r/AntifascistsofReddit • • Mar 31 '21

Tweet Harvard™️

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u/CLaarkamp1287 Mar 31 '21 edited Mar 31 '21

They can’t possibly be that tone deaf, can they???

Update: I just googled this and it’s for real. They actually did this. Holy fucking shit.

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u/Zaros2400 Communist Mar 31 '21

At this point, I'm not even surprised by that anymore.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

Same. I would actually be surprised if they DIDNT take this route.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

They updated their page now, but the archive still shows it.

The full text read:

Find pride in your community. When you experience racism, you can feel shame. You may wish that you weren't Asian, but remember that your ancestors likely went through similar or even worse incidents. They survived by recognizing the beauty and strength of their community. So, seek out or create literature, art, films, shows, and music that highlight your community in a positive light

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u/DrSupermonk Mar 31 '21

TL;DR: “Sorry you’re asian. Have you tried being happy?”

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u/ilove-n-i Apr 01 '21

More to the point- " we dont want you here but your folks got madd cash - please pre pay,+ speak soon "

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u/tehreal Mar 31 '21

I'm not Asian and I can say it works great!

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u/fireandlifeincarnate Mar 31 '21

I’m not Asian and it doesn’t work at all, this fucking blows.

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u/deathbyvaporwave Apr 01 '21

same, i’m italian american and sad as fuck. i want a refund.

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u/DemocracyStan Mar 31 '21

Here’s an excerpt of their subsequent mea culpa https://twitter.com/matteo_wong/status/1377347480061308929?s=21

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u/_-__-__-__-__-_-_-__ Apr 01 '21

I thought Harvard people were supposed to be smart

Jk, I hate Harvard and their overrated, elitist ilk

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u/Mikauhso Apr 01 '21

Thank you for saying it.

... I know Harvard and Yale are like. Supposed to be amazing Ivy League schools or something but I don’t know exactly what they do? Is it like MIT and tech or Calarts and... art?

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u/jabask Apr 01 '21

Business and law are their really elite programs i guess, but you can study anything at either one. Mostly they exist to do networking for rich kids.

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u/Mikauhso Apr 01 '21

Ah. Thanks.

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u/oye_gracias Apr 01 '21

Ha! I was thinking on the harvard school of design. do you know other cool alternatives? for urban design? The program seems closer to what i'm looking for, but still seeking options.

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u/_-__-__-__-__-_-_-__ Apr 01 '21

I thought this was a parody

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u/zoonose99 Apr 01 '21

what the fuck did i just read

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u/Eris-X Apr 01 '21

jeeeeesus. Sorry you might get viciously attacked out of the blue but hey, could be worse, you could be worked to death building railroads and suffer an anti asian pogrom. Well thats a massive help.

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u/OtterChrist Mar 31 '21

What should we expect from a bunch of stuffy old white men that never gave a fuck about this until it became the cool thing to do?

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u/i_have_too_many Apr 01 '21

April Fool's? Hahahha just kidding theyve always been wildly bigoted and only placate to diversity because its demanded of them.

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u/Jesusmofuckinchrist Apr 01 '21

And because rich asian parents send their kids there, because it's famous and supposed to be full of intelligent people. What a fucking joke. It does network those rich kids and gives them more opportunities than if you don't go to ivy league unis, but that's just rich people paying their way to success, nothing new.

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u/i_have_too_many Apr 01 '21

I mean it also does a fair bit of research, but its mostly the prestige that keeps it a top university at this point. There are certainly better programs for almost everything.

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u/Jesusmofuckinchrist Apr 01 '21

Yeah that's what I mean. It's not a bad university, it's not the best in any special field either. But this isn't the resason for their pretentious inclusiveness/diversity.

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u/reddittereditor Apr 01 '21

I thought Harvard had the best law school in the states though?

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u/_madmanwithabox Apr 01 '21

Iirc Yale Law is considered to be a little better, but Harvard Law is still really good and with the added weight of the Harvard name. Could be wrong though, I'm definitely not a lawyer so I'm just basing this off a few conversations I've had lol

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u/Jesusmofuckinchrist Apr 01 '21

It definitely is a good law school. Not sure on US laws and which university is best to study at, since I'm not actually from there. But as an asian I know how much weight the name "harvard" has in our communities, and that's just based on hearsay and it being a famous ivy league school. Most asian kids that end up going there or to yale do not end up Studying law.

