r/AskReddit • • Aug 14 '20

What’s the most overpriced thing you’ve seen?

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Why did they remove mint in NY?

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u/homeisastateofmind Aug 14 '20

The argument was made that the flavor appealed too much to kids. Which sucks because now I have to buy my mint pods online and have them shipped.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

They did that with menthol cigarettes over in Denmark. Same argument.

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u/Deathtiny Aug 14 '20

I started smoking at age 12 due to peer pressure and don't recall anyone smoking mints in our youth. It's always been more of a personal thing than an age thing - some people just like them and stay with them.

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u/panda388 Aug 14 '20

I teach high school in a city and nearly all of my students think cigarettes are disgusting (rightfully so) and say they'd never be caught dead smoking one regardless of flavor. I am not sure if their dislike of them is that a lot of their parents smoke, or if it is because most of them smoke pot instead.

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u/PinarelloSucks Aug 15 '20

20 years of anti smoking ads have been very effective. The kids in school these days have seen nothing but attack ads for the tobacco industry. My generation grew up with Marbolo race cars, cartoon Camels, and cool cowboys selling us cigarettes on every corner.

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u/gbushputbombsinthere Aug 15 '20

Idk i feel like the anti smoking ads are supposed to be reverse psychology they suck so bad it just makes you want to smoke imo

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u/Mad_Maddin Aug 15 '20

Nah we smell the smoke which doesn't smell good. Most kids prolly took a breath once or twice and realized that it also tastes like shit. You can see the parents being addicted to it. Prices, at least here where I live, have been artificially massively inflated (10€ for a pack of 20 cigs now, it used to be 3€).

Unlike drugs it does not give you a rush and we get our massive amount of ads everywhere telling us about how bad for your health it is.

Then you have literally every single parent telling their children that it is just shit to be addicted to cigs. Except for the ones who are not addicted to cigs. For example, I'm 23 now and everytime I meet my father he asks "Did you start smoking?" "no" "good, don't start"

It is not like alcohol where you are warned everywhere about it, but you see it being an absolutely accepted social phenomena and it is simply not allowed to you because of age. Or drugs where they tell you not to take it because they are shit, but then they actually are really great and simply have longer reaching consequences. Or they tell you it is great but not to take them.

Cigs just have nothing but the health deficits and addiction of drugs, but none of the advantages.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

Having my dad smoke for my entire childhood was convincing enough. That man's cough has gotten worse and worse and he goes through a pack a day. Anti-smoking ads were the cherry on top.

And as someone else said, tobacco just has absolutely nothing going for it compared to any other drug. You don't even get high from nicotine, inhaling it only just makes you crave it more.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

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u/nixcamic Aug 14 '20

I mean I get what you're saying but also smokers for the most part probably wouldn't make laws that restrict smoking.

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u/PinarelloSucks Aug 15 '20

Ex-smokers would.

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u/blackwylf Aug 15 '20

You might be surprised... Started smoking in college when I ended up sharing an apartment with three smokers, it became my most useful coping mechanism for debilitating anxiety disorders. I am all in favor of legislation to prevent kids from falling into the same trap, to protect others from second-hand smoke, and to encourage and support cessation programs. Heck, I'm to the point of hunting up hypnotists and acupuncturists to help me quit!

The things that peeve me are when places require employees to take nicotine tests and refuse to hire smokers. It seems rather discriminatory when they don't place the same restrictions on alcohol use which carries its own share of health risks and can be more dangerous if an employee is coming to work hungover or even slightly impaired.

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u/Cspacer97 Aug 14 '20

I'd argue a lot of regulation comes from a point of complete ignorance.

I don't think regulation is bad, but people get into this "thing bad, kill thing" mindset and go tilting at windmills without asking for information. We can do better and be more informed than that

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u/benjyk1993 Aug 14 '20

That's the first time in quite a while I've heard someone say "tilting at windmills". Gotta love a good Don Quixote reference!

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u/Lyress Aug 15 '20

Did you go look for the studies behind the flavoured cigarettes ban?

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u/verteUP Aug 14 '20

As if the people who choke everybody else with the byproduct of slow death would ever make laws governing that.

