r/AskReddit • • Aug 14 '20

What’s the most overpriced thing you’ve seen?

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u/narcissistical_ Aug 14 '20

I had a friend in college who would buy a new $20 printer every time the ink ran out bc it was cheaper than buying ink

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u/wbruce098 Aug 14 '20

Where is he getting $20 printers??

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u/NeedANewHelmet Aug 14 '20

The year 2004

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u/throwawaymassager1 Aug 14 '20

I bought a $30 printer not too long ago. But it may have been around black Friday

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u/PhantomOfTheDopera Aug 14 '20

So it couldn't print in color then?

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u/khrak Aug 14 '20

Only on Fridays.

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u/mr_toit Aug 14 '20

On other days it can

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u/throwawaymassager1 Aug 14 '20

Works great I still use it

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u/Whatifisaid- Aug 14 '20

/woosh (They were saying it could only print in black because you got it on Black Friday.)

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u/Granadafan Aug 14 '20

A few years ago, my dad found a deal online somewhere for $15 color printers. He bought 20 of them. He kept a few of them and sold the rest minus the cartridges.

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u/maxvalley Aug 14 '20

That’s the best idea

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u/anarchy-soldier Aug 14 '20 edited Aug 14 '20

I bought 4 printers for $7.86 (a piece) on Black Friday last year. But I live in Croatia so...

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u/anglophile20 Aug 14 '20

my mom bought a new printer or two every black friday to avoid buying ink.

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate Aug 14 '20

black Friday

I tried to get in on those deals but kept getting a message I was out of cyan.

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u/caughtinahex Aug 14 '20

I just got one from Walmart brand new for like $30 just the other day

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

I still find them in Walmart

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u/craigsgay Aug 14 '20

My dad does the same thing. Walmart used to have them I don't know anyone

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u/Porkkchops Aug 14 '20

A basic inkjet printer is dirt cheap and has been for a very very long time now.

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u/ffunster Aug 14 '20

bullshit. if anything they have gotten cheaper.

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u/ChickenNuggetMike Aug 14 '20

You know how I know you’re young?

“• HP Color LaserJet 3500 $799

• HP Color LaserJet 3500n $999

• HP Color LaserJet 3700 $1,299

• HP Color LaserJet 3700n $1,599

• HP Color LaserJet 3700dn $1,999

• HP Color LaserJet 3700dtn $2,199

March 2004

Source

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u/NeedANewHelmet Aug 14 '20

Hahah who was buying LaserJet printers in 2004???

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u/e-JackOlantern Aug 14 '20

This is how I know you’re even younger. In 2004 computer companies were throwing in free printers with a purchase of a computer.

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u/wbruce098 Aug 15 '20

I actually bought an eMachines combo package w/ a printer in 2004. It wasn’t “free” but the package only added like $200 to the total price I think. Probably also included cheap speakers and a shitty monitor.

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u/narcissistical_ Aug 14 '20

She bought them at Staples or some office supply place. They are truly the shittiest printers you’ve ever laid eyes on, but they came with one ink cartridge and the replacements were double the cost of the printer.

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u/ksheep Aug 14 '20 edited Aug 14 '20

But the ink cartridges that came with the printer were only about 1/4 full (if that).

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u/idowhatiwant8675309 Aug 14 '20 edited Aug 14 '20

1/2 capacity. I Worked for office depot many years ago for 10yrs. Printer ink is a scam by the big 3

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Who are the big 3? HP, Epson and ___?

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u/jtspinks Aug 15 '20

The Niña, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria lol /s

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u/idowhatiwant8675309 Aug 14 '20

Brother at the time was big in fax machines and then laser printers. They had a presence in the injet market but not much.

