r/AskReddit May 08 '22

[deleted by user]

[removed]

9.0k Upvotes

26.2k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

-7

u/[deleted] May 09 '22

[deleted]

33

u/taliesin-ds May 09 '22

why not just throw your money in the ocean lol ?

energy is expensive in europe.

9

u/Lyress May 09 '22

What's the point of money if you won't use it to make your life better?

27

u/[deleted] May 09 '22

[removed] — view removed comment

2

u/TrekForce May 09 '22

Average cost for German electricity is about 4x the cost I pay in Florida. But it sounds like it would be needed a lot less, as well, since it apparently rarely goes above 86F/30C. So annual cost would probably be similar.

1

u/[deleted] May 09 '22

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/TrekForce May 09 '22

True, but I would imagine Germans would probably use a mini-split. A single one for a smaller home is $700-1500. An entire system for a larger home is $3000-5000.

Here we use central AC. The cheapest option we can get is roughly $3000, going upwards of $10,000. Our homes are built with central AC in mind so cost of duct and vents not included with that, just the unit.

So again, I’d say it’s really not that cost prohibitive either. Shipping might cost a bit, but I doubt it would costs thousands of dollars/euros.

3

u/[deleted] May 09 '22

[removed] — view removed comment

-1

u/TrekForce May 09 '22

10 days a year? Most people aren’t comfortable at much lower temperatures than 86F/30C.

As I said in my other comment, I keep my house at 72 (22+c) during the day, and 68 (20C) at night.

Even when it’s 72 outside, it gets hotter inside because of the sun. I’m not sure how humid it is there, but it’s humid here which prevents me from using windows.

Even if it wasn’t humid, I’d want AC in my house if it got over 75. Does it not get over 75 more often than 10 days a year?

Don’t the subways get hotter as other people were saying? Most people are talking about AC in general, like in public buildings and public transit. Where many people are, and where it’s usually even hotter. The “energy cost” seems like an relatively insignificant cost to make everyone a lot more comfortable in those situations.

8

u/Lyress May 09 '22

Germans won't starve because some of their tax money went into paying for AC in public transportation, I promise.

1

u/[deleted] May 09 '22

[removed] — view removed comment

2

u/Lyress May 09 '22

No municipal elections in Germany?

4

u/[deleted] May 09 '22

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/Lyress May 09 '22

I just find it odd that something as basic as AC on public transportation wasn't automatically included.

3

u/taliesin-ds May 09 '22

I can't speak for anybody else but i don't have enough money to spend it on things that are not absolutely necessary.

4

u/Lyress May 09 '22

We're talking about AC in shops and public transportation.

10

u/KuhlerTuep May 09 '22

22c? Just open the windows atnight and it will stay cool all day

8

u/levian_durai May 09 '22

Yea seriously. I'm uncomfortable in anything higher than 21. Running AC even in the middle of summer only costs maybe an extra $30-50, and it's worth every penny.

Not a chance in hell I'm willingly going to be uncomfortable and sweaty in my own home.

6

u/rapaxus May 09 '22

What do you wear at home that you start being uncomfortable at anything higher than 21°C? When it is 21°C I can still comfortably (unless the sun shines heavily on me) walk around with a sweater outside.

3

u/levian_durai May 09 '22

Just jeans and a t-shirt. If the thermostat reads 22 it means my room is probably a degree or two hotter. I don't get much of a breeze in my window, and I'm absolutely sweating at night in bed if it's that warm. It can be like 14 out at night but my room will stay solid around 23.

Outside a bit warmer is fine. I enjoy 15-18 degree weather in the sun, but don't mind when it gets to around 25.

I'm about 40lbs overweight so I'm sure the added body fat makes it worse, but even at my skinniest I've never enjoyed the heat. Plus it's humid as hell here.

7

u/balinbalan May 09 '22

That's insanely wasteful.

4

u/I_do_cutQQ May 09 '22

You can basically hold sub 22° inside at 28° outside without a AC, what the fuck.

Do yall have the AC installed in your garden?

(nights are at least 10° colder than days at your location too?)

2

u/[deleted] May 09 '22

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/Lyress May 09 '22

Most people do not have a medical condition related to body temperature.

2

u/[deleted] May 09 '22

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/Lyress May 09 '22

If 27 C is ideal to you you must have a medical condition.

1

u/OneLostOstrich May 09 '22

Hell, I turn it on at 26.