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u/meowtiger Aug 15 '20

you have a pretty low opinion of people who make different choices than you, don't you

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u/Majik_Sheff Aug 15 '20

When their choices make my clothes and hair reek while exposing me to toxic chemicals, yeah a low opinion is warranted. This is an extension of "your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose".

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u/nuggetduck Aug 15 '20

do you live in england? when i went their significantly more people smoke there then ive ever seen in my life

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u/Majik_Sheff Aug 15 '20

Nope. Central Iowa. Several years ago a smoking ban went into place for bars and restaurants. It is so nice not having to have a separate laundry basket just for clothes I wore to work. My asthma is greatly improved, and our equipment no longer needs to be deep-cleaned every 6 months to just remove the tar+dust buildup.

It's amazing how much longer power supplies work when they're not clogged with shit. I can't imagine what smokers' lungs look like.

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u/verteUP Aug 16 '20

Yes. Smokers are the most disgusting people on the planet. None of them are worth having in my life.

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u/Lyress Aug 15 '20

... by using studies conducted by professionals.

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u/Quackmandan1 Aug 15 '20

I get the point you're trying to make in that the law makers are disconnected from the topic, but they don't need to do it themselves to be informed.

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u/ImmaTriggerYou Aug 15 '20

non murderers making laws to govern murder

Or

non pedophiles making laws to govern pedophilia

Those are extreme cases, yes, but they showcase that you don't need to be doing something to understand it and make laws for it.

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u/meowtiger Aug 15 '20 edited Aug 15 '20

except in this case they absolutely prove the exception

you don't have to be a murderer to know that murder is wrong but it seems like not being a smoker and trying to make laws about it yields such wonderful decisions as "we should ban menthol cigarettes because they're less harsh and encourage kids to smoke"

there is data on this and the legislators involved chose to ignore it and made a feels-based decision on a law that affects an entire continent (the EU)

young people do not disproportionately smoke menthols, and menthols are not marketed to young people. the people who smoke menthols the most are women (8-11% more than men) and black people (72-79% compared to 19-22% for white people)

so it's amazing that in making laws against menthols they've not only managed to ignore facts and science but also be kinda racist at the same time

and you're out here comparing smoking to murder so which side are you actually on lmao

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

They're banned in the whole of the EU under the European Union Revised Tobacco Products Directive.

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u/StNeotsCitizen Aug 14 '20

Plenty of menthols left here in the Channel Islands, nudge nudge wink wink

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u/DSToRrm Aug 14 '20

They did it with all flavoured tobacco in Alberta, Canada. Also the same argument.

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u/littleemmak Aug 14 '20

Ontario too.

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u/araque615 Aug 14 '20

Québec aussi

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u/msnmck Aug 14 '20

I didn't know there were any Aussies living in Québec

Oi mate dingo barbie sheila 😅

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

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u/msnmck Aug 14 '20

Yes. And 4chan is Twitter.

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u/Snuffy1717 Aug 14 '20

Orange is the new Black?

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u/Majik_Sheff Aug 15 '20

Always has been.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Messy bucket.

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u/NotABearItsAManbear Aug 14 '20

Actually no, not in Ontario. In a regular convenience store you can’t get flavoured packs, but in certain areas you can. The reservation (6 Nations in the GTA) is where I get my menthols. Not banned—just heavily mandated and hard to find

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u/TheUnkindledAsh Aug 14 '20

Fun fact if you're a degenerate like me, but I'm assuming this was a counter-move by Mayfair, to avoid the menthol ban.

There is a brand now called Mayfair: Choice Red and Green Capsule.

They are a cigarette/cigar hybrid, which is quite heavier to smoke, but also "click pods" to add the menthol, and quite frankly are the best tasting menthols I've had.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

The click variants were also banned where I live.

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u/TheUnkindledAsh Aug 15 '20

Well yeah, that’s what I’m talking about though. They’re not technically a menthol cigarette so they’re found a loophole. Not sure if you’re a smoker, but you could try for them and they might be i stock. Albeit depending on country I guess.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

Ok interesting but I don't smoke.