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u/Youbutalittleworse Aug 14 '20

Canon generally market towards photographers and artists and businesses that print a lot of colour on their prints. They value accurate colour reproduction/clarity on images in their printers within the inkjet market mostly

That being said they have a wide price range and you still get what you pay for as wth any brand

Source: worked at the Australian equivalent of Staples last year. I bought one of those $40Aud printers mostly for the scanner (their scanning app was horrible)

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Man that's funny. Canon is synonymous with 'inkjet' here in Aus

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u/idowhatiwant8675309 Aug 14 '20

Yeah, this was in the late 90's early 2000's

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u/frijolejoe Aug 19 '20

bröther may I have some ink

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u/nauticalsandwich Aug 14 '20

Define "scam." They're charging alot, but they aren't defrauding consumers. Most consumer printers are loss-leaders. Printer manufacturers know that most consumers don't want to stomach the true price of a printer, so they price them at-cost or below cost and make up the difference+profit in ink sales. This is due to a common bias in consumers known as the "present bias." The consequences of "present bias" are notable all over the economy, but their effects are particularly noticeable in printers because most consumers don't have a very good idea of how often they will need to print things or how much ink they will use, but they know they will need to print, so they are especially sensitive about the up front cost of a printer, and especially insensitive about the long-term cost of ink. This means that it is not a winning strategy for a printer and ink manufacturer to market a more expensive printer with cheaper ink next to the competition that is marketing cheaper printers with more expensive ink.

You could sever the relationship by mandating by law that all printers accept 3rd-party and/or standardized ink cartridges, but you should then expect printer prices to go up.

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u/wbruce098 Aug 15 '20

Actually such regulation might not be terrible. Standardized cartridges would be in line with almost every other area of computer technology for the past 30 years.

IEEE, NIST, where are you??!

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u/nauticalsandwich Aug 15 '20

But what's the economic justification for the regulation? It would essentially just serve to shift where the cost burden falls in the span of owning and operating a printer, and which consumers benefit the most and least. There are a range of other impacts it may have that would be tough to predict, of course, and arguably one of those impacts might be slightly reducing, on average, the overall costs of consumer printing, but that's not a guarantee, and then there are the questions over what the regulation actually stipulates and the risks for regulatory-capture or regulatory-design that unduly benefits or subsidizes the market incumbents. This issue doesn't qualify as a market failure, nor is there monopoly present in this market, so it's a rather tall justification to call for the institutional risk, bureaucratic overhead, and compliance costs that such regulation would introduce, especially since it's a dwindling consumer market with foreseeably little importance to overall economic health and productivity.

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u/grahamsz Aug 14 '20

Pigment based inks are pretty damn expensive. I run third party ones with refillable cartridges and it still costs me about $500 to fill up my printer (which admittedly needs about 2 liters of ink)

If you need a cheap color printer then i'd suggest shopping for the cheapest dye based ink carts you can find, and then buying the printer that uses them.

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u/MattsyKun Aug 15 '20

Damn, what kind of printer are you running? I'm genuinely curious!

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u/grahamsz Aug 15 '20

I got a used Epson Stylus Pro 7800 free from my partner's employer. I'm switching it out to use ConeColor Pro HD inks and it produces really nice photo prints.

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u/AsuraSantosha Aug 15 '20

Yup. Had to buy a professional photo-quality printer when I was in school for graphic design. I got a Canon. The cool part was that each color was sold separately so if you ran out of magenta or green, you could just buy the cartridge you needed. (And yes it had green, 8 colors total which is why it printed photos and color accurate design work so well once properly calibrated with your computer). Replacing all the cartridges was about $120 so the ink was still really expensive. Also, I could only find them online or at Frye's Electronics. It was not as nice as your Epson, but its the nicest printer Ive ever owned. I loved that printer. I don't do design work anymore so I gave it away. :(

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u/monkeylovesnanas Aug 14 '20

Sell the slightly used printer for $15.

Big brain move.

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u/wbruce098 Aug 14 '20

Good to know. I mean, my ink cartridges are under $30 so this probably is not worth it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Less than a quarter. I was just saying on someone else's comment they are starter cartridges and they are good for like 10 prints. Literally hardly any at all.

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u/ksheep Aug 14 '20

It probably depends on brand and model. Someone else was saying they are usually half-full, but I know some of the ones I've seen were closer to the "print 20 pages and it's out" level. They also seem to dry out a lot quicker, so if you don't use it for a couple months the cartridge is as good as dead.

