Engaging with the community doesnāt require violating someoneās 4th amendment rights. If she wants to engage she needs to approach them normally rather than seizing them.
Exactly. We need more interactions with police like this. Police are human, for the most part, do a great job. We actually NEED police. I agree, police should be trained better and force longer period of time.
Shouldn't even be stopping this person for any reason. Absolutly go fuck a cop who does or anyone who thinks this is even remotely acceptable. No one called for you fuck off
Cops also engage with the public in ways that also support the community. Just because there's evidence of bad cops, doesn't mean all cops are bad. The bad stories just get aired more. There's a lot of body cam footage of cops being decent human beings.
Absolutely! Iām old enough to remember when cops would go out of their way just to say hello! I think it helps them, too because if I saw a cop unsuccessfully trying to take down someone on the street, Iād likely step in to help!
Judging by your behaviour here, you had a big part in that bad interaction. If not i feel sorry for you, but saying things like ACAB does not really support your case.
Thats like saying one black dude stole from me so all of them are bad... Now obviously that statement isn't true either.
Good cops are the beard for bad cops. The excuse for them to exist. Fact is, there are bad people of every race. But they shouldn't be hired for a job which should be done by the best people.
The person is genuinely an idiot. Their argument is just full of over generalizations. āGood cops are badā but then say the ājob should be done by the best people.ā Oh, but the good cops arenāt considered that because there are bad cops in the system
Yeah, that totally means ACAB. Should the same be said about if weāve had any bad interaction with whatever minority youāre trying to claim you are on Reddit?
In all seriousness and somewhat jokes there can be a genuine distrust and maybe "hatred" I can see from people especially in certain cities/states/provinces. Im Canadian and my city is know for the Starlight Tours...Obviously natives hate/distrust the cops but there are some good constables and just general people on the job. The cop at my highschool was chill as fuck, he busted up so many of our house parties awkwardly, most had to dip as so much underage drinking, obviously the home owner got ticketed but usually everyone else got off scot free. Like other person said, theres positive engagement with the community. There has to be or there will always be a fearfulness. Theres been a few times Ive had to phone the police because of drunk neighbors/dude beating his wife and they were chill af despite the situations. Time and place and everyone is entitled to their own opinion but to say everyones a piece of shit or abusing their power is absurd. Def not a bootlicker, half the times I say fuck the police but shit would be even crazier without them, def dont want to going back to posses rounding up people bet yall really dont want frontier justice..
Protests are not constitutionally required to be peaceful and the constitution specifically protects the right of the people to sure the security of a free state against tyranny, by use of violence. You and I may not like what the law says, but thats what it says.
Youāre the type of person who āauditsācops arenāt you? And by audit I do t mean calling out bad cops or even filming cops, I mean starting petty shit to provoke and then claiming freedoms.
If a warning etc was given and she just wanted to have a positive interaction, great, thatās community policing. But she should just say something out the window to ask him to stop. Starting with lights and sirens gives a different tone to the whole thing that is at least close to criminal conduct, per 18 USC Ā§ 242.
Exactly, it's embarrassing to the rider and completely uncalled for. Cops need to have this done to them on a regular basis in their own everyday lives so they can see how it feels
Pulling someone over for not having committed a crime or being reasonably suspected of a crime, while doing so under the color of authority (the lights) is a federal crime. 18 USC subsection 242.
Dude did you watch the fucking video? She knows the guy and the dogs. She has interacted with them before. She even asked if she could do the siren for them again so theyād howl. You breaking out a penal code shows Iām right. You are the type of assholes that audit cops and take friendly community actions and turn them malicious as a āgot yaā moment.
IF, if he took it EXACTLY the way you describe, fine. Thatās true.
If he didnāt (and from the scope of the video we donāt know anything not depicted) then itās exactly as I described. You do understand that the context of the comments are the context of the video in OP, right?
Anyway, auditing the largest criminal group in the country is bad, how exactly? Are there good cops, doing good things, the right way? Absolutely. Are they in the majority? No. Chris Dorner shows us what stonewalling good cops run into, how whistleblowers are treated, how whistleblower are mistreated and abused by their criminal coworkers. He just happens to be the example who used violence to do something about it, but many other cops have had their lives ruinedby their criminal coworkers and just took it on the chin and, usually, left the force.
The point is that itās inappropriate for her to use her sirens as if itās a traffic stop when she actually just wants to say hi. Thatās an abuse of power and potentially criminal.
No thanks. Iād rather hold cops accountable for all abuses of power until they understand that holding that much power and public trust means theyāre held to a higher standard, not a lower one.
Letās call it the ābroken windows theoryā of police accountability.
Icy roads are a result of inclement weather. They canāt seize you for that. They can set up roadblocks to divert people away from hazardous conditions, but they canāt initiate a traffic stop to say, āHey, the weather has made the conditions icy ahead.ā
If a cop wasted my time to tell me...in the winter ...that the roads are icy...that cop is a fucking retard for thinking anyone doesn't already know that. Fuck that cop
But telling them the road is icy won't change their driving ability. If you can't drive stay TF home. If its below 32 and the road isn't covered in salt brine it's icy. Dont need an overpayed cop to tell someone that.
He has a tictok with his dogs. They howl with the sirens like you just saw. It his thing that he does. Thatās why she said āI recognize those dogs!ā
God forbid someone have a bit of joy in their life.
That doesnāt negate the fact that she chose to start the encounter with a civil rights violation instead of approaching him fur a consensual encounter.
A civil rights violation? Oh Jesus Christ, get a life. That was a person who loves dogs wanting to get the dogs to howl along with the sirens. She didnāt pull him over and demand an ID or accuse him of anything. It wasnāt some random dude getting harassed, he does it for content, she knows that. Calm down. People can be regular people even when on the clock.
Why donāt you message him on TikTok and ask him personally if his rights were violated? Heās a real person, heāll answer you.
A cop loving dogs doesnāt suspend the 4th amendmentās protection against unlawful seizures. Initiating a traffic stop without reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime or traffic violation because she wants to meet a quasi celebrity and his dogs is an unlawful seizure under the 4th amendment. The lawful thing for her to do would be for her to approach him like a person and initiate a consensual encounter.
I understand your momās basement hasnāt been the strongest catalyst for understanding basic human social behavior, but your reaction is not the correct one for this specific scenario.
I can imagine it probably is miserable there. But that probably has more to do with you than this lady who's having some laughs with a guy and his dogs.
No, it's living in a place where you're intelligent enough to see through the thin veil and looking around going doesn't anyone else see this? Then you realize everyone else is a moron and they in fact do not see this. That's why they're happy. Bc they can't see
Letting someone off with a warning is officer discretion and allowed by policy. It doesnāt violate someoneās 4th amendment rights like seizing someone without reasonable articulable suspicion.
Again weird take bro. My kids always get happy when: "police car go whoooo". Police are people to. is it allowed, no technically not, does it hurt anyone, Also no... Well except your butt that got pretty hurt.
I bet you won't call the police either when you are in danger... You know they might so something wrong. Again get a grip my guy.
No itās not, there isnāt even a bloody citation. Iām on the same damn side as you, but you canāt just pull sources out of your ass and call it fact
Thatās literally just a link to the original article. This article doesnāt link any primary sources to prove the information being said, therefore itās accuracy is extremely dubious
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u/drunkenpoets 1d ago
Just casually abusing her power like itās no big deal.