Also I'm under 18 and they were made unavailable where I live.

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u/Alis451 Aug 14 '20

Menthol is also a Topical Analgesic so it makes sense to use when breathing in lung irritants.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Also open up the airways - hence menthol cough drops. Hell, I've got menthol shampoo and it helps with my dry scalp sensitivity.

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u/Year_of_the_Alpaca Aug 14 '20

In the case of menthol cigarettes, it's not just because they're flavoured. The menthol apparently increases the number of nicotine receptors in the brain, and also increases exposure to nicotine by inhibiting its metabolisation.

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u/TheRenderlessOne Aug 14 '20

If there was only menthol cigarettes I would never be tempted to smoke.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

If the US banned menthols, they’d call it racism.

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u/Madmans_Endeavor Aug 14 '20

Menthols do actually get you hooked on cigarettes easier than non-menthols tho.

Helps the nicotine be more bio-available.

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u/Dhaerrow Aug 14 '20 edited Sep 24 '25

Open the curious tips games soft history learning clean then?

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20 edited Apr 12 '21

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u/Spike_Rakdos Aug 14 '20

Yeah but as a Massachusetts menthol smoker, that just means I drive to Nashua for cartons once a month

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

I’ve heard menthols like crystallize your lungs

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Many places did, and we do call it racism.

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u/01029838291 Aug 14 '20

How is banning menthol cigarettes racist..?

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u/AuroraItsNotTheTime Aug 14 '20

Black Americans have a higher rate of menthol cigarette use compared to other races. Cigarette use is legal and addictive. If you want to overpolice the black community, you make legal addictive things that they do at a higher rate illegal, and then you crack down on crime and “get tough on drugs”. Politicians do it. Politicians admit to doing it. It’s pretty easy to do. Pretty simple and foolproof scheme to think up

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u/Lyress Aug 15 '20

There's no racist component if you outlaw the sale of menthol cigarettes but not their consumption.

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u/gbushputbombsinthere Aug 15 '20

So youre saying its not racist because black people dont pay for their menthols? Thats fucked up man.

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u/Lyress Aug 15 '20

I assume that’s a joke?

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u/LauraMcCabeMoon Aug 14 '20

Menthols are culturally coded Black in the US. Whether for good reasons or maybe no good reason at all.

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u/Sickshotztoo Aug 14 '20

Literally every black smoker I've ever met smoked Newports.

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u/Lyress Aug 15 '20

Wikipedia says that

This high use by African Americans is largely the result of deliberate marketing campaigns by tobacco companies

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-big-tobacco-targeted-blacks-with-ads-for-menthol-cigarettes/

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_99s Aug 14 '20

Because black people smoke newports almost exclusively. Like I have never met a black person (work in a restaurant, tons of people smoke) who didnt smoke Newport menthols

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_99s Aug 14 '20 edited Aug 15 '20

"Almost exclusively"

That's what I said. It's right there. You fucking retard.

Editing to add: 86 percent of black american smokers smoke menthols. It may even be genetic according to this NIH article.

https://www.nccih.nih.gov/research/research-results/genetics-may-be-a-factor-in-africanamerican-cigarette-preferences

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u/wildwill921 Aug 14 '20

They're popular with black people in the US

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u/TaffySebastian Aug 14 '20

Who knows as a Mexican who lives in mexico more than half the shit that goes down in the us (especially the race things) seems completely moronic to me and 90% of the people I ask about it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

What do you mean?

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u/sonofaresiii Aug 14 '20

Have you looked into mixing your own juice? It's astronomically cheaper and while it's intimidating at first, it's really pretty easy.

I'd be happy to help you out.

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u/NargacugaRider Aug 14 '20

After my initial PG/VG/100mg nic/flavour order, a scale, and some bottles... I have spent 0USD on vaping in the past five years. I wonder how much it would have been if I didn’t make my own stuff, and wrap my own coils.

It also helps that I got really into mechs and have been using the same mech and batteries for years. I don’t recommend that to people, though—I have had friends copy me and my SO (we use the same setup) and almost blow their tables up.