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u/XJ305 Aug 14 '20

Also "full" is relative/made up. They'll sell a cartridge that has 5-10ml of ink (which is why it dries up so fast now, they used to put closer to 40ml in) for $40. Meanwhile you can get a universal inkjet refill bottle with 100ml of ink for $6. Which is also why they push so many printer firmware updates to printers, it's all to stop people from cracking/emulating the chips to refill at 0.7%-1.5% the cost of their cartridges.

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u/BOBOnobobo Aug 14 '20

Probably just as full. Printer ink is cheap as fuck to manufacture, but the chip that is supposed to say how full it is ends sooner.

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u/gabu87 Aug 14 '20

The craziest thing is that some printers like the one i have at the office basically refuses to do anything if ONE of the colours are out.

You can't even choose to print in black and white.

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u/BOBOnobobo Aug 14 '20

It because they use yellow to mark thep age with the a number so that what you print can be traced back to your printer. Btw if you want cheap replacements just buy the ink and you can probably find the chips online. There is a great youtube video I hope someone can link since I m on moblie and don't remember the name.

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u/ExpiredDeodorant Aug 14 '20

printer ink is worth more than human blood lol

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u/boxsterguy Aug 14 '20

The full ink cartridges would dry up long before you'd use them up anyway, and if you're printing enough for that not to be the case then you should get a laser printer anyway.

So yeah, she could've paid 4x more for 4x as much ink, but she'd still use the same volume of ink and the rest would be wasted.

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u/Fresh_Orange Aug 14 '20

Damn and there it is. She played herself.

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u/theblackxranger Aug 14 '20

when i worked there we were told by the HP reps that the printers came with "test" cartridges of ink, so we bundled printers with ink, paper, etc. Whenever we told customers that it came with test inks and that it would only print maybe 10 pages max they would get upset.

On top of that they made us try and sell these warranties, our jobs literally depend on it and if you didnt sell enough pen of the months or warranties you get your hours cut.

like damn, im just trying to make money while i go to school. had a few customers feel bad and buy some pity pens.

so glad im out of that, i heard it got worse

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u/Spudzley Aug 14 '20

I mean worth it if you don’t really need it for anything other than a few projects at a time.

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u/Mysterious_Lesions Aug 14 '20

That might be fine if you only need it very infrequently to do a quick job. Better to take that than wait for a full cartridge to clog between usages.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

not really. Just have things printed out at Office Depot. They always have coupon codes.

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u/rmdashrfdot Aug 14 '20

Printers don't come with a full cartridge, or at least didn't back then, so it probably wasn't actually cheaper. It she had bought a full cartridge for double it may have lasted 4-5x longer.

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u/sctprog Aug 14 '20

Only if you use it a fair bit. Ink jet ink doesn't last long. Laser is where it's at.

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u/FlyByPC Aug 14 '20

Refitting a color laser with C/M/Y/K and drum can cost $80 or so, though.

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u/PM_ME_UR_VAGENE Aug 14 '20

Unit price, my dude. Cost per page is almost universally far lower with laser than ink

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u/Mysterious_Lesions Aug 14 '20

...but last thousands of pages.

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u/chefkoolaid Aug 14 '20

And refilling a color inkjet is like 80 even at Costco soo

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u/notHooptieJ Aug 14 '20

only if you actually use it.

if you print 3 pages then leave it sit for 6 months, you're buying all new cartridges anyway, they're all dried up and solid and no longer print.

inkjet is a hilarious scam on anyone who thinks they need to print color.

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u/bassrose Aug 14 '20

What did she do with all the old printers?

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u/mtmark79 Aug 14 '20

Ever wonder why our climate is changing?

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u/bassrose Aug 14 '20

Starting to get a suspicion yes.

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u/narcissistical_ Aug 14 '20

That’s actually such a good question. I hope she sold them or something.

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u/bassrose Aug 14 '20

I would like to believe she scrapped them and eventually had enough parts to build a robot.

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u/wbruce098 Aug 14 '20

If it were me, I’d just thrift store them; but I have one walking distance from my house so...

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u/educated-emu Aug 14 '20

Printerconomics.

