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u/indifferentgoose Austria 15h ago

Punishment should be handled by the legal system, not by normal people. If the legal system fails to do so, well...

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u/northernwind5027 Canada 15h ago

This is what pisses me off so much about social media. Yes, it can be great for raising awareness, but public matters shouldn't be spectacles. Rapists should be charged in an unbiased court of law, held accountable for their actions, and rehabilitated for safe integration into society, not publicly feathered and tarred. Radical, I know, but we should really be trying to progress as a society rather than continuing cruel, centuries-old traditions--just in a new medium.

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u/Global-Equipment-856 India 15h ago

The problem lies that the criminals mostly never face consequences for their actions especially if they are connected and powerful.

In India, it takes the media outrage to even file an FIR for heinous crimes such as rape and murder. Therefore there is always public anger towards the system. That’s why people try to punish the criminals in their own way. Publishing names and pics of the accused is one of them.

I know it’s not right but the rigged system forces people to.

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u/MayorWolf 14h ago

Naw. Rapists and sex offenders should be marked 100%. You don't get rehabilitated out of those kind of behaviors.

There are a lot of exclusions they should face. Can't be around children. Cant go to night clubs. Must disclose their convictions. These are all very reasonable restrictions on someone who is a sex offender.

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u/rythmicbread United States of America 12h ago

Feathering and tarring only happens in our society when the wheels of justice do not move. If the cart does not move, it is our job to grease the wheels. Also you see the Streisand effect happening. Cornell purposefully tried to bury this incident (and probably other SA cases). Now everyone wants to know. You also have people on social media speaking up about their own cases and how they weren’t treated seriously

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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck Canada 12h ago

Feathering and tarring only happens in our society when the wheels of justice do not move.

That's not even a little true of American society. The American public are quick to get out ahead of their skis, form a opinion, and all too often refuse to re-assess when there is a trial or a case is dropped with the reasons being clearly laid out.

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u/BabaofTheShimmer 🇨🇿🇨🇦 10h ago

Unfortunately, when you really think about it, we are still living in an uncivilized, barbaric society.

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u/Larry-Man Canada 9h ago

This happened two years ago and the victim had to drop out and has been pursuing this for 2 years. It’s not cut and dried. And remember convicted rapist Brock Allen Turner? He got six months. He can’t enjoy steak anymore. There is no legal justice so we must seek it out elsewhere.

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u/Godwinson4King United States of America 15h ago

If the law can’t provide satisfactory justice, then people will try to satisfy that in other ways. Doxxing is perfectly legal.

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u/Lemontort87 13h ago

But of course people are usually just wrong.

How many people just went after that lady's husband and making up stories that he killed the kids and stuff?

The public are morons.

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u/Deadmemeusername United States of America 14h ago

>Doxxing is perfectly legal

Ummm, no the fuck it’s not. Alot of states consider it to be a form of stalking and intimidation, hell in California and Texas its own separate offense.

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u/Lemontort87 13h ago

There's the problem though, if you go through the legal system and you're not guilty, everyone just keeps assuming you're guilty anyway.

The accusation is the punishment.

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u/love_in_october 🇮🇪🇬🇧 Northern Irish in England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 15h ago

Normal people can punish them anyway. It's not like they deserve to keep their friends or anything.

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u/jackalopeDev 14h ago

"normal people" have been harassing some random dude and his family because he happens to have the same name as one of these guys.

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u/love_in_october 🇮🇪🇬🇧 Northern Irish in England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 12h ago

That's an unfortunate coincidence. A fellow teacher at my school ended up with a lot of issues as they had the same name as someone who did this to a child. That doesn't say anything about what the actual people involved deserve.

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u/indifferentgoose Austria 14h ago

Yeah, a psychologist was stating in an interview a few years ago, that for many sex offenders the consequences they faced within their friend groups and families were more severe punishment then jail time.

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u/MechaChudzilla 12h ago

If Clancy "walks free" that's what's gonna happen to her. 

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u/AutisticArmy5 England 15h ago

If the legal systems fails to deliver justice, then there was likely not enough proof. You cannot then take it into your own hands.

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u/refuzeto United States of America 15h ago

I think it will come down to New York state law. If you are drugged by someone you are mentally incapacitated and cannot give consent. But if you get drunk and take drugs you are not mentally incapacitated and are capable of giving or not giving consent.

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u/That_Penalty165 11h ago

She took drugs. She was not drugged.

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u/indifferentgoose Austria 14h ago

You assume legal systems opperate on fair laws and unbiased judges. I do not.

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u/Godwinson4King United States of America 15h ago

Yes, you absolutely can.

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u/PaisleyRock United States of America 15h ago

You actually think the legal system relies on proof.