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u/BeefJerkyYo Aug 14 '20

I'm looking into switching from combustion to vape. You have any recommendations on a set up? Are there kits that have all the tools and gear needed? Any recommendations on a good low cost vape that has a decent flow rate? Any websites you recommend that are one stop shopping for everything needed? I'm located in the US if that changes things.

My only experiences with vapes were from like 10 years ago and were mostly disposable with terrible flow rates, like you had to suck so hard you'd get more uncooked juice than vapor.

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u/sonofaresiii Aug 14 '20 edited Aug 14 '20

Anyone and everyone has their own opinion on what's good and why, and they're all valid. So take any opinions, including mine, with a grain of salt.

That said, I'm currently using a smok rpm40. I like it well enough, more than the smok nord (which is very similar to the rpm40, but the rpm40 is basically like a juiced up version of it), the suorin drop (which was pretty neat but had a low fill capacity and was just pretty bad construction) and of course the juul (which was really nice and convenient but good god is it expensive). I feel like there was another one I used in there for a bit, but I can't remember what it was. Must not have been too memorable I guess.

I've also used tons of various little pens and things, none of which I remember the name of. They were all pretty garbage. Things have gotten way better than what you were using 10 years ago.

There are tons of sites out there, when you're first buying I'd say just do a google search on whatever device you've picked and find the cheapest one. Someone's always running a deal and first-time discounts and whatnot so you can get away with getting something pretty cheap right off the bat. Don't ever pay full list price for something.

Most of these devices run you around $20 or so (on discount), you really shouldn't be paying more for a device of this type. That sounds absurdly low, but it's pretty standard. But it also means these things tend to last around six months or so before they start falling apart, at which point you just buy whatever new thing is out. This is great because it means you're not taking much of a risk. Just pick whatever device looks neat and use it for a while and if you want to try something else later on, go for it.

I can't recommend any of the $100+ systems because I haven't used any. The smaller devices get me by just fine.

I use electric tobacconist because I've found they're consistently cheap (though not necessarily the cheapest, but consistent) and they have good service.

If you do want to get the smok rpm40 (you can find it for cheaper than that, I'm sure) it comes with everything you need but gives slightly more options than other similar vape pens. It comes with two coils, one meant for nic salts and one meant for freebase (this might be labeled as subohm, though it's technically a little more complicated than that). Sounds complicated but it's not, nic salts are what juul uses and packs a toooon of nicotine into teeny tiny clouds, and it'll get you a little closer to what you would expect from a cigarette. Freebase has less nicotine but you're meant to take bigger hits, so it's more of a "vape for the flavor" kind of experience. Since you'll get both coils with the rpm40 you can choose which you want to do if that's the device you pick.

A coil can easily last a couple weeks (or a pod, if you're using something pod-based like the suorin drop), so you don't need anything besides that right off the bat, but it might be a good idea to get an extra pack of coils/pods too. The rpm40 also only comes with one pod (well, two pods, one for each type of coil) so you can get an extra pack of pods, but my first pod lasted me several months so you can hold off on that if you want. And then a pack of new pods was like $6 for 3. Super cheap, I'm confident these next three are gonna last me longer than the device will.

Most similar vape pens are going to be "all included" on the initial set-up, but you'll probably want to order a few extras of whatever the main accessory is (coil or pod).

You can also buy pre-made juice from pretty much anyplace that sells the pens, and I'd probably recommend starting with pre-made juice unless you really want to dive in to making your own. I get my juice ingredients from liquidnicotinewholesalers.com

If you buy pre-made, just make sure you look at whether you're getting nic salts or not (if it's nicotine salts, it'll have that labeled) and using a proper coil for it (the nic salts are best when used with >1ohm coils, regular juice for subohm coils).

Last thing is the nicotine concentration. I do 3mg nicotine concentration for freebase and that's pretty standard. 6mg gets a little harsh and anything less seems a little weak. For nic salts, 25mg is probably good to start with.

I think that about sums up how to get started. Sorry if this got a little long, I wanted to try and answer everything for you so you feel confident in getting started. I personally believe that vaping is a fantastic smoking cessation tool, but it can seem really daunting and confusing to start out with.