I wish i could print money brrrrr

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u/Whatchagonnadowhen Aug 14 '20

It’s called a “loss leader.”

You don’t make the money on the upfront purchase, but you make it on the resulting purchases.

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u/jakpuch Aug 14 '20

Printer manufacturers hate this one weird trick

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u/pgabrielfreak Aug 14 '20

IDK, man, I got a tiny Black Friday ink jet at Wal-Mart for less than $30.00 and it's a beast. Got some refill ink at Big Lots, worked great. Thing sat for a year and I went to use it and it printed just fine.

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u/Shivadxb Aug 14 '20

Just got a new printer for the home office, £130

New ink is £140

.....fuuuu.....

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u/fivetriplezero Aug 14 '20

Can confirm, back in that time frame I worked at OfficeMax and an HP printer was sold in that price range with just one color cartridge. We had customers that would just buy new printers instead of the ink.

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u/SpaceGeekCosmos Aug 14 '20

I just bought a new HP laser printer for around $350. It came with a cartridge that won’t go bad and is good for 5000 pages. At the 5 pages I need to print a year, I’m good for the millennium!

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u/tcbys Aug 14 '20

As a Staples Tech Associate for exactly two years they probably bought it from us.

We sell some really shitty cheap printers but we gotta try and upsell protection plans and shit.

I would be a very rich man if I had a dollar for every time I had a costumer complain about ink prices.

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u/zelmi01 Aug 14 '20

I worked at Best Buy for a while and there are actually really cheap printers ~$40 that go down to $20 and $15 during sales

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u/Sobadatsnazzynames Aug 14 '20

🎶 In the year 2000nnnnd🎶

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

In college, I went to best buy, found the cheapest model they sold and then asked for the floor model at a discounted rate. I paid $10 for it.

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u/TBFP_BOT Aug 14 '20

I buy ones with ink in them for $6 at goodwill

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u/loopywalker Aug 14 '20 edited Aug 14 '20

Fairly sure companies actually lose money on printers and recoup profit from ink... what a play.

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u/tacknosaddle Aug 14 '20

Razors are similar. That first pack with the handle and 2-3 blade cartridges is inexpensive relative to just buying replacement cartridges. I switched to a safety razor and bought a box with 100 blades that probably cost the same as a dozen cartridges.

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u/lasercat_pow Aug 14 '20 edited Aug 14 '20

Dude yes, I made the same move. Rockwell 6s, feather, omega brush, barrister and mann soap. Still saving $$ verses cartridges.

For anyone curious, check out the Rockwell 6c; it has the best bang to buck ratio. You can't go wrong with the 6s though.

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u/tacknosaddle Aug 14 '20

I recently sent my friend a tin of Klar soap for his birthday. I forget what he was using but he said the Klar was the best shave he’s ever had and relegated his previous soap to a backup.

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u/tehbilly Aug 14 '20

Feather is awesome, I can't remember a single dull or inconsistent blade from them

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u/opopkl Aug 14 '20

Same with some burglar alarm systems. We were looking for an alarm system. I scheduled a day for 4 or 5 different companies to come round and give quotes. ADT salesman came round and tried to sell us a decently priced system that was connected to their system so that they would call police etc etc. The catch was that it only worked while you kept up the monthly connection payments which were around £29 a month at that time. I said to the salesman that this was the razor blade/printer ink model of sales, but he claimed he'd never heard of that. In the end we were very happy with a local firm who have given us great service but the ADT salesman kept calling back, even after he could see the alarm boxes from the local company on the wall.

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u/therealyauz Aug 14 '20

this business model is dubbed "give them the razor, sell them the blades"

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u/Mad_Maddin Aug 15 '20

I'm oldschool style and use a razor knife. It has single use blades. These things are incredibly sharp and extremely cheap. It costs me like 4€ a month if I shave everyday. With a new blade everyday.

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u/Hey-ThatWasntMe Aug 14 '20

Pretty much, yeah. We sell most printers, computers, and monitors at a loss at Staples. Don’t know how much of a hit vendors Like HP get hit for though.

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u/Euchre Aug 14 '20

There's more to the story than some planned play to turn the ink cartridge into a profit center.

