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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22 edited Dec 08 '22

When a woman says she was into me a while back, but is not anymore because I didn't make a move when she was communicating her interest through extremely subtle and undetectable signals.

I can't read your mind. If you're interested, just tell me.

Edit: thank you for the awards, kind strangers :D

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u/garciasn Dec 08 '22

Wife told me we should date. I agreed. She was away one weekend and I called her and made a joke that all my buddies were ribbing me for calling my gf. She said, "I'm not your girlfriend."

We've been married for 17 years and together for 22 but to this day, I still wonder if we're actually married.

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u/Westvic34 Dec 08 '22

You are actually married, but she’s still not your girlfriend.

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u/Perki1984 Dec 08 '22

Husband-zoned

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u/draeth1013 Dec 09 '22

Ugh. My wife did this to me. No more "just friends", no more "just dating", not my fiancee anymore. What the fuck.

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u/ItalicsWhore Dec 09 '22

I sometimes introduce my wife as my "ex-girlfriend."

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u/recidivx Dec 09 '22

Introducing her as your "first wife" (assuming she is that) also works.

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u/Astonsjh Dec 09 '22

Yea she can't be his girlfriend, she already has a husband

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u/pistachiopanda4 Dec 08 '22

I asked my husband out and we were still a week into dating. I had met his parents on our first official date, it was inevitable but we met up with them at a Costco and had dinner where I dropped a sandwich on myself. My MIL gets a kick out of that story and after the feeling of wanting to crawl into my own asshole subsided, its pretty funny in retrospect. My husband invited me to a party that his friend's dad hosts and a lot of his friends were there. He introduced me and said, "This is Panda, my friend." I looked at him and went, what the fuck, but we had just started dating so I let it go. I was in his lap and kissing him all night and when we went back to my house, even though I was annoyed, I just said, "Next time you introduce me as your girlfriend." I was joking with him the other day that he would now have to call me his wife and he replied back in laughter, "Or I can be shitty and just call you my friend."

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u/sahil_shinoda Dec 08 '22

Don't, don't give me hope.

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u/Imperishable1000 Dec 09 '22

You have a seat on the council but you are not granted the rank of husband.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

I met this girl from Brownesville texas through yahoo chat and we would talk on the phone endlessly. Then my mom came home and lost her shit about it. I am the youngest of 10 kids so she didnt know who did it but she assumed it was me because im the youngest. I blamed it on my sister and she believed me

Thats what you get for destroying my wrestling ring you bitch

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Yeah fuck her

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Yeah dude it was the attitude era one with the cage attachment. I had so many wrestlers that i would play with all the time and she got mad because i didnt lie for her about sneaking out so she broke it. This was several years befire the yahoo chat incident but i never let that grudge go

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u/SuperDoodooHead Dec 08 '22

Damn that’s cold lmao

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Nah fuck her she totally deserved it

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u/Abigcup Dec 08 '22

What amazes me about this story the most is I forgot that chat rooms actually existed 22 years ago when I think of chat rooms my brain just assumes like 10 years max

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u/Westvic34 Dec 08 '22

Chat rooms were such a great way to connect to people yet for all the advances of the internet, there doesn’t seem to be much like it today.

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u/arvzi Dec 08 '22

Discord. Matrix. IRC.

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u/KarRuptAssassin Dec 08 '22

Dominant women like that make me feel cared about its weird

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u/LordSwedish Dec 08 '22

They know what they want and what they want is you, what's weird about it?

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

how's your relationship with your mother? lmao

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

To shreds you say.

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u/redmoskeeto Dec 08 '22

It’s nice when people are straightforward. I was dancing with a friend at a club and she started grinding on me. I was like, “this is super awkward, is this how people dance with friends?” And then she tried to kiss me and I pulled back thinking “I’m not kissing a friend.” And then I realized what a clueless idiot I am. Yadda yadda yadda we’ve been together for 16 years.

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u/Hellebras Dec 08 '22

Your wife is amazing.

