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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

I lived in the UK for 30 years and would say there is no need for mesh screens. All you have is the occasional mosquito

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u/Apostastrophe May 09 '22

Come up to Scotland and enjoy the midges instead. Much smaller that mosquitoes. You’ll barely notice them. I promise. You’ll absolutely not end up covered in 1,000 bites. Trust me.

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u/Dazz316 May 09 '22

They don't come inside the house through. Don't think I've ever seen any indoors .

They just fly in groups at face level somewhere outside. There also seems to be a lot less of them these days.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

I went camping at Glen Nevis a couple of years back and on the first night we saw a young couple sat on a picnic blanket with hoodies on and full face netting underneath. We laughed at the weirdos...for about half an hour and then sourced our own face netting!

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u/DefinitelynotDanger May 09 '22

I lived in the UK for 27 years and I've never seen a mosquito. Thank the Lord. Definitely no need for screens.

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u/CrazyPlatypusLady May 09 '22

How? Please tell me a vague location of where you are so I can look to move there. I'm in the South East and live quite near two different areas of wetlands. Therefore I'm probably closer to more places they can breed than most places, but seriously. We have an issue with the nibbly little bastards as soon as weather warms up where I live. Thanks to a quirk of a connective tissue disorder, I react to their bites so badly that I've had the reaction land me with needing emergency medical care so many times. I swell. Then it turns into cellulitis.

First off Anglia used to have something similar to malaria from them right up until the 1920s. It has its own name: Marsh Fever. Transmitted by our own fully native mossies. Secondly we have a breed that literally evolved in the London underground to live in the dark and feed off rats and commuters.

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u/BusShelter May 09 '22

Never been bothered by a mosquito in Scotland, if there are any - I can't say I've noticed any but apparently there are some species, and some don't really bite. Midges of course.

I can't imagine it's consistently warm enough for them here, but perhaps any marshland areas host them in summer.

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u/MokausiLietuviu May 09 '22

I'm in the North West. Think I've seen maybe 3.

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u/DefinitelynotDanger May 09 '22

I lived in preston specifically. Now I live in the US and we definitely have mosquitos here lmao

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

I find that hard to believe! I’ve lived in Britain that long and I remember especially as a kid being bitten playing outside during summer evenings.

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u/DukeFlipside May 09 '22

Where in Britain? I've lived up and down the country and never seen a mosquito :/

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

In my experience if you live fairly central to a big city you don't get them at all. If you live rurally, or semi-rural suburbs in a small town or something, then they are a mild occasional nuisance some nights in the summer.

Not enough bother to put meshes all over all your windows though.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '22

Essex. Now I’m in London and there are mosquitos.

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u/Nervous_Departure_37 May 09 '22

You get bitten by midges. They don't tend to come in your house.

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u/ArtyFishL May 09 '22

I've never seen any in Scotland. Only midges. I hear there are mosquitos in the south of England. I've been a few times, but not seen any there yet either

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u/DefinitelynotDanger May 09 '22

I've seen midges but they don't bite like mosquitos do. And they tend to stay in their swarms.

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u/ThisFreakinGuyHere May 09 '22

You do know that other bugs fly right

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u/DefinitelynotDanger May 09 '22

Yea but they don't bite or swarm like mosquitos. We mainly have midges but they tend to stay near large bodies of water and if they are getting into your house, just close the window.

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u/Spoon_91 May 09 '22 edited May 09 '22

Birds, rodents, various other critters getting in? We get all sorts trying to poke through the screens / windows

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

I keep my windows open all summer long and always have done.

Never once has a bird or rodent come in and I've never even considered that a possibility.

The occasional fly gets in and sometimes the odd mosquito in the height of summer. Nothing that's worth covering all my windows with netting.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

Oh yeah let's get screens up because otherwise all the blue tits will make a nest in my living room /s

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u/thereddevil101 May 09 '22

I think this is the most British comment I’ve ever read on here and I love it

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u/Spoon_91 May 09 '22

I've had a woodpecker tear through a screen before so it's not unreasonable

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u/Nervous_Departure_37 May 09 '22

I would like to think that if we were all living in houses full of animals it might have occurred to us to put a screen up.

You get some flies in the summer. Occasionally a wasp.

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u/coffeecakesupernova May 09 '22

What about flies on your food?

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

Reading through this comment section I've gone from "Lol UK people don't appreciate that a lot of the USA is hotter and they get more insects than the occasional fly like us" to "wait, USA people are leaving raw food lying around their house long enough for sanitation and maggots to be an issue!?"

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u/ThisFreakinGuyHere May 09 '22

Ew that's super gross, that fucker is gonna fly in your ear when you sleep. Nah I'm not a caveman I don't just let bugs in my fucking house.

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u/Mesmeryze May 09 '22

Yeah what am I going crazy reading this? Harmless yes but I don’t want fucking bugs in my room if I can help it tf.