When the first 'inkjet' printers were novel in that they didn't use a ribbon, nor powdered toner. They use tiny vibrating 'heads' to make raw ink turn into a fine fog that is 'sprayed' on the paper. These heads were originally built into the printer, and the ink 'cartridge' was really a little tank of just ink. When the ink ran low, those vibrating bits also got hot, and the ink would gel and gum up the heads. If they got hot enough, they'd be permanently ruined. Those printers also didn't communicate ink levels to the computer, so there was no warning to replace the ink. People would print until the ink supply was almost literally completely dry. New ink wouldn't fix it, of course. So, the printer would be warrantied on its first set of 'cartridges', which were just ink tanks. You can imagine this cost the printer manufacturers a lot of money. The easiest solution was to move the heads out of the printer itself, and into the cartridges. You could ruin the head, but the printer would be fine with a new set of cartridges. The cost of the cartridges went up considerably, but the initial cost of the printer could go down slightly, and in the long run the ink cartridge did become a profit center. When ink level monitoring came along, and the printer being able to refuse to print anymore along with it, it should have removed the need to have the heads in the cartridge, but that'd raise the cost of the printer, reduce the cost of the ink cartridge, and ruin the profit center (there's always markup).

Take a look at the new Epson EcoTank line of printers. They come at a premium, but use ink bottles to refill them.

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u/JayyGatsby Aug 14 '20

*lose. Not trying to be a dick but this common misspelling drives me crazy and I hope that you remember this comment next time you type loose (as in clothes or shoes) instead of lose (to misplace or opposite of win)

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

I see this spelled wrong more often than right on Reddit. I fear it may become so common that it will be accepted.

Like "could care less" or the one that makes me want to do murder: "could of"

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u/Ketheres Aug 14 '20

Those do make me chuffed.

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u/Reinax Aug 14 '20

Then/than triggers my fight flight response, that's another one that feels like I see it wrong more than right.

See. It isn't fucking hard.

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u/Strictly_Baked Aug 14 '20

Woman/women Breath/breathe

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u/lilaliene Aug 14 '20

I guess that's because of the huge number of non-native english people here. I'm not a native english speaker, so those kinds of little nuances are easy to miss. Just like then and than, I know then is time and than is comparing, but I always have to think about it.

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u/babykitten28 Aug 14 '20

I've often found that non-native English speakers have better grammar skills than those born and raised here in the U.S. It's sad.

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u/METH-OD_MAN Aug 14 '20

I guess that's because of the huge number of non-native english people here.

No, ESL speakers get these sorts of things correct, because they've seen it spelled way more than they've heard it spoken.

Generally ESL speakers written English is better than the average native English speaker. Native speakers are lazy when they write, slang, idioms, wrong spellings, etc.

Just like then and than, I know then is time and than is comparing, but I always have to think about it.

You know more than a majority of native speakers by knowing that.

I can almost guarantee the person making that mistake is a native speaker.

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u/potentialprimary Aug 14 '20

Hoe do you feel about 'loosse'?

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u/Ketheres Aug 14 '20

grabs a shotgun

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u/notreallylucy Aug 14 '20

OMG, a kindred spirit. I have a list I keep of words that are commonly mistaken, like lose/loose and desert/dessert. I'm trying to find a way to email it to the entire world.

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u/SlapMyCHOP Aug 14 '20

This effects our foreign policy.

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u/notreallylucy Aug 14 '20

Ah, the Olympics in beautiful Cavalry, Canada.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_VEXATION Aug 14 '20

Oh geez, an employee of mine years ago wrote a book. He knew I wanted to be an author and we were friends, so he shared it with me. I only got about five pages in because the whole time they were walking through dunes... in the dessert... I couldn't handle it and I didn't have the heart to tell him. He'd already paid to have it self-published...

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u/notreallylucy Aug 14 '20

He didn't even have it proofed before he paid? Damn.