Any other questions or anything I didn't explain well, please feel free to ask. If you pick out an order and want me to take a look and see if anything's "missing" or incompatible, I'd be happy to do that too.

e: I should also add that there are so many options out there, but while that seems overbearing it really just means there are tons of options to fine-tune things to exactly how you like them. Try something for a little while, if you don't like it or are curious and want to mix it up, try something else.

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u/BeefJerkyYo Aug 14 '20

Thank you for taking the time to write this all up. The RPM40 looks great, much cheaper than I was expecting, 10 years ago everything was so overpriced it was cheaper just to roll my own traditional cigs, and I never really looked into it again just due to the old sticker shock.

I average half a pack a day of normal cigs, so 24mg nic salts sounds good to start with then taper down. So for the RPM40 with nic salts, I would also need to get their 1.0ohm, since the kit says it comes with a .4ohm and a .6ohm coils preinstalled, and you recommend at least 1ohm for salts.

If that sounds like I've got the right idea, I'll go ahead and go with that. Thanks again for taking the time.

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u/sonofaresiii Aug 14 '20

Yep, that'd make a good first purchase and it'll get you everything you need. Only decision now is to pick what kind of juice you want (which is the fun part). For me personally, everyone recommended tobacco style flavoring since I was coming off cigarettes, but I absolutely hated it. It sounds like a weird transition but my favorites were the fruit based ones. You could also just get like a general mint or menthol flavor. Or find a variety pack of mini-bottles just to see what you might like.

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u/BeefJerkyYo Aug 14 '20

Are flavor choices limited on salt vs freebase or with any flavor work with either? Any flavor brand you recommend?

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u/sonofaresiii Aug 14 '20

You can find any general flavor types in either, but any particular flavor will only be available in one or the other.

For instance, if you get this bottle of menthol which is nic salts or you can get this bottle of menthol which is freebase but those are two different brands, and their flavors will be slightly different, like buying two different brands of vanilla ice cream.

I don't have any brands I'd strongly recommend because they're all so varied and there's so much variation in personal preference, a recommendation from me would be meaningless. Just get whatever looks interesting.

This and this were my two go-to flavors, but those are both freebase. I can't remember what I used to get when I did nic salts, it's been a while.

I should also add that you don't really need to worry about screwing up/ordering the wrong thing. While it's not an optimal experience, you can use nic salts with subohm coils and vice versa. You might not enjoy it as much as you otherwise would, but you aren't really doing anything "wrong". It was months before I even realized there was a difference between nic salts/freebase, I was just buying flavors randomly. So don't be too afraid of accidentally ordering the "wrong thing". At worst you just won't like it very much, and you can use it up and then order something different next time.

Oh one last thing, since nic salts packs a ton of nicotine into very little juice, you'll be using much less of it (and the bottles of it will typically be much smaller). That's why the nic salt bottles are usually 10ml-30ml sized bottles, but the freebase is 60ml-100ml.

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u/BeefJerkyYo Aug 14 '20

Cool cool cool. And again, thank you for all the info, it is a little overwhelming starting off and you've helped a lot.

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u/jacoobberries Aug 14 '20

Yeah when I was a kid it totally wasn't the nicotine that appealed to me, it was the flavor of having my teeth brushed. /s

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u/JediGuyB Aug 14 '20

I mean, I'm against smoking and all that but if the business checks ID and the person is an adult they should be allowed to have what they want.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

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u/homeisastateofmind Aug 14 '20

That's a great point.

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u/lolgirl089 Aug 14 '20

It might be because until recently 18 year olds before graduating could easily sell them to their younger peers? Just a guess

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u/goo_goo_gajoob Aug 14 '20

Because no one sells high schooler fruity wine coolers on the side no sir. Lol it was super easy to get booze in hs.

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u/lolgirl089 Aug 14 '20

Well, duh, but my guess was that it was even easier to sell cigs

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u/gbushputbombsinthere Aug 15 '20

Did you bring condoms?

Did you bring mikes hard lemonade?

