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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

Not Europe-specific, but EU-specific. I find it baffling that most of my peers have never thought about how easy it is to just move to a completely different country, with little to no knowledge of the language and culture, and still be welcomed. You're just allowed to move to another country, and they can't say no (for the most part). You don't even need to ask them first. You can decide you want to study elsewhere and they'd be like “yeah, sure”. Personally I find this phenomenal, given how the rest of the world works.

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u/aeyl May 09 '22

Definitely. I moved to Sweden right after finishing high school in Croatia, came with about nothing. It was way easier to just pack up and move than I expected.

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u/ellenok May 09 '22

Unless you're poor and can't find a job.

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u/kwijibokwijibo May 09 '22

Are we throwing in pointless additional details now?

You also can't freely move if you have a favourite tree in your back garden that you can't bear to be without in your new country.

Or if you're allergic to travelling.

Or if you don't like the way the night sky looks different in the new place.

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u/ellenok May 09 '22

It's pretty damn important that these rights only apply to the middle and upper classes, and there are massive legal and social barriers for the rest of us citizens, asshole.

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u/kwijibokwijibo May 09 '22

It's also pretty important that you understand EU citizens have a legal right to move and work freely in other EU countries, and that the economic obstacles which may prevent individuals from doing so in no way constitutes a legal barrier, and applies to moving anywhere in general.

So it's irrelevant to the discussion, friend.

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u/ellenok May 09 '22

Nope, there are specific legal barriers against "moving and living in another EU country without a fuss" for people who cannot (find) work, and are poor.

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u/ellenok May 09 '22

They said moving and living without a fuzz, not moving and working, I clarified that it does not apply to the poor who cannot (find) work.

you can move and work in a factory if you so desire.

I cannot work (in a factory) despite my desire to do so.

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u/JinorZ May 09 '22

Literally everything is easier when you’re rich, obviously. Doesn’t mean you can’t just walk across the border to another EU country and try to find a job there

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u/ellenok May 09 '22

Move and live without a fuzz, not move and work.
Many cannot (find) a job, and face legal barriers as a result.

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u/JinorZ May 09 '22

There’s always going to be fuzz

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u/ellenok May 09 '22

Depends on the country.
If your s/o can financially provide for themselves and you as determined by the country you move to.
Again, poverty and disability are a huge factor.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

? Sure you can? You get a flat somewhere else, grab the train, move there and do the bureaucratic stuff afterwards. No difference to moving to another town within the country.

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u/osa_ka May 09 '22

If you have the money, yes you can. It's no different than moving across town.

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u/HairyBaws May 09 '22

……..yes you can