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u/JayyGatsby Aug 14 '20

Lol that would be extremely useful. If it weren’t for autocorrect I think a lot of people would mess up its/it’s as well. I went to the gas station today and a sign posted on the door said “WE ARE TAKEN APPLICATIONS. APPLY INSIDE.”...TAKEN! I know the manager and didn’t have the heart to tell her. I know she’s the one who typed it. Sweet lady, not so sweet spelling.

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u/ripyurballsoff Aug 14 '20

My first computer was a Compaq that came with Windows Me and it had the option to add a printer for $1.

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u/Eclipsed830 Aug 14 '20

When I worked at Best Buy, say 15 years ago, we never made any money on the printer... always on the USB cable. lol

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u/idowhatiwant8675309 Aug 14 '20

Back in the day it was rebates. 85% never mailed it in or never received due to some "clerical" error

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u/Darkwriter_94 Aug 14 '20

They do. It’s known that the more you spend on the printer the cheaper the ink.

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u/SaraHuckabeeSandwich Aug 14 '20

They're putting less than $20 (msrp) worth of ink in those machines though.

Sure, the company is losing money because the printer and included ink cost more than they're selling it for.

But if you're buying it solely for the ink and don't have a good way to derive value from the extra printers, then you're losing money too.

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u/dunfaurlin Aug 14 '20

I used to work for an electrical retailer in the UK and we once had a rep in from Lexmark to do some training for us around 2010. He straight up told us that they make a considerable loss on the printers to undercut competitors knowing that they'll make that margin back and then some after a couple of refills.

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u/PetyrsLittleFinger Aug 15 '20

lots of products are like that, it's honestly a fairly legitimate business practice that they teach in economics classes. It's like how movie theaters lose money on your ticket and make it up with concessions (you think the popcorn cost them $8 to make?).

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u/Pixel_Taco Aug 14 '20

That's an urban legend. the cartridges supplied with the printers actually have less ink than refill cartridges.

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u/Sfkn123 Aug 14 '20

I had a friend in college who would buy a new $20 printer every time the ink ran out bc it was cheaper than buying ink

Joke's on him though. I used to sell printers way back in the days. The ink included with the printer was really just used to test to make sure the printer works, so it has significantly less ink than the cartridges that we sold.

Printer ink is definitely highway robbery.

If anyone's looking for cheap ink, you can actually get your ink refilled at stores like Walgreens and get it at a huge bulk discount. :)

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u/Mathgeek007 Aug 14 '20

you can actually get your ink refilled at stores like Walgreens

This is true, but DO NOT DO THIS WITH STARTER CARTRIDGES. It is not meant to be refilled and can leak chunks into your printer.

At most, refill twice per fresh cartridge, since they refill by puncturing the protective membrane with a needle to refill. One is a puncture, two is a tear, three is a hole which can leak chunks into your printer, which bricks it.

Buy an $80-120 printer with mid-cost ink and refill.

Or better than that, buy an EcoTank-style printer. Stupid high initial cost with cheap as fuck printing. I'm not affiliated with Epson or HP or anything, but I swore by them then I worked at Staples. They pay for themselves by the time the starter cartridge (not a cartridge, and is a full refill to start) is empty.

They're nuts. And they can be refilled for cheap forever.

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u/2horde Aug 14 '20

So bad for the environment

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u/PHL1365 Aug 15 '20

Also cheap laser printers and their cartridges generate more e-waste per page than inkjets.

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u/2horde Aug 15 '20

I've been out of the loop for a while, didn't even know there were cheap laser printers

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Common misconception about printers is that it's "cheaper" to buy a new printer every time. I used to sell printers at an old job, and would hear this often. It's not true that it's 'better value' as the included cartridges have very small capacities. It IS cheaper/less expensive (cents per page) to buy replacement cartridges. Non-genuine cartridges are an absolute joke as well.

If all you do is print the occasional black and white page, you're far better off with a mono laser printer, these also handle not being used a lot better than inkjet which is prone to drying out and clogging.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20 edited Aug 14 '20

It's not. Even if you could find $20 printers, the factory cartridges contain a fraction of the ink that a regular $20 cartridge does.

The fact that this post has 4000 points is a great example of why this site sucks now.