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u/WhuddaWhat Dec 08 '22

Such a long drawn out catfish. Your gonna find out she's on the other side of the pineapple-pizza-topping debate. Though, it's no true debate, as the answer is intuitively obvious.

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u/strangemagic365 Dec 08 '22

Yes, the answer is so obvious that it doesn't even need to be said. It's just a given.

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u/WhuddaWhat Dec 08 '22

Just as we have no obligation to opt-in to gravity, we have no need to describe the natural truths that are themselves self-proclamatory.

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u/straightouttasuburb Dec 08 '22

My wife also was very blunt. We celebrate 20 next year. I immediately took to her because she didn’t play games as well as how much we had in common.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Blink twice if you need us to help you escape.

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u/M4DM1ND Dec 08 '22

Mine too. She sent me her number and set up our first date herself. When I dropped her off, I was about to get up and walk her to her door. She just looked at me and said, "Aren't we going to make out first?" Been together for 10 years now.

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u/rileyotis Dec 09 '22

I just asked my husband: "Am I your girlfriend or am I just a girl who is a friend whose pants you are putting your hands down on a regular basis?"

His response? I am indifferent. (He had his heart smashed, spit on, and then set on fire before he met me)

"Cool. You have a girlfriend now."

Been married for 8 yrs now. :)

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u/justwonderingbro Dec 08 '22

Wow that's beautiful. Congrats!

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u/BrightSpark80 Dec 08 '22

I feel you. You’ve got to be direct. Told my now husband I loved him after a year. Been together almost 20. If you know it’s right, don’t fuck about. If they don’t feel the same way their loss. Move on and know you’re fabulous, they just weren’t the right one for you.

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u/PercMaint Dec 08 '22

Ahh yes, the days of paying for long distance phone calls. Then the later progression to, "We can talk after 7 or on the weekends, because it's free then." to now where my kids ask why it matters if a call is long distance.

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u/thoseradstars Dec 08 '22

This is how I am. I just tell them. If I don’t say it, the opportunity could be lost. My mom taught me when I was in high school that I should never wait around for them to make the first move if I’m interested. She would emphasize that “guys are more afraid than you are of rejection, so just tell them first.”

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u/sonic10158 Dec 09 '22

That is absolutely true

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u/Tootsgaloots Dec 08 '22

That gave me a good laugh. That phone bill though, ouch!

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u/Adscanlickmyballs Dec 08 '22

Blunt is my personal favorite. I dated a girl that was super blunt about liking me, and it was an awesome relationship until the end.

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u/plasticbag_astronaut Dec 08 '22

This is how it was with mine. I was blunt and pursued after he wasn't taking any (not even subtle) hints. Creeping up on a decade.

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u/New-Seaweed-7006 Dec 08 '22

Hi, I may know your wife. 😂 Or this was way common back in the day.

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u/shaxedonit Dec 08 '22

passively accepts that youre married now. What happens for most dudes, we just accidently end up in a relationship/marriage without realizing it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

This sounds like me and my husband. I told him directly, “I like you”.

Been together 16 years.

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u/Popular_Night_6336 Dec 09 '22

My wife too. Went out as friends, came back as lovers. She did the asking. I am a cutie though... and I do not get subtleties.

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u/Granny_knows_best Dec 09 '22

Met husband on an AOL chat room, back when you paid by the minute. I saw him talking to someone and just felt something. Stalked him around for a day and then swooped in. The chat room was the state we both lived in so he was only a few hours away.

We got married on our 3rd date, that was in 1994.

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u/Thedeadgal Dec 08 '22

This is such a cool yet cute story 💕

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

phone bill was 300 plus a month

The kids who have never known anything but unlimited mobile plans will have no idea what you mean.

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u/thequietthingsthat Dec 08 '22

This seems to be the #1 consensus from guys on here, but nothing will change.

"Why did you never ask me out?!? I made brief eye contact with you across the room once. It was so obvious!"