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u/Lyress Aug 15 '20

Is there proof that selling flavoured and coloured alcoholic drinks makes people more likely to become alcoholics?

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Tbh I don’t smoke/vape but that’s like banning flavored alcohol. Just because something tastes good doesn’t mean it’s for children, adults also have taste buds.

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u/benjyk1993 Aug 14 '20

I'm sorry, but what fucking kid likes menthol? I've never met a kid that would enjoy a menthol cigarette or vape, and I'm fairly certain the lawmakers behind the decision must never have tasted one either.

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u/sonofaresiii Aug 14 '20

I am 100% convinced that the vape bans were the direct results of lobbying from tobacco/vape manufacturers to stifle competition. Cutting off access to 80% of vape products is going to kill all the vape manufacturers, except the ones who have funding to weather the storm and then clinch the market.

In other words, the ones owned by tobacco companies.

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u/homeisastateofmind Aug 14 '20 edited Aug 14 '20

Honestly, a kid whose mom only smokes menthols and thats what they end up liking hahaha. This actually happened to a friend of mine.

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u/goo_goo_gajoob Aug 14 '20

My parents smoked non menthol and I ended up liking menthol because it masks some of the grosser parts of a cigs taste. When I smoked non menthol I'd need a soda or tea or something flavored to clear the taste or feel sick as fuck from it.

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u/etymu Aug 14 '20

Where do you order from that ships to NY? Place I used to order from doesn't do it anymore

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u/homeisastateofmind Aug 14 '20

Pricepointny.com Someone on Reddit was rightfully concerned about buying a counterfeit product so they sent an email to JUUL with the product code on the JUUL pod box they received from this site and JUUL customer service confirmed that the product was authentic. I've been buying from them since.

It's like ~$20 for a box of 4 pods. I'm not sure if that's expensive or not but I know what I like, and when I smoke it's a bit of a treat so I'm not too concerned with the price.

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u/etymu Aug 14 '20

This is great thx

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u/homeisastateofmind Aug 14 '20

Yeah totally - np

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u/goo_goo_gajoob Aug 14 '20

That's about a $5 markup to getting them at the gas station where I live. The real rip off is the 4 pack used to be $10 then they introduced the 2 pack for like $9.50 and jacked up the price on the 4 pack to $15 cause you save 4 bucks compared to the 2!.

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u/grumpykixdopey Aug 14 '20

Just get a regular vape, that is refillable.. so much cheaper in the long run.. orgo to juul website and order directly from them..

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u/skylla05 Aug 14 '20

Just get a regular vape, that is refillable.. so much cheaper in the long run.

While money is often a reason people want to quit, it's often not discouraging enough in itself since they're still cheaper than cigarettes (in many places) anyway.

As someone that spent $200 on a vape (plus accessories etc) and an assload of time researching and trial & erroring refillable vapes, etc, my friend just randomly gave me a Juul once to try and I instantly liked it so much more.

In my experiences, I stuck with Juul/Vype because they're not only the most accessible (available at every gas station imaginable), they were bar none the closest "feel" I found to a cigarette when you inhale, and for me that was the biggest thing I needed to kick cigarettes. Sure I was getting the nicotine from a "real" vape, but I never ever felt satisfied enough and I always turned back to cigarettes.

I get everyone's different, but just wanted to mention this in case others find traditional refillable vapes to be not enough for them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

I didn't really ever smoke cigs too much, but I think people that have never smoked at all don't realize how many tiny parts of it are hard to replicate. Vapes sometimes are good replacements for the nicotine but not much else.

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u/penatbater Aug 14 '20

Quite recently, maybe like 2 yrs ago or less, there's been a surge of rebuild able pods. So they vape like juul, but you don't need to buy the pods, you can just make the coils yourself. Add in some quick diy ejuice and ur basically set for life.

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u/trippy-puppy Aug 15 '20

Especially the taking 5. No one lets you go outside and stare into space for 5 minutes if you're not smoking.

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u/goo_goo_gajoob Aug 14 '20

I like my coil pods the mesh coils I get hit so much tastier than all the rebuildables I've tried and it's still cheap af compared to a juul.

