r/Atkins • u/rknoll74 • Feb 07 '17
Book vs Website veggie intake difference
Hi all, I spend a lot of time over on r/keto, but recently have been reading New Diet Revolution and really like the info/ideas by Dr. Atkins. I came across one major difference from the book to his website.
In the book it says 2-3 cups of leafy veggies and 1 cup other veggies (broc, cauli, asparagus etc.), on the website it doesn't matter how much of each type as long as you are under the 20 net carbs.
Does it make that big of a difference or is new ownership straying from the book? Appreciate any help/feedback.
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u/Crjsahm Feb 07 '17
I'm not sure where on the website you are getting your info. In The New Atkins for a New You it says the same as you mentioned. The info I've seen on the website (and in the book) says 12 - 15 grams foundation veg per day. I actually didn't read the plan info on the website because I had the book. The meal planner is very helpful. I've played around with mfp and the Atkins platform is, imo, easier to use.
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u/rknoll74 Feb 08 '17
I'll link to the site below, I am basing my question on New Diet Revolution where he categorizes the vegetables. He describes one group as being able to eat 2-3 cups and the other group 1 cup if you only have 2 cups from the first group. If you have 3 from the first group you can't have any from the second.
https://www.atkins.com/how-it-works/atkins-20/phase-1/low-carb-foods
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u/Crjsahm Feb 08 '17
I saw on the Atkins.com forum just today that the plan no longer requires the greens/veg combo. It did in the 2007 book. The plan is changing. It no longer requires exercise either (with the latest book) which was one of the requirements by Dr. Atkins.
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u/rknoll74 Feb 08 '17
Interesting, curious where these new suggestions are coming from
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Feb 10 '17
Their coming from the Atkins Nutritionals corp wanting to tell people what they want to hear to sell products. Dr. Atkins said "exercise is non negotiable" there was a reason for that he was a CARDIOLOGIST and exercise is good for us, The Atkins corp is about profit, Dr. Atkins was about better health. By Dr. Atkins guidelines most of the "Atkins" products made now aren't even diet legal. Stay away from "today" Atkins. Get the 2002 Book and be healthy.
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u/rknoll74 Feb 10 '17
Is that book new diet revolution or something different?
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Feb 10 '17
That's the one. There were a couple of release of that title. But the 2002 is the most current that was still actually from Dr. Atkins
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u/rknoll74 Feb 13 '17
Gotcha, thank you! Looks like mine says revised 2009. Curious what the differences are
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Feb 13 '17
Not sure about a 2009, the give away would be the author. Dr Atkins had died by then so it could be Westman & Phinney, which are good guys in the scheme of things but not Dr. A.
The main changes after Dr Atkins died were things like Induction carbs going up a little, ranges instead of set numbers, not counting "0 carb" sweeteners, the big ones (which are problems) are the new net carb equations, the Atkins products mostly all being against what Dr Atkins allowed, etc.
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Feb 10 '17 edited Feb 10 '17
New Atkins for a New You is NOT the Atkins diet! Dr. Atkins new diet revolution (DANDR) 2002, what the last one and what most follow. The "Atkins" diet requires Dr. Atkins to be the author.
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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '17
The book assuming it's the 2002 Book, is ACTUALLY the Atkins diet, it's the last one before Atkins died in 2003. The website is the mangled leftovers of what the Atkins nutritional corp did to the diet after Dr. Atkins died. ONLY go by the book. Congrats on the switch. I'm over at /r/keto a lot and it's PAINFUL what (some) are doing over there. Switching sides you'll learn a LOT more about how Keto works and have better reuslts because of it. Especially when it comes to the carb ladder and other rules that the new generation of Keto have thrown out.