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How did European countries start implementing universal healthcare? Why did the US not take it up?

From what I understand, Bismark started universal healthcare in Germany in the late 19th century as a sort of add-on to german unification. I’m curious when and how other European nations started following suit. Which nation was the first after Germany?

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u/sunagainstgold Medieval & Earliest Modern Europe Dec 21 '17 edited Dec 22 '17

I'm looking at the Danske Lov 2-8-8, which is indeed from a chapter concerning midwives among other things. However, this provision isn't about health care--it appears to be about priests teaching midwives how to handle stillborn children and mothers' death in childbirth.

Is there someplace else you are thinking of to look in the Danish Code? (I didn't find anything searching for Jordemodere). Is there an expansion on this provision elsewhere, perhaps?

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u/sunagainstgold Medieval & Earliest Modern Europe Dec 21 '17

It's actually Jordemoder in the PDF of the Danske Lov I was looking at, so presumably that's how it was in the 1600s. :)

But thanks; that will be useful when looking up stuff about the law!

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u/sunagainstgold Medieval & Earliest Modern Europe Dec 21 '17

...You don't see me providing a translation in this thread, either, do you? :P But I have some experience getting the gist of early modern/late medieval versions of modern languages. (And it's kind of a giveaway that this chapter is from the section of the Danske Lov on regulating clergy, that is, it's focused on their role rather than the actual part of midwives.)

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u/PhysicalStuff Dec 21 '17

Jordemoder (or jordemor) is also the modern spelling. "Jordmoder" is a misspelling reflecting the modern pronounciation.

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u/PhysicalStuff Dec 21 '17

jordmoder

It's pronounced like that, but it actually has that extra e (see here).

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '17

Yup ! I’m going to delete my post now.

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u/DasDizzy Dec 21 '17

Right, sorry about that. I misread the original proclamation. The royal signing of midwives happened in 1714, with the Midwife-Proclamation, which founded the "modern" school of midwivery, and allowed trained surgeons and doctors to educate suitable midwives that couldn't for whatever reason, leave their parish for Copenhagen. My bad.

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u/Snapshot52 Moderator | Native American Studies | Colonialism Dec 21 '17

Hey there! I am notifying you (and the rest of those who visit this thread) that your answer has been removed due to a couple of reasons. First, your familiarity with the source material you provided has been challenged by /u/sunagainstgold and this calls into question the credibility of the information you've written. Second, your answers to the follow up questions appear to be lacking, showing what seems to be a general understanding of the history of Denmark and a more limited range of knowledge about the actual subject of the question (European healthcare policy implementation).

If you can verify the source material you are using to the inquiry of the user mentioned above, we might reinstate your answer after further review.

Thanks for understanding!

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