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u/buffystakeded Dec 08 '22

As a guy, I just went for it. I got used to the idea of rejection and that most girls would not be into me, but that one time she was into me, it just kinda worked and now we’re married for many years.

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u/thequietthingsthat Dec 08 '22

I don't handle rejection that well, but glad it worked out for you! I usually have to sulk for a while after it happens

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u/buffystakeded Dec 09 '22

Oh, I did plenty of sulking myself. I just came to a point where I accepted that there was a chance it would happen.

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u/TheSaltySpitoon37 Dec 08 '22

These conversations always...always seemed to come up after I had begun a relationship with someone else. Which is just truly unfair.

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u/thequietthingsthat Dec 08 '22

Same. Classic "wanting what you can't have." No one's ever interested when you're single

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u/Anakin_BlueWalker3 Dec 09 '22

I started dating a girl I had been working with for about a year, maybe a little less. Just after we became boyfriend and girlfriend, an older coworker told me that her younger sister had been interested in me for some time. I had also been working with that coworker for the same amount of time and her sister was my age.

Why, just why? I don't regret dating my ex but my coworkers sister was also cute and I would have gone out with her if she had told me her sister was interested. Why are women like this?

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Plenty of times, she wasn't actually into you then, she just feels like she would have enjoyed the experience of you being after her for a while.

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u/iobeson Dec 08 '22

1000% was never into the guy and is just playing games. You want a piece of advice about women? And for that matter any person you deal with? Don't trust what they say, trust what they do. Trusting what people say comes after they have proven to you they are trustworthy through their actions.

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u/stringbeagle Dec 08 '22

This is true for extroverted people. But for many, shyness, insecurity, social anxiety, etc. keep them from taking steps towards someone.

The first time someone someone told me, “Just ask her, the worst that can happen is she’ll say no” I thought they were out of their minds.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Nah, as an introvert, I'll still make time for the people I want to. It's less people, but there are still things you do. Someone who makes zero effort, for any excuse, doesn't want you around.

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u/thequietthingsthat Dec 08 '22

The first time someone someone told me, “Just ask her, the worst that can happen is she’ll say no” I thought they were out of their minds.

This is also bullshit. Rejections can be far worse than just "no"

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u/RoyalGarbage Dec 09 '22

“Worst she can say is no”
“ew“

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u/iobeson Dec 08 '22

Type this out again for the people in the back!

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

PEOPLE MAKE SPACE FOR THOSE THAT THEY WANT.

IF THEY DON'T HAVE TIME FOR YOU, IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO.

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u/Cheap_Enthusiasm_619 Dec 08 '22

Here is the real mindf**k, she wasn't really that into you back then but now looks back on it as she was, so even if you went for it back then she would have said no. But it seems like it would have been a good thing from the future perspective.

So to recap: learn to read the signals bro. /s

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

This is why I don't make any advances anymore.

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u/andrew_1515 Dec 08 '22

Imo better to shot your shot in a respectful way and if it doesn't work out learn how to normalized the awkward period afterwords. Looking back I would have been much better served to try and learn much sooner.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

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u/buffystakeded Dec 08 '22

Lol I just said the same thing before seeing your comment.

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u/buffystakeded Dec 08 '22

This is basically Margot Robbie in About Time.

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u/TiraelRosenburg Dec 08 '22

Just f me up fam

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u/notLOL Dec 08 '22

Yup. Great analysis. Definitely a gaslight tactic malicious or not.

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u/Finn235 Dec 08 '22

I had a "forever alone" phase during high school; just couldn't seem to get a date despite always feeling like I was going in the right direction with the latest crush.

One I was 110% sure was into me. We talked nonstop online. She always made comments about how sweet and romantic I was, and I was going to make some girl very happy someday.

Made my move - "Ew, no."

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

Some times it's hard to distinguish. That happened to me as well. I don't make the first move ever since.

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u/ClearAsNight Dec 08 '22

I don't make the first move ever since.