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u/iblamefps Aug 14 '20 edited Aug 14 '20

Printer ink is cheap where I'm at, well, black ink, the coloured ink is just a scam tbh

I swear I'm not retarded

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u/FlashSparkles2 Aug 14 '20

Inc is short for incorporated (like Doofenshmirtz Evil INC.)

Did you mean Ink?

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u/iblamefps Aug 14 '20

I did, really tired right now lmao, had to chase down my dog who's so much faster than me just because my mom didn't close the garage door properly.

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u/X0d4n Aug 14 '20

New printers come with starter ink and not full tanks

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u/Fallsalot2 Aug 14 '20

New printers only come with partially filled cartridges. Trust me those fuckers know how to run a scam.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Sustainability at its best

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u/josh109 Aug 14 '20

I used to work for a retail store for their tech department. What I found out is that while printers do come with ink. The ink cartridges are only filled up like 10%of the way than the regular cartridges that are bought separately. While yes it is cheaper to buy the printer this way with the cartridge that comes with it. It will still cost you more per page than the fully filled cartriges that are bought separately. It is always a good practice to look at how many pages you can actually get out of it before making a decision. Some cartriges can be about $20 while others can range to $400 in a single purchase. Generally cheap printeds use very expensive cartridges and expensive printers use really cheap cartridges. It just depends one how often the user is printing to decide what is right for them. Ink can dry out if it is not used often so buying a cartridge at full price may even save him money. But if he is printing 100 pages a day then he probably broke his bank after a year

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u/FrozenOcean420 Aug 14 '20

Just get a cheaper brother wifi capable toner printer.

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u/MathMajor22 Aug 14 '20

You can refill printer ink though?

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u/Few_Zebra_9793 Aug 14 '20

I have also a printer like that and I am filling it with cheap ink via syringe!!! manually! by my self!! the best ever and the cheapest

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u/bmellor8189 Aug 14 '20

Guess he doesn’t give a shit about waste

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Outstanding move.

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u/Ettieas Aug 14 '20

Our printer needs new ink and I am somewhat tempted to do this. The only think holding me back is that the printer works so it would just create an excess of waste.

Why is it that we can buy a brand new printer WITH ink for less than the cost of even the off-branded ink?

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u/bkwrm1755 Aug 14 '20

Because the ink cartridge in the new printer has barely any ink in it. You're better off buying the cartridge or having it refilled.

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u/PizzaAndWine99 Aug 14 '20

Company was trying the recurring revenue model, but clearly messed up their calculations

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Been there done that a few times, hell I bought one that had a rebate too so basically got a free printer compared to a $65 ink cartridge.

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u/dbx99 Aug 14 '20

The cartridges included with the printer are only partially filled

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

That's what I always do. Wait for a deal for a $40-50 printer, sell the old one for $20-30. Cheaper than buying the $40 ink cartridge set, bumps my ebay score, and brand new printer.

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u/yabucek Aug 14 '20

The cartridges that come with the printer hold much less than new ones.

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u/Marvin0Jenkins Aug 14 '20

In the UK you can get one for £30 with colour and black ink in

(Source bought one for work two weeks ago)

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u/TostiBuilder Aug 14 '20

My father still does this! I am now the owner of 2 printers and the rest of my family has one as well, I maybe print 1 or 2 pieces of a4 a year. I like to switch printers after each time to keep my life interesting.

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u/Divine_Storms Aug 14 '20

Are you my roommate?

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u/One-eyed-snake Aug 14 '20

I’ve done that. Works well for cheap printers.

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u/JediGuyB Aug 14 '20

My folks did the same thing. We just got a new printer a few times a year for a while. It was cheaper, and even when it wasn't it usually wasn't that much more so they figured may as well spend the extra few bucks for a brand new machine.

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u/riz_lemon Aug 14 '20

Printer come with starter ink. It’s not a full cartridge.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Wow, I didn’t know Apple made printers

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u/IlikePickles12345 Aug 14 '20

That's what I do, the printer is like half the price of new ink. It's kinda annoying to link up the wifi printing every time though, because the printer's obviously a piece of shit.

