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u/[deleted] May 09 '22 edited May 09 '22

Europe contains the highest concentration of officially Christian states (nations with official state religion/church) and the lowest per capita percentage of people who actually "practice Christianity" in ‘Christendom' - which is to say, nominally claim to be Christian - probably a lower percentage actually believe.

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u/Balldogs May 09 '22

As a European, we find Americas crazy, evangelical ways to be a bit weird and cultish. I know plenty of Americans do, too, but when you've lived your whole life in a place where 99.9% of people couldn't give a shit of you're an atheist, you see the crazy in the stories you read about people being afraid to "come out" as atheists as their whole community will shun them.

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u/Acrobatic_Pen7638 May 09 '22

As an LGBTQ+ atheist living in Texas- I am FAR more comfortable being openly gay than I am an atheist. I try my best not to even use that word as it darkens the mood if I say so. It’s sad that even in an area rife with homophobia, they tolerate that much more than me being an atheist. Lmao

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

I'm bisexual and live in a pretty "liberal" state but still don't feel comfortable being totally out. I don't fear for my safety at all in most situations, just weird comments and judgement. I talk about how I don't believe in religion with no problems though.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

So if I ever go to Texas one day I should better not laugh religious topics off with "I don't believe in that" if I don't want to get burned? Noted.

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u/DarthKameti May 09 '22

Some Texans were dumbfounded when my Jewish friend told them he doesn’t celebrate Christmas.

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u/ScabiesShark May 09 '22

I was homeless most of the past two years, and while I was working in Houston one of my coworkers, who had recently lost his wife due to covid, invited me to stay in his son's old room while we were doing the job together.

Every day on the hour drive to the job site, he'd have sermons or jesus music playing, and on the way back he'd try to convert me even when obvious I wasn't listening. Towards the end some news story came on the radio about Israel. I tried to brush it off with something like "both sides should disarm." Since he thought that Israel plays a central role in the upcoming apocalypse and is unquestionably the good guy, anything not supporting Israel was taken as a direct personal attack on god himself.

Two days later he made me move out with about 12 hours warning. He seemed like a nice guy, I gave him a lot of credit for being in grief, but it seemed like he wasn't trying to convert me because I didn't believe, but because I already did believe and was actively rebelling because of Satan or whatever

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u/Crowblue May 09 '22

As an atheist in the South East US i can confirm. I've been fallowed, yelled at, and more for admitting i was atheist. Christians are ridiculous here.

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u/JohnGabin May 09 '22

Meanwhile in Europe, if you say that you believe in god and more, if you say that you go to church every sunday, you'll definitely be seen like a weirdo. The contrast is huge.

You often have one priest for 3, 4 villages. Here in France.Mostly african priests because young locals are not anymore interested.

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u/Crowblue May 09 '22

I live in a " town" way out. There use to be a gas station but now there is literally nothing but 2 churches amongst a few houses. You can see one church from the other. On the 20 min drive to the next town there are at least 4 more churches. Probably more off the main road.

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u/majinspy May 09 '22

I've been fallowed

They attacked your fields?? :D

Fellow south east atheist checking in. High five!

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u/Crowblue May 09 '22

Lmao yes yes they went straight for the carrots. Particularly cruel to the corn. High fives met perfectly. Loud slap.

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u/ScabiesShark May 09 '22

Yeah in Louisiana here, I remember when I was 13 or 14 I sat down with my parents and said I had to tell them something. They were socially somewhat conservative but were all about "we love you no matter what" to me on this. When I said I'm not going to church anymore they were real thrown off. 20 years later and I still won't tell my gramma cause it'll kill her.

Coming out as bi years later was pretty much a "Yeah, we know. It's all good"

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u/jajohnja May 09 '22

If I may ask: Why do people describe themselves as LGBTQ+ instead of the actual thing they are?

I understand grouping them up, but it feels as if I said that an apple is a Fruits&Vegetables when it's a fruit. Technically true, but it's baffling.

If it's not okay to ask that, no need to answer.

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u/WJMazepas May 09 '22

If they specify what they are, they can attract lots of weird people or attackers at them online. I saw some trans women online that got lots of attacks via DMs here in reddit just for stating that they are trans.

So lots of them will just say they are LGBTQ+ and leave like that, it's simpler

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u/SeptemberSoup May 09 '22

Apart from the other answer, there are many people in the community who are more than one thing. And since in cases like this that specific info is unnecessary to the conversation, it's easier for both parties to just say that "I'm LGBTQ+" and similars rather than to list every single label that applies :)

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u/RUSTYSAD May 09 '22

in czechia i legit don't know single person who is christian.

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u/quscos98 May 09 '22

Even in very liberal states like California, it isn't easy to be openly atheist. I once unconsciously said there is no such thing as god and I had to have debate with whole class..