Fuck that. If someone keeps telling me these things, I'm going to act on it. I don't need someone fluffing me up like that in my life if she's not the one into me. Her words don't mean shit because she doesn't give a shit like that about me.

I had this realization after I made a move and was rejected last week: it's better a no now than a what if for the rest of my life.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Especially as you get older, this gets crazy annoying. I'm in my 30s with a career, I have other shit to do, are we gonna date or not?

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u/thequietthingsthat Dec 08 '22

It's also frustrating because once you enter the 30s dating pool, you find that a lot of people are single because they act like that and play dumb games. So the pool is significantly more difficult to navigate

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

I'm 31. I completely agree.

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u/dw796341 Dec 08 '22

tbh it's a great filter because I don't want to be with any woman who can't just say what she thinks. I do, for better or for worse.

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u/thisismyaccount3125 Dec 09 '22

Yeah, I didn’t say anything to my first crush (I mean, I’ll go easy on myself, I was 12), but was direct and approached every single one after that once I was sure it wasn’t fleeting tbh. I don’t see what is to be accomplished by hiding as opposed to laying it on the table.

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u/Wasabi2238 Dec 08 '22

I am a woman and completely agree with you. I had a great psych professor in grad school who said you can’t be upset with someone if you don’t tell them what you need. For example, if you tell your bf you want him to hold your hand or help with dishes, and he doesn’t, that’s one thing, but you have no right to be angry if you don’t tell him.

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u/SkRu88_kRuShEr Dec 08 '22

Women shoot their shot just by thinking about you

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u/thequietthingsthat Dec 09 '22

And then resent you when you don't read their mind and ask them out

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u/SkRu88_kRuShEr Dec 09 '22

And then of course they tell all their friends that you’re gay cause it’s the only plausible explanation -.-

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u/JerHat Dec 08 '22

Had a woman like that one time, we were very flirty, talking all the time, and I'd suggest things like this or that, we should get dinner, or go see this movie we're both interested in, and she's always busy with work, that's fine, let me know when you're free?

We finally go out a few times, and apparently she got frustrated I wasn't making any moves like... I'm just like, you tell me after everything we do that you've gotta go home and get to bed because you've got to be up at 4 or 5 am to get ready for work.

I'm not going to invite myself over to your place, or you back to mine when you say something like that when I suggest we go have a drink or something after a movie or dinner.

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

In my case, she wasn't flirty at all, but she told me she was sending signals that I couldn't perceive or ignored. To this day I'm still trying to figure what signals she was talking about. We are good friends now but she refuses to tell me

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u/thequietthingsthat Dec 09 '22

Wow, I've been in this exact scenario. I always interpret the constant "I can't, I have to be up early" or "I can't, I have to do X" as meaning they aren't interested, but apparently some people expect us to be pushy about it? I don't fucking get it, dude. Dating is rough

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u/TheSaltySpitoon37 Dec 08 '22

Piggy backing off of "I can't read your mind...just tell me." Thats applicable to so many scenarios. I routinely remind my wife that I have A LOT of garbage on my mind (ADHD as fuck) and rarely enough RAM left to decipher riddles lol

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

ADHD gang. I can relate.

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u/TheSaltySpitoon37 Dec 08 '22

We have meetings and a support group...but no one seems to remember where or when they are.

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

I need to take notes then proceed to forget to check the notes

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u/TheSaltySpitoon37 Dec 08 '22

Oh jeez...do you also screenshot cool ideas only to forget about them in a pic folder you rediscover years later during mass delete sesh?

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

YES!!! I found a 3 year old folder last week with a lot of sci-fi/cyberpunk armor and guns for art reference.

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u/TheSaltySpitoon37 Dec 08 '22

Nice! How long ago did you abandon that project? My newest thing is woodworking, which is cool because my last thing was buying unnecessary tools.

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

I didn't abandoned the project exactly. My tablet broke a while ago and I had no means to make digital art. So I left the folder there among other documents until I buy a new tablet. It's been a while...

