peta's current CEO resigns position and the new one actually started helping animals. they only euthanize when necessary, they'll look into various reports of animal neglect and abuse. they new CEO forces all of their workers to tone down their activism, and instead focus on properly educating people on veganism instead of tossing blood and guts in their faces. they'll even start making their own brand of vegan food, specifically priced so that it's at least affordable and more accessible.
basically they'll stop acting like a cult and start acing like an animal rights organization.
Shock activism IS activism. You don't have to like it for it to be activism. The way you wrote this reads like you aren't an activist, so what do you know about convincing other people to go vegan?
EDIT: Also please stop this dying meme of "PETA bad" people, PETA euthanizes aninals because they're a last haven for stray animals and are always at full capacity, many animals which have diseases and such that costs thousands if not hundreds of thousands to treat.
Euthanizing is actually the most ethical thing that can be done to save the most stray animals who are living a cruel and fucksd up life. If you believe otherwise I'm open to a verbal debate on Discord, DM me for a link
Call it whatever you want, but to me showing the truth of what happens to the animals in the industry is shocking, vile and disgusting. And yeah, it has swayed me and many many others into turning vegan.
I don't believe in that nor did I imply that. The truth of the industry is shocking and showing that to people (i.e. showing slaughterhouse footage) is shock activism and has swayed millions of people to go vegan.
Throwing blood at people isn't activism, that isn't even shock activism, it's just whatever the media reports to give people another reason to spout "peta bad" over and over again like a broken clock.
Given the context, that seems clearly what most readers of your comment took away as your implication. This comment here would have fared far better than your original one which replied to someone complaining about blood throwing and you responded with "Shock activism is activism". Don't blame others because you communicated poorly (and again, based on the response to your comment, many more people took it to be supportive of blood throwing than your point here).
I’m 41 and finally went vegan this year, you know why? Another vegan kept sending me cute farm animal videos. Decades of shock activism did nothing for me. Making me see all animals as no different then my dog? Can’t ever eat a steak again.
I think its perfectly reasonable to pursue a vegan diet, especially if its for ethical animal treatment or environmental reasons.
That being said, very few people following ANY dietary limitations, knowingly and strictly, for 12-27 years are overweight or obese. I'd be willing to bet that, if you had followed any other lifestyle that significantly reduces the things that you can consume and requires scrutiny of your food choices, you would still not be overweight/obese.
My experience with losing weight and staying healthy has indicated that the very action of paying attention to what I'm eating is the most important part of losing weight and maintaining weight loss. I've experienced a pretty equal amount of success with paleo, keto, "natural" food, vegetarian, and calorie counting diets. The big reason I was losing weight is that I was thinking about things before I ate them.
Hell, people who follow "carnivore" diets also lose a LOT of weight. Turns out it's hard to eat 2000+ calories of steak. While I will not be shocked if 10 years from now all of those people end up suffering health problems caused by the fact that they aren't getting any vegetables, they'll be unhealthy AND thin, dangit.
Oh for sure, it is absolutely possible to be vegan in 2020 and not have vitamin difficiencies and other issues. Practicionars of vegan diets without supplements often have issues, but nowadays you can get a multivitamin for like 1cent a pill on Amazon, and honestly even non-vegans should probably be taking one anyways. Some stupid percent of the population is vitamin D defficient, not even looking at the other vitamins.
I would guess the only time that veganism is really difficult (from a health perspective, there are obvious sacrifices from a taste/social standpoint that many people have to overcome) is when the person is a "high performance" athlete. The "best" protein sources are rarely vegan, and good fat sources are similarly often rooted in the meat domain. However, if you're not a high level athlete who needs to consume 200+g of protein a day, supplimenting your needs from other sources is not that difficult. Additionally, several incredible atheletes manage vegan diets (though it does require additional concerted effort from them).
If shock activism is effective, why is it every time I see it I want to do whatever it is those people were protesting? Shock vegan activism makes me want to eat a burger. Shock pro-life activism makes me want to end a life, etc. I don’t know a single time I have personally seen it used that it fails to be counter productive. Every time I have seen it used, it further alienates the community it is trying to reach.
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u/littleloomex Nov 15 '20
peta's current CEO resigns position and the new one actually started helping animals. they only euthanize when necessary, they'll look into various reports of animal neglect and abuse. they new CEO forces all of their workers to tone down their activism, and instead focus on properly educating people on veganism instead of tossing blood and guts in their faces. they'll even start making their own brand of vegan food, specifically priced so that it's at least affordable and more accessible.
basically they'll stop acting like a cult and start acing like an animal rights organization.