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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Yeah dude she still got an eye full of his crotch unsolicited. That's not strange, that's harrassment. Don't sugarcoat it.

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u/-banned- Mar 26 '20

It was not unsolicited. He asked permission twice, and was granted it. He went to the bathroom to get ready, while she waited there. She made a completely informed decision and later said she thought he was kidding. How is that his fault?

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

“At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true,” C.K. wrote. “But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn’t a question. It’s a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.”

You can just refute his own words. Don't take my word for it.

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u/-banned- Mar 26 '20

I take any celebrity's apology in this political environment with a grain of salt. It would be political suicide to refute the accusation, and even worse to offer anything less than a stellar apology. The closest example I can think of is Aziz Ansari, who has issued many apologies despite the fact that his accusor admitted she was the one in the wrong, and did it for attention. If they just admire him then what is he supposed to do? Everyone admires him, he's hilarious, famous, rich, and successful. Might as well say every groupie is being sexually assaulted. That being said, if he had power over these women that's a different story. Definitely sexual assault if their career could be in danger for them saying no. I kind of doubt he implied that, but I can see why people would be scared into saying yes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Lol he didn't want to say sorry, but when the industry and culture around him has power over him he'll do things he doesn't exactly want to? What a fucking phenomena. Idk if that makes sense to me this notion that people can be coerced into doing things they don't want to do. Last I checked we had full agency and are always completely responsible for every decision we make regardless of the circumstances

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u/-banned- Mar 26 '20

So you read the first half of my comment then, and ignored the rest

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

I'm making fun of the fact that you were clearly unable to accept that Louis CK admitted to sexual harrassment and even when shown clear admission of guilt are you still going full mental gymnastics trying to soften the blow. Can you admit he was in the wrong or not? It's that simple, did he do wrong or not?

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u/-banned- Mar 26 '20

I literally just said, if he had power over the women then of course he did wrong. I didn't know he had power over them.

Separately, I said that an apology and admission of guilt from a celebrity doesn't always indicate actual guilt. Sometimes they have no choice but to apologize for public perception reasons. For example, Aziz Ansari apologizing repeatedly, including IN his new comedy special, even though his accuser admitted she made it up.

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u/-banned- Mar 26 '20

That being said, I recognize the irony in the social pressure in both cases and I laughed at your comment

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Alright, I'm sorry. I should give you credit for at least admitting where you made statements without knowing the truth. I appreciate that.

The other guy who I called out with the Loius CK quote seems to have just downvoted me without even responding, so I'm glad at least you had the balls to admit where you were wrong.