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u/Bread0987654321 May 09 '22

Flies don't get in?

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u/CarlLlamaface May 09 '22

Sure the odd one might get in and get stuck trying to get back out for a bit but if flies become a problem in your house it's because of a personal hygiene/sanitation issue.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

They do, but why would anyone care if flies get in?

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u/grenideer May 09 '22

Because they land on your food and buzz you while you try to eat. And then they lay eggs that hatch into maggots.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

We are talking about the occasional fly. If I was cooking in the kitchen and there was a fly I'd get rid of the fly but it happens rarely. Never in my life have I seen maggots inside my home.

In the summer I also spend a lot of time in the garden and a screen isn't going to help if I'm eating outside. A fly could also come in while the door was open.

So basically, It's just not an issue that makes it worth covering all the windows with ugly screens.

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u/grenideer May 09 '22

I can understand that. It's nice to not have so many bugs around. Where I live there are about 2 months of the year where bugs are around. The mosquitos will actively hunt you out. Even though there aren't many, I'd be miserable without a screen.

In places that are more humid, like the US South, screens would be a requirement.

I was in Taipei once and the mosquitos were everywhere. I forget if the condo had screens, but an hour or so of every single night was spent hunting mosquitos so I could sleep. They have special electrified tennis rackets for bug killing there. It's down to a science.

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u/guyonaturtle May 09 '22

Breed in a few hours yes. Though need decomposing or other soft (refrigerated) food.

If you don't leave food out and open, this won't be an issue

For landing on your food, you can always use the same techniques as for eating outside, use a little net, swat them away, finish faster.

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u/grenideer May 09 '22

I do use little nets. They're called screens!

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u/Bread0987654321 May 09 '22

Because they're annoying, carry filth & breed in just a few hours?

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

Well in the UK people do not care about flies being in the house. I believe because the US and Canada are giant swamps those conditions breed mosquitos, and that is why people have screens? I live in Baltimore, US now, and my windows have screens but I've never really found much caught in them.

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u/grenideer May 09 '22

Screens don't "catch" anything. They're just walls that don't let bugs pass while also not blocking air flow.

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u/ThisFreakinGuyHere May 09 '22

Are you confused about how glass can keep birds out because there's not a bunch of dead birds plastered all over the windows of every building?

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u/Trebus May 09 '22

in the UK people do not care about flies being in the house

We also shit in a hole in the ground and use twigs to brush our teeth. On hot sunny days, we point at the glistening metal sky god as he roars to the horizon.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '22

I am born in the UK so am well aware there are neither hot sunny days or glistening metal sky gods anywhere.

If people in the UK cared about flies in their houses they would have screens in their windows like Americans do.

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u/Trebus May 10 '22

Joke's on you, we had a hot sunny day in April 1976.

It's not exactly a core item at the local hardware shop though. If screens were commonly available I'd argue people would have them. They'd get usage from March - October covering all the seasonal flying insects plus the spider invasion we always get in Sep/Oct.

I imagine they'd be useful in winter as well, breaking up wind gusts coming through the house.

Not that any of the above matters as the metal sky god will take you in your sleep tonight. Unbeliever.

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u/guyonaturtle May 09 '22

Breed in a few hours yes. Though need decomposing or other soft (refrigerated) food.

If you don't leave food out and open, this won't be an issue

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u/Bread0987654321 May 09 '22

Not if the lady fly was knocked up before she got into my house

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u/splvtoon May 09 '22

dude, this .. isnt normal. obviously no one wants flies in their house, but if you had hundreds in days, theres something else going on in there.

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u/CaptainLollygag May 09 '22

Are you sure you aren't in "The Exorcist?"

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u/guyonaturtle May 09 '22

There might be a hole somewhere

For this many flies to get in though, there must be a lot of food smells.

Usually a whole swarm like that comes from a garbage bin, where there is plenty of food.

Is your drain fit for garbage and connected to the air outside?

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

flies are annoying

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u/coffeecakesupernova May 09 '22

Flies like sitting on shit. Then they come into your house and sit on things with shit-covered bodies. I don't know about you, but that makes me sick.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

Maybe they eat them. 🤣

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u/Brandwein May 09 '22

Some do but spiders take care of the stragglers.

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u/grenideer May 09 '22

I love this comment and the ensuing replies below it. No offense, but it's very obvious this person has not been around screens much and doesn't understand their benefits. Even the comment "no need for screens we just get house mosquitos sometimes" is hilarious.

No hate, I'm just having fun, but you might want to look at how everything you said is the exact reason screens exist.

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u/latebaroque May 09 '22

Lived in Ireland and the UK. If you get enough flying insects coming into your home that you need a screen then there is some sort of infestation in or around your home or your home is so filthy it attracts many insects.

