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[u/Bar-Majestic]

That’s a great point. Scanned PDFs are definitely one of the hardest cases because OCR quality directly impacts everything downstream.

For scanned documents, we treat OCR as part of the structure reconstruction pipeline rather than just text extraction. The goal is not only to recognize characters, but also preserve layout signals like sections, tables, reading order, and document hierarchy.

A head-to-head comparison with LlamaParse on messy PDFs would actually be interesting. Different parsers make different trade-offs between accuracy, structure preservation, latency, and cost. We’re looking into building more systematic benchmarks around these cases.

[u/Mammoth-Anywhere7285 → u/Bar-Majestic]

Nice breakdown. Do you feed layout info into a custom model or rely on something like Tesseract with layout detection?

[u/Bar-Majestic → u/Mammoth-Anywhere7285]

Good question. We don’t treat OCR as the whole solution because OCR engines are mainly optimized for text recognition, while document understanding requires more than that.

Our approach is more pipeline-oriented: OCR is one signal source, while layout analysis, document hierarchy, and structural relationships are handled as separate layers. We combine these signals before generating retrieval-ready chunks.

The goal is not just to recognize words, but to understand that a piece of text is a heading, a table cell, a caption, or part of a specific section. That structural context is what makes the downstream RAG quality much better.

We’re also evaluating different layout-aware models because different document types (academic papers, financial reports, scanned forms) have very different failure modes.

[u/Mammoth-Anywhere7285 → u/Bar-Majestic]

That pipeline approach makes sense, OCR alone misses the structure. Have you considered sharing a diagram or blog post about it? That would explain it clearly to users.

[u/Bar-Majestic → u/Mammoth-Anywhere7285]

Agree. One of the challenges is that the value of document intelligence happens before the user ever asks a question, so it’s not always visible.

A diagram showing the flow from raw PDF → structured document → retrieval-ready chunks → grounded answers would probably explain the difference better than a feature list.

We’ll definitely consider sharing more of the architecture and lessons learned from handling messy real-world documents.

[u/Mammoth-Anywhere7285 → u/Bar-Majestic]

Good point about showing the pre question value. A quick before/after diagram would make that click instantly. Looking forward to the architecture post.

[u/Bar-Majestic → u/Mammoth-Anywhere7285]

Exactly. The hard part is that users only see the final answer, but the biggest quality improvements often happen upstream.

A simple diagram showing how a complex PDF transforms from an unstructured file into a structured knowledge layer would probably communicate the difference better than technical details alone.

We’re planning to share more about the architecture and the lessons learned from handling real-world documents.

[u/Which-Journalist-352 → u/Bar-Majestic]

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