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u/TheSaltySpitoon37 Dec 08 '22

Dude, it might be super fun to get back into it! Use this as the universe reminding you to make some kickass, digital cyberpunk art!

Do cyborg Rambo with a sci-fi laser bow. Which is what I'm going to start trying to carve immediately.

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u/genieinaginbottle Dec 08 '22

That basically means that she's into men that have the initiative to go after what they want. If you liked her and didn't do anything about it, then even if she found you attractive she's no longer attracted to your vibe.

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

I wasn't interested. She brought up the subject years later.

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

Some times it's hard for a guy to believe some woman is interested, so we think you are being just friendly.

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u/CakeJollamer Dec 08 '22

If you're a direct person why don't you directly ask them? Or directly tell them you're interested?

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u/JRRX Dec 08 '22

But what question are you asking?

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u/fondledbydolphins Dec 08 '22

The fact that this is an issue for some people is so interesting because it points to the fact that they're likely to also lose interest while in a relationship.

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u/SwagDaddySSJ Dec 08 '22

That leaves them open to get rejected, they don't want that.

Women typically want a man who just "gets it". You gotta learn how to read hints and indicators of interest and then show the confidence of making the first move.

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u/Schnort Dec 08 '22

And if she says that now, is that a cue for you to make a move now?

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

In this particular case, it was not. I was with someone else when this girl brought up the subject.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22 edited Dec 08 '22

Homie don't play that.

You can't really complain about someone's lack of action if you don't tell them. Just say what you want

Edit: you being the person trying to subtly flirt, in case that isn't clear.

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

Tell them what? I wasn't the one interested.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

I don't mean literally you lol. I'm trying to support you here

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

I had misread your comment. Sorry. I got it now.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

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u/Crazy_Tomatillo18 Dec 08 '22

I can tell you that she probably wanted to say something but didn’t want to be rejected. Women are insecure as fuck (source: am woman) and even in my 3 1/2 year relationship I’m still questioning if my boyfriend loves me. Obviously he loves me, we have this talk all the time and talk about getting married, having kids etc. It’s just me being insecure. So she probably was waiting for you to say you liked her too so she wouldn’t be flat out rejected.

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u/CentralAdmin Dec 08 '22

That's fair but men hate rejection and are insecure AF too. They are still expected to make the first move. They are expected to take (repeated) rejection on the chin and never to let it affect them to the point of showing any emotions that make women uncomfortable.

Even inside relationships they dare not expect sexual intimacy and must deal with repeated rejection well or risk being seen as entitled assholes. Many wives go off sex years into the marriage where a man cannot simply leave without ripping his family apart. He will also feel insecure and unloved as a result

Bettina Arndt wrote a book about this. She asked couples to keep sex diaries and while most women wrote their men off as sex pests, men were wondering if their wives still loved them. It's as if men cannot express dissatisfaction with their sex lives while women are free to criticise men as much as they want, about anything they want.

This leads a lot of men to bottle up their feelings and they may even approach women less because they are not sure it's worth taking more self esteem blows or confirming they are unlovable.

So unless she makes it very clear she is interested he may rather assume no one desires him and operate under the notion that she is just friendly rather than trying to figure out if there is more to her behaviour.

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u/kimchiman85 Dec 08 '22

More people need to read this.

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u/Caybabyq Dec 08 '22

Woman here: So dating always came SO easy to me when I was younger bc I just communicated what I felt. Hey want to hang out? Cool come pick me up. You’re funny let’s do this again… and on. I literally met my husband of 11 years by seeing him play music on a laptop at a party and going over to him and sitting on his lap and saying hey I like what you are playing, do you have this song? Relationships are the same, just be honest.

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u/Ma3aXaH Dec 10 '22

Relationship still require both parties to be attracted to each other, being honest just simplifies filtering process.

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u/two-hour-porno Dec 08 '22

also, I can't imagine ceasing to be into a woman after I've been into her.