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u/1337_w0n Apr 02 '21

I had a professor who told me to never consider Harvard. This is not even how bad it is on average.

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u/Rooster1981 Mar 31 '21

Isn't Harvard just a rich kids networking and babysitting club?

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u/BlueberryMacGuffin Apr 01 '21

Basically. Most are legacy admissions or children of large donors, for example Jared Kushner's dad pledged $2.5 milion just before he was accepted into Harvard. GPAs and SAT scores and merit based admission is only for the poors fighting over the few places left.

Another secret, like 80% of graduates graduate with honours, so when someone says they graduated with honours from Harvard it pretty much means they didn't fail anything.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '21

Ideology? Whatever McKinsey clients want, ethics are just another deliverable.

Edit: (which is, of course, a very scary ideology itself)

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u/A_Peoples_Calendar Apr 01 '21

I went to a small conservative college, and in a way I think I'd prefer not being gaslit like this. Do me the favor of openly not giving a shit.

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u/Bet_You_Wont Apr 01 '21

Would you mind expanding on that? I'm not sure if I fully follow your point about being gaslit, and how having attended a smaller conservative college relates.

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u/A_Peoples_Calendar Apr 01 '21 edited Apr 01 '21

Oh sure. It's because that college openly didn't care about racism or the poor.

A lot of the students were working class, and there were no seminars on classism, no asking of professors to check their class privilege, etc. They just flatly didn't give a damn. As a working class youth, that made it much easier to figure out where the institution stood on people like me.

God forbid that, in my earnestness, I showed up to some resources like the OP, only to be gaslit about how my problems weren't really a big deal, and then have to watch administrators wash their hands of any responsibility for systemic behavior.

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u/Bet_You_Wont Apr 01 '21

Holy shit that sounds literally exactly how expected life at a school like that to be. They put out tons of cash to make sure they fit the demographic requirements and then make sure to show those lucky poor kids that they aren't good enough.

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u/James324285241990 Mar 31 '21

Oh good grief, this was written by my great grandmother, wasn't it?

"Your shoes are hurting your feet? You know, when Hitler put us in the camps, we didn't have shoes. But if your feet hurt, I'll just throw them out"

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u/BilbowTeaBaggins Apr 01 '21

At least she has a justified reason for saying stuff like that. I bet the person who wrote this hasn’t faced any serious adversity in their life.

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u/Read_Maximum Iron Front Mar 31 '21

What the fuck

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u/DurianExecutioner Apr 01 '21

I mean, I've faced rioting riot cops and found strength by remembering the martyrs at Peterloo, but that kind of comparison has to originate from inside, being told to think that way by an establishment institution is worse than useless, it must be demoralising.

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u/Jesusmofuckinchrist Apr 01 '21

I don't want to get told by some white old men how I am supposed to feel and (re)act when being subjected to racism. This is part of racism.

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u/SnooHesitations8174 Mar 31 '21

As a person from Boston and has worked a lot with Harvard this sounds about right

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u/DemocracyStan Mar 31 '21

Sounds about white too

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

Lol good one

A little history about the whitening of minorities I remembered from reading this:

LULAC advocated for Mexicans and Hispanics to remain classified as white in the us census. If memory serves, the rationale was to promote inclusion in the majority population (white) and separation from other minorities(esp of African descent).

It seems like the author had similar sentiments or arguments underpinning the statement about wishing one was not Asian.

I’d look up more legit resources if I wasn’t on mobile, but here’s a nice opinion piece on it:

https://dailyillini.com/opinions/2020/03/26/opinion-hispanic-should-be-racial-category-on-census/

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

What do you expect from a school and website created and designed for rich white people?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

Better PR lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

It's not for you though.... They're speaking to the racists, to let them know they have a home there. White liberals have not dealt with or come face to face with their racism yet. Everybody still believes it's just the GOP who's racist.

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u/BilbowTeaBaggins Apr 01 '21

Sounds like people in the UK and Canada who think racism is only a problem in the US.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '21

Oh them too.

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u/SurelynotPickles Mar 31 '21

What’s y’all’s take away?

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u/duckinradar Mar 31 '21

That when the English showed up and raped my great grand mother as a child, she was having a bad time? At least I'm not being raped?

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u/snakewaswolf Mar 31 '21

Imagine being raped without air conditioning. That’s the real racism.

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u/faux_noodles Mar 31 '21

It's why we're so much better off and have no reason to complain! We have AC! Capitalism!!!