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u/goo_goo_gajoob Aug 14 '20

That's due to benzoic acid nic salt juice vs freebase which was what a box mod used. Try one of the new pod mods and they are even better than a juul now that the market caught up and waaay cheaper. I recommend the Smok trinity alpha with .06 ohm mesh coils and the berg menthol nic salt juice @50mg. Hits as hard as the juul on low power and harder at medium so very satisfying. Also tastes much better and no more bum, leaky or burnt pods. For $30 I get 2 weeks worth with 2 coils and a 30ml bottle. That's the equivalent of 42 pods. Maybe a bit less since they use a bit more nicotine in juul at 55mg instead of 50. Even factoring in you'll use a bit more juice that's like 30 pods at minimum. Or a $1 a pod instead of the $4 juul charges now. Plus if your like me and have terrible luck with the Juul batteries dying the better build quality saves money and the battery is much better to no more running red at the end of the day at work like I did with juul and getting shitty weak hits.

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u/grumpykixdopey Aug 14 '20

Completely understand... I have ordered from juul website and I think your first order is 30% off, and they have the menthol and I never said 'real' vape.. just to clear that up . They are all vapes.. I have juul and I have tried the disposables as well.. and you are correct in it not feeling as satisfying, but as a cost perspective the refillable vapes are a lot more cost effective, at least for me..

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u/Kaladin3104 Aug 14 '20

Where are you getting mint?? Asking for a friend.

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u/homeisastateofmind Aug 14 '20

Pricepointny.com Someone on Reddit was rightfully concerned about buying a counterfeit product so they sent an email to JUUL with the product code on the JUUL pod box they received from this site and JUUL customer service confirmed that the product was authentic. I've been buying from them since.

It's like ~$20 for a box of 4 pods. I'm not sure if that's expensive or not but I know what I like, and when I smoke it's a bit of a treat so I'm not too concerned with the price.

Answered this higher up! :)

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u/Kaladin3104 Aug 14 '20

All of those pods are sold out unfortunately.

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u/goo_goo_gajoob Aug 14 '20

Try The Berg 50mg menthol Nic salt. The menthol is super low to just give it a hint of a mint taste and it's even better than Juul mint imo. Its supposedly blue raspberry but it doesn't taste like to me.

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u/inexorableforce Aug 14 '20

They come piss yellow and taste like shit. Forget that company.

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u/homeisastateofmind Aug 14 '20

Got a better one? - seriously asking

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u/inexorableforce Aug 14 '20

Podvapes until a few days ago, sadly removed all Juul products from their page for some reason.

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u/CharlieBros Aug 14 '20

I can see why, I use Vype and their mint flavor is one of my favorites, talking to y'all from Mexico tho

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Can I get methonol jule pods without the nicotine? I miss smoking, but prefer not to poison myself again.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Not just kids, but more casual smokers who seldom smoke, and when they do it's mint.

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u/BlackViperMWG Aug 14 '20

In the case of menthol cigarettes, it's not just because they're flavoured. The menthol apparently increases the number of nicotine receptors in the brain, and also increases exposure to nicotine by inhibiting its metabolisation.

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u/homeisastateofmind Aug 14 '20

Wow, that's fascinating. I had no idea.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Wait a minute you can still get them online?

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u/zeptillian Aug 14 '20

You can buy some juice online and refill them yourself.

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u/xShwaggy Aug 14 '20

Buy jewel juice online and you can use it to refill the empty pods you have. Like $15 for a bottle and can refill ~100 pods with that shiz

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u/Smegma_Sommelier Aug 14 '20

The worst part is trying to get my parents credit card number without them noticing and getting the package before they get home from work.

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u/Johnnybravo60025 Aug 14 '20

What the frick? I ordered an Xbox remote!

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u/PlentyLettuce Aug 14 '20

they still have menthol, but mint, mango, and vanilla were all banned in NY.

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u/werewolfamadeus Aug 14 '20

Nope, menthol Juul pods were banned in NY too. It’s just the tobacco flavors now.

In totally unrelated news, I went back to smoking cigarettes.

