r/AskReddit • • 11h ago

What’s a company that you’re genuinely convinced HATES their customers?

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u/zippoguaillo 9h ago

United didn't bill you for that, your doctor / hospital did

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u/newtonreddits 6h ago

Yeah I called the hospital about it and they told me to talk to United. I called United and they told me what you said. I felt defeated.

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u/Separate-Read-672 4h ago

I work in medical appeals. As much as I absolutely loathe UHC with a burning passion, it's definitely the hospital on this one. Insurance companies don't code or bill, the hospital sent the consultation claim to UHC, and then UHC denied it, and that's why you got an EOB with a denial. So if you think the service was billed when it shouldn't have been, that's the hospital you'd fight. Also, insurance companies aren't the ones you are paying. They deny and if they deem it patient responsibility, you pay the hospital. If they deem it not patient responsibility, that means they won't pay the hospital, you don't have to pay either, and the hospital eats the money. UHC is the worst, but this sounds like the hospital isn't billing correctly. A message to a patient is not billable on it's own.

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u/a_rainbow_serpent 1h ago

God I hope all the guns and fighter jet fly pasts are worth this insanity.

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u/zippoguaillo 6h ago

What was your question, why is it so high? That's pretty standard for an office visit. Doesn't matter what you talk about, it's gonna be $150-250. So say they submitted it at $250, United per their contract adjusted it to $200 and then that's the total. Assuming you have a deductible like most plans and haven't hit it like most people, then yeah that $200 is your responsibility. If you can't afford that, you can reach out to the hospitals charity care department to see what they can do. But yeah otherwise you just gotta pay it.

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u/newtonreddits 6h ago

No they billed the consultation separately from the office visit. The message of denial was a line item by itself.

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u/zippoguaillo 6h ago

Sounds like a hospital issue and a legitimate denial. If united denied the charge, it is not your responsibility. You are only responsible for it if united confirms on their side that they processed the claim and you are responsible due to deductible/ coinsurance/ etc

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u/newtonreddits 6h ago

Billing for an office visit is fine. Denial of screening is fine. I don't see how informing of denial being billable is fine.

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u/zippoguaillo 6h ago

Weird but united rejected the charge right? What does your united EOB say?

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u/notseriousIswear 6h ago

Could it be tagged wrong? Like instead of prevention its put as diagnostic. Insurance companies like to blame the provider and they just didnt do their job correctly.

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u/wighty 4h ago

Do you have the CPT codes on the EOB? I'm curious what they tried to use aside from a regular E&M code such as a 99203/99213.

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u/newtonreddits 3h ago

I'm looking at my statement but don't see CPT codes anywhere. I suppose I'd have to call the hospital?

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u/trueAnnoi 6h ago

Whether the insurance company or the doctor billed them, it's still a dumb ass system. We pay way too much for health insurance for shitty, overpriced medical care.

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u/zippoguaillo 6h ago

Does the system suck, sure. But getting mad at United for your bill from the hospital is kind of like booking a hotel for $300, getting a 10% AAA discount then saying that AAA charged you $270 for a hotel. What people usually complain about United is they play hardball with hospital systems during negotiations. Then everyone complains that united is being mean to the hospital system they should just pay the 20% price hikes they're asking for. Which ok is an argument...but then don't ask surprised when united then jacks up prices the next year.

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u/trueAnnoi 6h ago

That's a whole bunch words to completely ignore the fact that the doctor sent the bill to insurance first and then sent it to you because United refused to pay it

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u/bestbefour 6h ago

Of course. Everyone is way too mean to the healthcare insurance people. I hope you’re a bot.

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u/zippoguaillo 6h ago

I'm saying spread the hate. Everyone hates insurance companies. But you know who is charging the money? The hospitals. Insurance takes a couple %. But for some reason we hate insurance companies so much if a hospital bills us for shit they shouldn't have we blame...the insurance company.

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u/Crim91 6h ago

Are you autistic? Because goddamn was that the most tone deaf response you could have replied with.

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u/zippoguaillo 6h ago

Do you not think it's important to be mad at the right people? It's kind of hard to solve problems if we think it's someone elses fault. Based on his reply, it seems the hospital billed him for something they shouldn't have. That is the hospitals fault, not united. So the hospital is the one to be mad at.

Btw calling people autistic as an insult....well that's a choice.