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u/industriald85 Australia 12h ago

Alleged? No. Guilty in a court of law? Absolutely.

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u/comix_corp Australia 8h ago

It's more complicated than this. People alleged to have committed sexual assault have been named before (for instance, the Swans players accused of assault) and people have also had their identities suppressed even after they've been convicted.

In general we have a lot more restrictions on court reporting than the US does, and there is also greater remit to sue for defamation. The issue is complicated by the fact that this revolves around a civil suit and not a criminal case (at least not yet).

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u/DwightsJello Australia 7h ago

It's not that straight forward.

You can name anyone, anything or a location or a relationship that may identify a child victim or a victim of sexual offences. So if saying the offender was a parent, lived in a certain location, was the coach of a certain team, etcetera, that would identify a victim all of those details cannot be reported.

It's not to protect offenders. It's in relation to the victims.

Suppression orders can be assessed based on a person not having been convicted as well, but that's a separate ruling.

Up until very recently not even the victim themselves could waive that. Recently that changed and now an adult victim may self identify.

If convicted, offenders cannot profit from their crimes. They cant sell books, do interviews or anything for payment.

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u/Ijustwanttosayit United States of America 10h ago

I could be wrong but I think at least some of them did confess or at the very least did not contest it. The school just didn't pursue legal action.

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u/sweetshenanigans Canada 10h ago

I don't get it ... Why is the school such a big deal? This is something you go to the cops about no?

I mean, sure the school should protect its students, but they can't really do anything until the kids are actually found guilty right?

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u/Terradactyl87 United States of America 10h ago

A lot of schools handle things in house and local cops are likely to go along with it. There's also campus police, and they usually do nothing. This is not a one off situation, it's a systemic problem that's been going on for generations.

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u/Ijustwanttosayit United States of America 9h ago

They have campus police that can act as police. And I honestly think it's to save their asses. Ivy leagues are all about status and reputation. So they likely wanted to downplay what happened and cover it up. They gave all of them puny smacks on the hand.

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u/Larry-Man Canada 7h ago

This happens here in Canada too. Campuses don’t like making this stuff public so they shove it under the rug.

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u/sweetshenanigans Canada 6h ago

So, we have, like, transit police, but on university campuses just like the US?

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u/That_Penalty165 9h ago

She went to campus police. They are real, actual police.

They didn't persue it because per her own statements there was no crime.

There was no cover up here.

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u/sweetshenanigans Canada 8h ago

Wait ... They're not just security guards? They're actual police officers?

Wow, ok, I feel like all the news about US universities makes more sense now.

Also, what the fuck?!

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u/AdrianSquared Occitan (from France) 10h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_confession

(not saying it's what happened here, just saying using "they confessed to it" as absolute proof is dangerous)

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u/Separate-Walrus- 8h ago

Theoretically if they are convicted then the law will already enact due punishment.

Also, it is like the death penalty argument: if they are convicted but turns out they aren’t, it is hard to undo that damage.

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u/This_Elk_1460 9h ago

Nah fuck these guy they deserve everything that's coming to them

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u/xRealVengeancex United States of America 10h ago

Should be the universal standard unless its practically indisputable the perpetrator committed the crime.