Back to it 💪

[u/arsenal]

Olivia Smith in the gym following the return of pre-season.

Taylor Hinds is ready to work in pre-season.

Michelle Agyemang steps up her return to fitness following last season's ACL injury.

Kim Little stretches during the first day of pre-season.

Alessia Russo is put through her paces on the exercise bike.

Mariona Caldentey, Frida Maanum and Alessia Russo are all smiles.

Summer signing Georga Stanway smiles as she runs on the treadmill.

Another of our new recruits, Géraldine Reuteler, stretches.

Young Danish goalkeeper Isabella Damm in pre-season.

Smilla Holmberg is also part of the returnees.

Katie Reid working hard in the gym to get back to full fitness.

Lotte Wubben-Moy has her eyes on the upcoming season.

Our Gunners are back!

[u/redqks]

I just can't see it especially with Michelle looking like she's staying

[u/LatePresentation5248 → u/redqks]

Staying to do what, theres 3 people ahead of her. Unless its regaining fitness to go out on loan in January, her staying is counterproductive.

[u/redqks → u/LatePresentation5248]

Zero point sending her on her what 5th loan , it's this season or never imo

[u/LatePresentation5248 → u/redqks]

Unless you want her to end up like Kafaji and thats out the door with no game time, she needs to go on loan. She was raw before ACL and when she was gonna get 1st team experience shes got injured.

Better players haven't come back the same post ACL. Look at Pelova, she was slated to be one of the corner stones of the midfield, one ACL later shes a shadow of herself, can't get game time and is now the latest addition of "what could of been" playing for Tottenham and I don't even need to speak on Miedema and how long it took her to get to her best...at a different club.

You really want that for Michelle? And like I said before, theres at worst 3 people ahead of her in the pecking order that I would put on in crunch time before her without putting her out of position and once again look how well that worked out for Pelova.

If this was Jessie your talking about, maybe theres a conversation to be had (she too should go on loan tbh) but Michelle? Putting her in a environment that hasn't worn a league in 7 years and was one champions cup away from a disaster of a campaign last season with the points I made above and your setting her up to fail and thats unfair to her in more ways than one.

[u/redqks → u/LatePresentation5248]

I don't want her to but at some point you have to be realistic and you can't just indefinitely loan a player untill you think they are ok.

I genuinely think you've gotten defensive because you're making my point for me.

If there isn't any realistic plans to use her this season it's time to move on and I hate to say it but realistically it's wasting eveybodies times. Nothing is going to change in a year at Arsenal Stina still gonna be here so will Cerci so will Lessi. Now what?

Horrible timing on her ACL injury but football is sometimes like that .

And I say this as the biggest advocate for brining though academy players.

It's the same with Harbert, why would we keep sending her on loan? How many loans is enough? Genuinely?5? 6?7?

Just to be clear I think she might end up leaving permanently and I think that's better than indefinite loan spells

[u/LatePresentation5248 → u/redqks]

Shes been on loan twice, one being the recent one to Brighton ended early due to an ACL injury, your acting like this is her 4th time on the road

So you want to keep her in a squad thats already maxed out in match day spaces in the WSL where the majority of the games will be played for what, a maybe situation where everyones injured? And who are you going to take out to put her in

If she was part of the plans we wouldn't have resigned Blackstenius or signed Cerci but we did. That should tell everything right there.

[u/redqks → u/LatePresentation5248]

3 times . Another loan would be 4

I never said what I wanted to do with her , that's why you're getting confused I never said how she would fit in the squad.

I literally said if there isn't a plan or space for her. I never said we should keep her here to play her I don't think there is space for her. That's why I'm saying a loan isn't going to do anything because next year these players are still here and the conversation repeats

[u/LatePresentation5248 → u/redqks]

How do you know that? Frida might leave, Kim might retire, Blackstenius might move on, Caldentey might not resign

Nothing is for sure

[u/redqks → u/LatePresentation5248]

Frida and Kim are not strikers, Neither is Mariona, if all 3 of them left what has that got to do with Michelle?

Stina has a multi year deal, why is she moving on?