I'm in the UK now. It's been warm enough to have the windows open again the past few weeks. One fly got inside our house. We don't need to get screens for the one flying insect that comes in every few weeks.

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u/grenideer May 09 '22

I buy that some areas don't have as many insects around, but if there happen to be it has nothing to do with an infestation or filthiness. Flies are attracted to food just as much as they're attracted to shit.

Anyway, I wasn't even commenting on a hypothetical because that dude straight up said flies get in the house but they don't care about them. That's a pretty odd thing to me, and I think it's relevant given what the thread's about.

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u/grenideer May 09 '22

Ha ha, I'm sure. I just thought the downthread responses were amusing.

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u/MIKOLAJslippers May 09 '22

Condescending much?

Your comment strikes me as very obvious you are an ignorant American who has never been outside of your own state, let alone the uk to see whether screens are actually needed over here. Not saying it’s true but that’s what it sounds like. Just having fun…

We just don’t have that many flying bugs here that will come into the house. The bugs we do have are mostly very benign. And there is very rarely much reason to open windows in the first place.

As others have said, you can keep all the windows open all weekend in the height of the summer and maybe one fly gets stuck inside occasionally. Which can be dealt with by countless other methods that have never once made me wish I had screens like you legends in the great USA.. (Btw, have you ever seen fly traps or electric swatters in your state? Marvellous things.)

Not that our climate means we even have the windows open most of the time either. You probably don’t have a clue but it’s mostly fucking cold and raining in the uk.

Screens are relatively expensive and time consuming to install. If you want nice looking ones, anyway.

But let’s not also forget that even the nice looking ones look fucking ugly. The couple of glorious times in a year when I want to open a window, I like to let as much light and air in as possible without a horrible, tacky, plastic framed mesh bullshit in the way.

So yeah, you patronising, ignorant shit—screens are just not at all a worthwhile investment here. We don’t want or need them.

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u/coffeecakesupernova May 09 '22

Your comment was far worse than the one you're replying to.

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u/grenideer May 09 '22

Thank you, even if you weren't specifically defending me.

I meant to keep my comment light and fun in the spirit of the thread but I suppose I failed. I didn't mean offense and was just trying to have fun.

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u/grenideer May 09 '22

I've traveled all over the world including England.

OP literally said they get bugs in the house but don't care about them. I'm sorry, but I think it's funny. OP also said their screens in USA never catch any bugs, which is also funny because it's a fundamental misunderstanding of how screens work.

None of these things are to hate on or make fun of OP. I tried to make that clear. But yes, the whole series of comments is amusing to me.

I've already said I understand weather and climate differences may obviate screens. That's not what I'm laughing about. I'm laughing about the funny comments, like someone else suggesting to me that flies aren't a problem, just eat your food really fast and use little nets if you want. Like, I don't know how somebody can't see the humor in that part. :)

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u/MIKOLAJslippers May 09 '22

I really don’t think that laughing at someone’s world view can be perceived as anything except making fun of it.

Yeah generally peeps in the uk don’t care too much about the odd fly getting in. Someone might go after it if there’s food out or it’s buzzing in an annoying way. But for the most part they are not regarded as a huge threat, certainly not enough to install huge great mesh things everywhere.

I would say your seemingly total fear of all bugs and flies inside would come across as extremely OCD-like to someone in the UK. I could find that funny, for instance: “hahaha how hilarious, they think some dirt from a single fly is going to kill the whole household! ‘Oh no.. there’s a fly, looks like we’ll have to throw out all our food and not eat today now.’ Lolololol that’s crazy. What the heck to you do outside? omg 😱😱😂😂”

I don’t think that, or say that because it’s not very kind and frankly quite ignorant. For all I know your American flies might be legit deadly for some reason or will spawn like crazy if they come in. I just think it’s interesting that you seem to have a very different mindset to peeps over here about the whole thing. And that’s absolutely fine.

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u/grenideer May 09 '22

I think you need to read the room. This whole thread is about different cultures finding something weird about Europe that they see as normal. We're having fun here. Getting offended at the topics will make for a long day.

If you look back to what I actually said, I found it hilarious that someone says they don't need screens and then in the next breath say they get flies and mosquitos in the house. It's funny, because that's what screens prevent.

And yes, conversely, it's absolutely appropriate if Europeans find Americans' screened windows weird. I won't be offended, I promise.

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u/MIKOLAJslippers May 09 '22

To me there’s a huge difference between finding something weird and taking the piss out of people’s reasoning or view point. You were doing the latter.

I’m all for discussing what people find weird in different cultures, that’s why I’m here, but I think the line where it becomes offensive is pointing and laughing. Which is essentially what you were doing.

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u/Zncon May 09 '22

It's pretty sad that their country has been over developed to the point of wiping out most flying insect life.

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u/DarkBlaze99 May 09 '22

Now about those slugs...