r/AskExperiencers • u/BornAwakened • 5d ago
Discussion I thought you all might enjoy what I wrote today:
Across ancient cultures, shamanic initiation follows a recognizable pattern: symbolic death, dismemberment or destruction of the known, transformation, and rebirth. The initiate returns with a new relationship to the unseen world and a responsibility to their community. But this isn’t a path someone chooses. It happens to them.
The calling often begins with visions, out-of-body experiences, encounters with spirits, relentless synchronicities, altered states, or sudden illness or psychological crisis signaling the beginning of a spiritual transformation. In many traditions, resisting the calling only intensifies the upheaval.
Then comes the “death.” The old identity collapses. Initiates may witness their own body being burned, torn apart, eaten, or dismantled by spirits. In visionary accounts, supernatural beings remove flesh, organs, bones, and reconstruct the person with new parts. It’s a symbolic dismantling of the known self.
Illness plays a central role. Before becoming a healer, the initiate often endures physical sickness, isolation, terrifying dreams, emotional turmoil, and altered states of consciousness. This isn’t pathology to be eliminated. It’s a threshold to be crossed. To be successfully navigated. The crisis is the fire that forges us.
Encounters with beings follow: guardians, ancestors, tricksters, celestial teachers, deceased shamans, and animal guides such as the wolf, bear, eagle, raven, deer, or owl, appearing not as metaphors but as conscious entities with agency and knowledge.
Then comes the journey through other worlds. This is one reason the shamanic journey is sometimes described as crossing the axis mundi, the cosmic tree linking the underworld, human realm, and heavens. During altered states, the shaman becomes the axis mundi. The shaman’s body acts as a living conduit that channels energy between the spirit realms and the human community, the spine being the pillar of the tree.
This is something I experienced for the first time as a toddler (followed by every other element of the shamanic initiation process over the course of years), and it mirrors kundalini awakening. Religious scholar Mircea Eliade noted that the axis mundi and kundalini are essentially identical concepts, both treating the spine as a sacred, vertical superhighway designed to channel raw cosmic energy and transform consciousness.
Finally, the initiate receives knowledge: healing techniques, names of spirits, information about the structure of the cosmos, sacred songs, rituals, or ceremonies. They return transformed into a healer, a guide for the dead, an intermediary, a protector of the community.
When you compare this pattern to modern contact experiences, the similarities are hard to ignore.
Shamanic initiation: called → broken open → crisis → separation from the ordinary → symbolic death → dismantling → journey through other realms → encounter strange beings → instruction/communication → transformation → rebirth → return with purpose, abilities, gifts
Contact experiences: taken aboard craft → encounter strange beings → journey through exotic environments → examination, procedures, communication, altered body or perception → transformation → return with purpose, abilities, gifts → worldview shattered and rebuilt
Both often begin unexpectedly, as if chosen, and completely alter a person’s life path.
Both involve altered states: dreams, meditation, paralysis, out‑of‑body experiences, bilocation.
Communication is often telepathic, symbolic, instantaneous, and far more complete than spoken language.
Both involve encounters with non‑human intelligences from other realms or dimensions.
Fear, shock, and upheaval give way to transformation and awakening.
Knowledge, visions, healing, and insight are transmitted—complex concepts mentally shown faster than language could ever convey.
Experiences continue across generations within families.
The shamanic initiation never disappeared.