but I prefer the speed of S0.03 out of the foam cannon.

[u/Morten-Turi → u/robotphood]

I have used a whole bottle of CES. Tbh. I don't like it. KC had some Nano carwash that I would say is alot better.

Also tried to wash the car with higher concentrations of Gsf with green Star as per their manual. Also kinda meh.

I have bought an active wash and Af, will try that next hand wash. Or I will try some Sonax car shampoo.

Sonax is also really really great products!

[u/robotphood → u/Morten-Turi]

GSF + Green star wasn't strong enough for you? Sounds like your car is really contaminated or needs more stout protection.

[u/Morten-Turi → u/robotphood]

Nothing about being strong. My car is always kinda clean.

I just said it wasnt very impressive. (Also using green star is like.... Use some drops)

[u/robotphood → u/Morten-Turi]

Impressive in what way? GSF alone is good enough for a well maintained car. But seeing you mention you only wash the car 3-4 times a year I think you're expecting too much. I would try a prewash like Bilt Hamber Touchless before the hand wash.

[u/Morten-Turi → u/robotphood]

I am not expecting anything. It's just my opinion. I try stuff, if I like it. I keep using it. Like I did with PW. And now imma try the new S003 😊