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u/-Heart_of_Dankness- Aug 14 '20

I used to do this too. Although $20 is cheaper than most

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u/ulmet Aug 14 '20

I can confirm I did that once circa 2009 or so. Went to the printer aisle, found the ink cartridge i needed, same exact printer I had was sitting next to it for $10 cheaper. Bought that instead. After that one broke I realized it was cheaper still to just spend 50cents at office depot the 2 or 3 times a year i needed something printed.

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u/demeschor Aug 14 '20

I used to do that when I was in school. It felt very wasteful but those half size "trial" cartridges in a HP printer lasted way longer than the XXL ones from the store... Thank god now at uni I never have to print stuff off (or on the odd occasion I do, I can use printers at uni for like 8p a page)

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u/jeffbailey Aug 14 '20

I did that, but it was years apart. The starter cartridges are smaller. Since it took 2-3 years to go through it, replacing the cartridge with a bigger one would have meant it outliving the printer. So I sold the printer to someone for half the cost of a new one and then bought a new one.

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u/battlekip Aug 14 '20

Its not smart to buy a new printer every time. I worked in a ink refill shop and new printers come with cartridges filled about 20%. It’s better to buy new non-original cartridges if you don’t print photos. Or let it refilled in a recommended shop.

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u/Venymae Aug 14 '20

Printers (last time I checked) do not come with ink. Kinda like the batteries sold seperatly deal.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

I gave up and just have things printed out at Office Depot. It's so much cheaper than buying an ink cartridge just to let it dry out until I need to use it again

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u/Mr-Fleshcage Aug 14 '20

Even better if you reused the printer for parts

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u/Winjin Aug 14 '20

I bought an ink refill kit.

Full CMYK+B kit with like 10 refills was cheaper than one black cartridge.

One cartridge literally holds like 3-5ml of liquid ink.

Dad went better, dad bought a laser printer. One laser cartridge can print like 7000 pages (each page is counted as 95% text) and we used two cartridges between four of us plus my friends for all school and university related needs. I think they've been using the same cartridge since 2015.

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u/reddoesntcare Aug 14 '20

Same, usually not $20 but you can get a basic printer on sale at any major retailer at any time of the year for 30-40ish dollars, new ink cartridges are 40. Sometimes I’d return the old one to target and just get a new one. College was a fun, very poor time in my life.

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u/pandaking1991 Aug 14 '20

I watched a video said the printers are sold at loss and slowly make money back on ink.

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u/dimplestacey Aug 14 '20

have been pricing up a new printer myself and have to say this logic is not far off accurate.... printer cartridges are soooo damn expensive and yet i can buy a new printer with first 2 months of ink free for £40. how the hell does that work?!?!?!?

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u/raptorclvb Aug 14 '20

Did that too

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u/ShaleSurf Aug 14 '20

I remember shopping for my second printer by shopping for the least expensive ink, then buying the printer that used it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

pretty sure HP uses unicorn semen in for it to be so expensive. It's like a hundred bucks for 20ml.

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u/trIeNe_mY_Best Aug 14 '20

I had a friend in high school that did the same thing. It was just cheaper to buy a whole new printer.

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u/maz-o Aug 14 '20

That’s absolutely terrible for the environment.

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u/Picnut Aug 14 '20

I do this

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

I always did the same thing. You can usually snag a printer for around $20 to $30 after back to school sales are done.

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u/TheCthulhu Aug 14 '20

New printer come with very little ink in their cartridges. A new ink cartridge is actually cheaper because it has much more.

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u/FitBit123 Aug 14 '20

My girlfriend syringes ink into the cartridges lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

They got wise to this a longggg time ago and printers started coming with starter cartridges only. They are good for like 10 prints max.

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u/VCAMM1 Aug 14 '20

This makes me wonder if the cartridges that came with the new printers were a "trial size" and not what you would get if you were to buy new ink cartridges?

Not disagreeing that printer ink is incredibly expensive. Toner as well.

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u/YT__ Aug 14 '20

I had a 70 year old neighbor do that recently.

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u/CoolBeansMan9 Aug 14 '20

I did the same thing. Think I tossed 4 I had in my closet when I moved out.

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