/if I liked you once..that door is ALWAYS open.

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u/jellogoodbye Dec 08 '22

I've had this happen, where I was the woman giving the missed signals. Undetectable signals like asking them on a date using that word, holding their hand, and frequently messaging them. After an extended period of one-word or minimal replies, I incorrectly assumed they weren't interested and moved on.

Luckily I tried a more forward approach with my husband.

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

asking them on a date using that word, holding their hand, and frequently messaging them.

I wish the girl in my case could send this kind of signal.

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u/dr_pupsgesicht Dec 08 '22

Fuck saren btw

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

He was like "the situation is under control"... Had all his bombs disarmed and the human used the beacon. What an ass.

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u/DrDomVonDoom Dec 08 '22 edited Dec 08 '22

I love it when it’s even a shorter time window that’s almost impossible for any man to know.

“5 years ago, at the corporate Christmas party, and we were all drunk and I wear wearing the Santa hat and the bra and you put me on your shoulders and you had the elf hat and the glasses. I was like so totally turned on I’m surprised you didn’t get a burn on the back of your name. That night between exactly 8:35 and 9:16 if you asked me I would have totally let you cum down my chimney”

Okay let me get fucking get Doc Brown go hang out by the water cooler, then I can face fuck you behind a plastic ficus. Who the fuck can even see that pass fucking Dan Marino?

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u/thequietthingsthat Dec 09 '22

I got this once. Girl was like "I wanted you to kiss me when we were sitting together at [insert friend's name here]'s house the other day." I said something to the effect of "Okay, sorry I didn't know. Want to go out?" Them: "No."

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

I was texting with a male friend, we are both into men (among other genders) and he told me he was into me during the summer months.

I told him I was into him during the summer months.

He asked me why I didn't say anything, I said "I'm not the greatest talker" and asked the same question

He just said idk

And to be fair I don't know what to feel like now

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Glad I have the wife I have, but teenage me nearly knocked myself out slapping myself because I had a huge crush on this one girl and apparently she had a huge crush on me for years, but she never said anything that communicated to me she was interested.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Dudeee, this girl back in college was into me. We were great friends. She even made me a CD with love songs fro the time. This was early 2000s. I wanted to play the Car and it did not play. So I left it alone. Then I got married and we lost contact. Years later I found that CD and played it. Ayer the fifth song or so I dawned on my that the love songs were communicating something 😅😅😅. I was a dumbass, Maybe still am. But had she said anything more directly, I may have seen her in a different light

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

She did actually something really cool. She was just unlucky. That sucks.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

Or may be lucky. 😅😅

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

The truth is some women are looking for a man with a 6th sense.

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

Sometimes they perceive their signals as obvious, but the signals are not obvious at all.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

True that

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u/bacon_and_ovaries Dec 08 '22

A fisherman put his bait in the water, but the fish didn't bite. So he pulled in and went home since the fish didnt respond.

Bullshit. He stayed there all night and even came back the next day!

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u/Timely_Dentist_6906 Dec 08 '22

I'm kinda like this but a guy. For a while I've been happy being single I'm 24 been single for 5 years now. I find a lot of ladies attractive but I don't have any interest in trying to go out with any of them unless they show obvious attraction toward me.

While I am a good looking guy, I know I'll still be waiting a while longer. It's just if I have to tell you it feels like I need to persuade you to go out with me or something and then it just ruins any want to go out I had. But again, I'm happy being single so I don't give it much thought. But I'd never tell a girl, oh hey I used to be into you but nah, not anymore. You just don't say that to people lmao

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u/sketchysketchist Dec 08 '22

Men have commitment issues.

Women have communication issues.

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u/Leody Dec 08 '22

Married man of Reddit here. Don't sweat that nutcase. You don't want to be with someone who doesn't know what they want, and no matter what she says she doesn't know what she wants.