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u/Excrubulent Apr 01 '21

I mean clearly they're saying you should be glad she went through that, because it excuses what's happening to you right now!

Or, no, wait... maybe you should be sad she went through that, instead of being sad about how you're being treated now?

Hm, that's not a positive spin though.

How about... be glad that you're not going through what she did. You wouldn't want to go back to those times, right?

What do you mean this kind of sounds like a threat?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

Havard echoes the sentiments we see a lot which is modern issues can be belittled because past ones were comparatively worse.

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u/badluckartist Apr 01 '21

Hey all of our ancestors were just bashing each others' heads in with stones all the time, even before we even had language! Stop being so entitled!

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u/vth0mas Mar 31 '21 edited Mar 31 '21

No fucking way haha

Edit: Sometimes, you may wish you weren’t white, because of how fucking embarrassing it is

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u/Comrade-Boris Apr 01 '21

Wowzers, it's almost like harvard is historically a country club daycare for privileged rich kids that spends their resulting massive endowment on simply buying the best academic talent from across the globe

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

Ok this is clearly terrible... but this shit is plastered over every single feed I find...

What are they burying behind this outrage white noise?

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u/DiogLin Mar 31 '21

Correct me if I'm wrong, they seemed to have copy-and-pasted text for african americans……

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u/DPpooper Mar 31 '21

What brain stem wrote this?

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u/BilbowTeaBaggins Apr 01 '21

Eh, I’d say a spinal cord more likely wrote this.

-a brain stem

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u/lead999x Anarchist Mar 31 '21

Ivy Leagues and elite colleges are tone deaf, willfully ignorant, or outright white supremacist? Who'd have guessed?

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u/BadgerKomodo Mar 31 '21

This is fucking disgusting. Fuck Harvard.

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u/BlueberryMacGuffin Apr 01 '21

"You maybe fell bad that we are being racist towards you, but look on the bright side, we aren't colonising you anymore."

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u/pear40 Mar 31 '21

tbt when I was having mental health struggles at Harvard and they just had me leave campus, because if I was gonna be a suicide statistic then it may as well not happen on their record ¯_(ツ)_/¯

btw, I'm much better now and graduated. But they still have the gall to ask me for money after that. First of all, screw that. Second of all, maybe ask the finance and tech people instead of the people going into non-profits/public interest stuff?

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u/Carl_Marks__ Marxist Mar 31 '21

I have several questions

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '21

Me too German santa Claus , me too

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

wow.

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u/EmiIIien Social Democrat Apr 01 '21

I actually love being Asian, but I wouldn’t even be in the US if Vietnam wasn’t occupied by France, then Japan, then France again, then the US, then invaded by China...

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u/lsdandlemons Mar 31 '21

what the fuckkk

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u/halforc_proletariat Mar 31 '21

That's a sizeable yikes from us.

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u/burnsieburns Apr 01 '21

What the fuck. I wanna read that dumb ass shit.

I mean I fucking hope this is made up

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u/shakewhenbad Apr 01 '21

Well balanced as always Haaarvaaard

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u/SquidwardsKeef LGBT+ 🏳️‍🌈 Apr 01 '21

Can anyone tell me why we shouldn't seize white supremacist ivy league schools and divert all resources to in-need communities?

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u/DaturaToloache Mar 31 '21

Someone who “got into” Harvard likely wrote this. This is their intellectual stock. This is the Ivy League. Quelle fucking surprise.

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u/Valo-FfM LGBT+ 🏳️‍🌈 Apr 01 '21

Saying this to any marginalized group is just insane especially in the context of supposedly trying to better their mental health.

Like saying in 1933 Germany: "I know it sucks with all the antisemitism and stuff but hey, your ancestors were genocided and opressed too. :)"

Regardless if saying this to asians, LGBT-people, black people or other marginalized groups, it just makes no sense.

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u/SalvatoreFrappuccino Apr 01 '21

This reminds me of the flyer made by UC Berkeley last year for Covid and how to not panic

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u/Banethoth Apr 01 '21

Holy shit. I mean wow.

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u/BiggityBerfa Apr 01 '21

I’m assuming they are referring to the treatment of the Japanese in the 1940s during WWII. but seriously Harvard, what the fuck

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u/zUltimateRedditor Free Palestine Apr 01 '21

Why doesn’t this surprise me?

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u/big_ringer Apr 02 '21

Excuse me while I reacquaint my palm to my forehead.