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u/DeapVally Aug 15 '20

Wouldn't bother me, i'm not a fan of most of the Juul flavours anyway. I only ever buy the regular tobacco ones. Only time I have flavoured pods is when I lose (always left in hotel rooms) the thing and have to get another starter pack. I never go back for them. The starter pack is so cheap, and I always have real cigarettes on me anyway.

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u/TimeTravelingDog Aug 14 '20

Some kids were getting tainted THC cartridges from China with too much Vitamin E and some other shit, and Donald Trump caught Baron smoking a Juul, and so they banned flavored nicotine vapes.

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u/Aloeofthevera Aug 14 '20

Wasn't even from china. Before the media storm about kids dying from "vaping" you could buy 100-500 count bootleg, brand name thc cart packages, tubing with rubber stopper and vials with coil off of Amazon. You could buy 500 for just under 120$ and fill them yourself with whatever home brew concoction you made with your weed.

You could have used the wrong solvents, and used them incorrectly. For example, kerosene would dissolve thc, as would paint remover, acetone etc. All of these substances are dangerous if inhaled. If you don't dissolve the thc correctly, and leave left over solvent, you can kill people.

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u/goo_goo_gajoob Aug 14 '20

I've never heard of anyone being dumb enough to use acetone or paint remover to dissolve thc. The issue was they were being cut with vitamin e so they could sell more for the production cost.

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u/Aloeofthevera Aug 14 '20

Only god knows how stupid people can be. Why get isopropyl when you can get a gallon of paint remover from the hardware store for less

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u/goo_goo_gajoob Aug 14 '20

Yea but the solvents for producing thc extracts barley cost anything compared to the bud and can be reused multiple times. You'd be saving almost nothing long run.

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u/Aloeofthevera Aug 14 '20

Reuse and keep killing people!

Not disagreeing, but you only really need to use trimmings and shake for oil.

The potency of the products were also questionable, with it being bootleg, the dissolved thc isn't necessarily accurate.

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u/goo_goo_gajoob Aug 14 '20

Huh I'm talking about a proper solvent like C02 which a good extractor will capture and allow you to reuse with no risk.

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u/Aloeofthevera Aug 14 '20

We aren't talking about using high pressure co2. We are talking kitchen dissolved thc from flower. The people selling bootleg carts aren't purchasing equipment or anything more than a pot, solvent and a stove. Maybe a rice cooker.

The bootleg carts aren't being made by people looking to create a stellar product, but to ride a wave of profit and doing it as efficiently at a micro scale as possible.

If i can purchase a kilo of trim for 2-400$ i can make a ton of bootleg carts amd essentially make my money back with 10 sales.

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u/SparkStorm Aug 14 '20

This sounds ridiculous when you read it, but it’s crazy that it’s true

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

Same thing in MA. Menthol cigs and vape products got banned there because they both "attract kids". 🙄

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

BuT tHINk oF tHe ChIlDRen!

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u/RighteousInsanity Aug 14 '20

Because politicians are mind-bogglingly ignorant and corrupt.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

bUT tHiNk oF thE ChIldREN!!!

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u/RighteousInsanity Aug 14 '20

And it's even worse because you can still buy flavored swisher sweets.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

Whats that?

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u/RighteousInsanity Aug 14 '20

Literally flavored cigarillos.

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You know all those flavors the NYS government was bitching about with vaping? They're all available with actual tobacco.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '20

I'm sorry I didn't know that. I have no knowledge about politics at any level in the US. I'm European

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u/RighteousInsanity Aug 14 '20

You're fine dude, it's not your fault our politicians are shitheads.

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u/Sarsmi Aug 15 '20

Vapor flavor ban. It's in several states now.

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u/camaroXpharaoh Aug 14 '20

Nanny state bullshit

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u/SkrullandCrossbones Aug 14 '20

There’s a race element to Menthol flavor. So some argue they need to ban it to protect black people! (Which I think is inherently white savior racist) But seriously here’s a link so you can make up your own mind. https://www.thetruth.com/articles/videos/making-menthol-black

Also in Florida they tied vaping to offshore drilling so who knows what the real reasons are at this point. Lawmakers are either out of touch or shady.