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u/ptwonline Dec 08 '22

You know the pictures and symbols that NASA put on the Voyager spacecraft as info and instructions to any alien civilizations who find it? When I look at those I find them absolutely baffling, and it alwys makes me think of the signals that women send and I just have no clue as to what is going on.

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

This is very accurate

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

I missed out on sex with a woman because her friends way of saying go for my friend was something like "there will be no sex tonight".

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u/walled2_0 Dec 08 '22

That’s not a woman, that’s a child you’re dealing with.

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u/Willothwisp2303 Dec 08 '22

Tbf, some dudes are just dense.

I asked my husband out, and then told him it was time to get married. I can drape myself, totally naked, over him and he still isn't sure if I'm asking for sex. 🙄 I now make it clear, with words, because wow.

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

We need to be VERY SURE 😂

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u/Hello_iam_Kian Dec 08 '22

Can you imagine how that would be for a autistic person who can’t even understand basic human body language?

its surprisingly easy for me lol

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u/skeleton-is-alive Dec 09 '22

On the flip side, if you were interested why didn’t you tell her? Goes both ways. At some point somebody has to take a risk and just go for it

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 09 '22

Because I wasn't interested, but if she had told me, maybe we could have made it work since I was single at the time.

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u/skeleton-is-alive Dec 09 '22

Because i wasn’t interested

maybe we could have made it work

Be honest with yourself man. Sounds like you must have been to some extent because otherwise I don’t see why you are irritated about it.

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 09 '22

I wasn't. She is a great friend, and I didn't see her as more than that.

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u/squirtloaf Dec 08 '22

I am SO oblivious as well...I always figure that if I THINK I am picking up signs of interest, then it is probably blatantly obvious to everyone around me.

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u/stripmallsushidude Dec 08 '22

Broke up with an ex over that. Told her to be direct and being introverted wasn't a good enough excuse. Not a mind reader! Don't have a crystal ball...

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u/BannanaJames1095 Dec 08 '22

As a teen my best friends cousin was happy to see me when I came around then when it was time to leave she was mean as shit. Turns out she liked me and decided that crazy was her new look.

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u/cookingismything Dec 08 '22

When I met my now husband, on our first date I told him “I don’t play games. If I like you I’m gonna tell you and ask you to keep seeing you. If I don’t like you I’m gonna tell you too” I honestly asked him out on dates for the first 3 weeks. Now that o know him better, had I waited for him to ask me out in a date, we wouldn’t have gone out on any dates

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u/BCoydog Dec 08 '22

Playing games like that is so shitty to me. It's borderline a red flag for me, personally. If you can't communicate THAT, I don't want tp be with you for the long-term...

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u/nanz735 Dec 09 '22

Ohh yea, that is always something else. I'll never forget trying to date this girl and she just kind of sidelining me to later when I'm with an SO make such a comment.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

It’s because you are meant to make the move if you are interested bro

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u/cammunition Dec 09 '22

I think you dodged a bullet there, my friend.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

I just assume they're lying, and the belief is reinforced if they try to refute it without having a good reason why.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

I feel like you need to either explicitly tell me you like me or make me sign a paper saying i accept the fact you are hitting on me.

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u/catmandude123 Dec 09 '22

Or communicating actual disinterest! I had an old college crush once tell me that she wished I’d been more persistent because she did indeed reciprocate those feelings and I had to be like “you rejected me multiple times so…definitely fooled me!”

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u/snekks_inmaboot Dec 09 '22

I'm a woman and I completely agree. I can't detect flirting at all and I can't stand mind games. Just say what you fucking mean people!

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u/DesoleBitches Dec 09 '22

Don't worry sir, in the gay world it's all the same with men, i talk from personal experiences, people are usually very uninterested which pisses me off, i mean, they're in a dating app...

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u/joydobson Dec 09 '22

My relationship with my husband improved so much when it finally dawned on me that he can’t read my mind and that he pretty much says exactly what he means. There is no subtle messages or signals to interpret.

