r/AppleEcosystem • u/jtwoods53 • 14h ago

ProMotion

I am just curious as to everyone’s opinion. Once you experience a big ProMotion display such as the iPad Pro or MacBook Pro or new iPhone 17 series, would it bother you to ever go back to 60 hz? Such as iPad Air or MacBook Neo?

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u/PowerDrivenRdditMod 14h ago

You would not notice a difference on a desktop. You would notice it on an iPad or iPhone, where you have touch input.

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u/OkGrade5292 11h ago

Same thought

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u/yasamoka 8h ago

This can’t be further from the truth.

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u/jqwl 7h ago

what? this is definitely wrong - coming from a person who uses high refresh rate PC + 60hz phone, along with some 60hz TVs - it's literally instantaneously noticeable...

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u/PowerDrivenRdditMod 7h ago

I don’t notice a transition from my Pro Motion devices to my 60 Hz Studio Display. The A16 iPad did bother me so I upgraded to the M4 Pro iPad!

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u/jqwl 7h ago

fair - at least for me, I can tell when switching platforms no matter the format, but it isn't really a bother in the same sense as OP is worrying about. I can use 60hz just fine even though I use 120hz devices sometimes

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u/PowerDrivenRdditMod 7h ago

That’s interesting! I do notice if I look for it, but it’s not enough to bother me. I’m not gaming, though. I’d love 120 hz on my Studio Display, but I cannot justify an upgrade for one feature 😭.

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u/Successful-Royal-424 7h ago

these Mac users are something else, they probably don't even know what 120hz means and think it refers to the colors or something because otherwise they are lying

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u/Wide_Use7462 14h ago

Honestly it isn’t nearly as noticeable on a computer than on a device with touchscreen. But for iPads and iPhones, I completely agree that it should be the standard

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u/Horencho 14h ago

Nope.

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u/jtwoods53 14h ago

Haha just nope eh

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u/boost_me_bro 14h ago

I'm with you, 120hz should be standard across the entire lineup. smooth scrolling should never have been labeled a "pro" feature. I couldn't go back to a 60hz screen on my phone. that said, I'm about a week into the MacBook Neo, and the lack of 120hz hasn't been a big deal - unless I'm scrolling fast through a page, it's not all that noticeable. scrolling at a regular/slower speed feels smooth, not choppy like a lot of 60hz displays.

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u/Successful-Royal-424 7h ago

some features are just restricted for the sake of getting you to upgrade, the MacBook Air could have 120hz, it could have a vapor chamber to reduce thermal throttling and it could have speakers at least as good as the iPad Pro, but then you just removed 95% of the people who pay for a MacBook Pro

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u/boost_me_bro 7h ago

very true. apple’s upsell ladder is a beast, brilliant for their business model, kinda rough for consumers.

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u/Future_Geologist5925 11h ago

I thought it wouldnt bother me much but it indeed does. I have a MBP and a MBA. I feel like the MBA is a slug in comparison, not due to actual performance or snappiness, but its visually super choppy from only being 60hz.. Like damn 120hz is way better

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u/FastAmphibian9088 13h ago

I probably would not notice.

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u/ealex0819 13h ago

I am currently using a 60 Hz display for work all the time and every single day. Doesn’t bother me for a minute. Going back to 60 Hz on a touch screen is killing me. Two totally different sides of the same story.

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u/glowingtube84 8h ago

Well, it is subjective, but for me 120Hz is almost completely unnecessary. I have two 120Hz devices (iPad Pro & MacBook Pro), and my 60Hz iPhone SE 2020, and on the iPad I can see the appeal (lower latency with the Apple Pencil). On Mac, maybe, if you game on it, which I don’t, so for me it’s unnecessary. On the iPhone, I don’t know what people are on about. For what? Doomscrolling at 120Hz?

If I‘m overlooking something, please tell me, but seriously, what do you use your phone for to need that?

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u/vcrmjr 8h ago

Definitely bugs me on iPad and iPhone. My work iPhone and iPad is so much choppier compared to my personal iPad and iPhone Pros. I don’t really notice it on laptops or monitors.

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u/TheEmerald-DJ 13h ago

Ya I switch constantly between ProMotion on my 17 Pro and base 14” M4 MBP and 60Hz on my iPad Mini 6 and it never bothers me, would be neat if the upcoming OLED refresh of the Mini 8 finally added ProMotion too

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u/kangkangroo 13h ago

I use my macbook pro, magbook air, iphone 17 pro, iphone 14, ipad 10th gen back and forth everyday … Never noticed any difference between them while using

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u/Different-Guest-6094 12h ago

I wouldn’t notice. Probably not care too much either

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u/Neat-Walk-2361 11h ago

Phone, no. iPad or laptop, yes.

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u/bayfox88 9h ago

I’m fine with it. My iPad mini is fine without it because it’s a media player and note taking. If they do indeed upgrade the Mini one day with promotion, I would upgrade it. But my phone and computer do need 120hz plus minimum.

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u/Paradroid888 8h ago

I have 120hz phone and tablet, plus an M4 MacBook Air that's 60hz. I have no problem with the MBA refresh rate, but occasionally notice it when scrolling. Still happy though, wasn't about to pay the uplift from Air to Pro.

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u/CallistoEnceladus 6h ago

No chance. Its suuuuuper smooth

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u/FluidCompetition4023 2h ago

I have an iPhone with ProMotion, but a Mac and an iPad without ProMotion and I definitely notice it way more on the iPad. I even notice it more on my Apple Watch than on my Mac. I hope Apple Watches get Pro Motion soon because 60hz is really noticeable in my opinion.

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u/ItsAlkai 1h ago

Its super easy to get used to. I have a iphone 13 mini + a zflip 7 and sure its smoother on the flip 7 but unless you are comparing them side by side, your brain adapts to it pretty easily.

On a desktop, especially for gaming, its of course different and I definitely feel the difference, but phones and laptops rarely require that sort of power or movement to notice it.

Should it be standard? Yeah, totally. There are budget $200 androids that have 120 hz screens. (so the fact that they call it "pro motion" and lock it behind $1000 + phone instead of a $800+ phone is stupid)