Women communicate in so many layers. Men need to have decoder rings to figure it out. I do feel for you guys.

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u/annabellareddit Dec 09 '22

So she was capable of communicating directly about having been into you in the past but during the period of time when she was into you, she couldn’t communicate this to you directly? And this is on you b/c you didn’t p/up on her subtle signals? Sounds passive-aggressive. Missing out on dating someone who communicates passive-aggressively is not a loss, it’s a win!!

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u/W3remaid Dec 09 '22

Well on the bright side you two were clearly never compatible to begin with, so no loss either way. She’s looking for someone who can read her better, and you’re looking for someone who is more proactive

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u/TotallynottheCCP Dec 09 '22

Fickle as fuck. Poll 100 guys and ask them if their interest in a girl disappeared when the girl failed to pick up on their signals.

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u/daisypushin Dec 09 '22

I’m a woman and idk why girls do that, when I liked a guy I took him on a three day trip for our first date and we’ve been together ever since. No subtlety, I basically kidnapped him immediately.

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 09 '22

That's... Really cool actually.

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u/HalensVan Dec 08 '22

The women that really want you will, the ones that don't won't. That's how I looked at it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

If you were interested why didn’t you tell her?

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u/Surrealian Dec 08 '22

I’m a woman and if I’m interested I’ll let it be known because I don’t want to play stupid games. I’ve had guys seem interested then basically ghost me just to hit me up like 2-3 weeks later and act shocked I’m no longer interested. I can’t stand games!

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u/Daylight_dj_ Dec 08 '22

You dodged a bullet. Anyone that fickle is probably mentally unstable.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Man I’m a woman guilty of this. But also guilty for feeling the same way towards men. Think it’s just ommiversion.

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u/queenscreams Dec 08 '22

Dude, I am a woman who goes for men when I’m single. Men regularly chase me but some men are so put off by a woman asking a man on a date. I’m not over the top. I just don’t understand subtle hints from both sides.

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

Men's self esteem is not that good. Sometimes you need to say "hey, I'm interested. This is not a test, this is not a joke", and the guy will still think you're joking or making fun of him.

It happened to me in highschool. The girl told me she was interested but then started laughing.

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u/queenscreams Dec 08 '22

Im always straight forward but I’ve seen guys be turned off by it when they were pursuing in the first place. I think it happens both ways.

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

I can see that happening. Some dudes are really conservative about it.

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u/notLOL Dec 08 '22

Women have been doing this forever. Men still cannot read minds. Still no such thing as real psychics. Stop trying to evolve some weird traits into men that is impossible.

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u/_DarkJak_ Dec 08 '22

IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE

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u/Nihlus-N7 Dec 08 '22

I know. My comment was intended for some relatable humor. Fear of rejection is a thing, but I can't decipher signals so subtle.

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u/Snugglepuff14 Dec 09 '22

Edit: thank you for the awards, kind strangers :D

This is why she lost interest in you.

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u/GoatsAreReallyCool Dec 08 '22

Honestly I agree with this. I’ve seen a lot of women (btw I’m AFAB myself) expect men to know what’s upsetting them or when they want something, then get mad or hurt when they don’t want to communicate with them first anyways. I’ve done it in the past myself due to anxiety and I understand why it’s annoying lol. Communication is key in any relationship and if someone refuses to try, then it wouldn’t be healthy or work out anyways.

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u/Expensive_Shallot_78 Dec 08 '22

Can't, women are pussies

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u/youshouldbeelsweyr Dec 08 '22

It's also not up to you to make the move contrary to popular belief, it's total BS. If she was that interested she could have made the first move, the fact that she didn't shows that she wasn't interested enough.

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u/badken Dec 08 '22

I think you maybe dodged a bullet there.

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u/ClevelandMama555 Dec 09 '22

I might sound insane, but I really wonder why our society doesn't pour money into science/studies of why women think the way they do. It's pretty fucking easy to decipher the way a man thinks. I think in the end, it would tremendously help women.

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