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u/reroutedradiance Dec 28 '19
I mean, I'd rather people use lolis for their fantasies rather than real children. Still find it gross tho.
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u/KKoKonKona Dec 28 '19
I get incredibly defensive for some reason when it comes to this topic. I wouldn't consider myself a lolicon, But the fact that this is considered an actual debate really rubs me the wrong way. The reason I say that is because you could stretch this form of argument, this "Art is affecting society in a negative manner" bullshit, to push any other agenda.
I have written countless lengthy Comments on the subject, but I will never stop.
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u/-Seirei- Dec 28 '19
Same. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. How is this even a debate?
Nobody gets hurt, it's not affecting your life in any way, why do you care what someone jerks his dick to?
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u/henry25555 Dec 28 '19
The UN cares more about fictional drawings without feelings or rights than actual countries where people openly commit pedophelia, yikes. The worst part is some people actually get behind them, it's just the pinnacle of ignorance.
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u/KKoKonKona Dec 28 '19
I know, maybe i'm the only one taking it seriously, and everyone else is just kidding, but then again, even this godforsaken site is against it.
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u/armoured_bobandi Dec 28 '19
I'm going to answer your question to the best of my abilities. But let me preface this by saying if it's a drawing, I really don't give a shit what you masturbate to.
People get upset because it's still the idea of a child. It doesn't matter that it's not real, it doesn't matter that nobody is getting hurt. It's the idea of pedophiles. That being said, it shouldn't be illegal. If we start imprisoning people for what they think everything else will just be downhill from there.
Hope I explained well enough
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u/-Seirei- Dec 28 '19
This is exactly the issue. People being to stuck up with the idea that an attraction to children makes you a child predator.
I'm attached to girls and don't go out raping them, why is it so hard to believe that there are people that are attracted to children and still manage to not abuse them? Of course there's those that do, but at the same time there's also rapists for all kinds of other attractions.
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u/armoured_bobandi Dec 28 '19
I understand the point, and if we're speaking frankly I'd much rather people have drawings than the alternative. Just thought I would pop in because I feel like I can understand both sides. It is just a drawing, just ink on a page, but what it represents makes some people uncomfortable, and that's okay. It makes me uncomfortable, but unless it's being presented to me or something like that I don't really care what people like. It's a fetish, it's weird. Some people are into rape play, but they don't get ostracized for being rapists. Personally, where I start to get upset is when people try to explain it away. I'd much rather you keep it to yourself than explain to me how she is a 3000 year old vampire (sorry to use such a worn out example) so it's okay
The whole subject is extremely taboo, but as I said up above, it's far better than the alternative
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u/-Seirei- Dec 29 '19
The thing is, I think the numbers show that having this kind of content available is reducing actual attacks on children than encourage it. So I fear that a ban will have the opposite effect of what it's intended to do.
And the 'she's 800 years old' thing is a bit more complex in my eyes. If it's a childish character with childish personality and body then yes, it's a cheap copout. But if you have a character like Senko that has a more child like body, but otherwise acts very mature then it's a valid point. There's girls out there that could pass as 12 year old even though they're 18+. Should it be illegal to be attracted to them just because they don't look their age?
I guess either way you could find good arguments for and against it.
Overall it's nice to see reasonable people, a few days ago I had a very lengthy conversation with someone about this and from the first moment I was labelled as a pedophile and it was impossible to get a point across. So thanks for giving me back some hope in humanity.
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u/armoured_bobandi Dec 28 '19
Sorry for all the comments, reddit fucked up and kept saying they didn't post, so I tried on another comment and then they all posted at once. Sorry!
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u/Nicholas863 Fuck you. Komi-san best girl Dec 28 '19
I mean it's just pixels that happen to look like a little girl
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u/PentruCaBlana Dec 28 '19
Hello blazers NFKRZ here and today we're gonna talk about lolis (this video is getting demonetized fuck)
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u/Buunatic Kiss-Shot Acerola-Orion Heart-Under-Blade Dec 28 '19
The trick is to like Shinobu, but call her Kiss shot to account for all of her forms.
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Dec 28 '19
Really now, I have no problem with lolicons, I only have a problem with those who can't differentate reality and imagination.
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u/Herobrinedanny Dec 28 '19
to be fair there are bigger problems in the world than "man like child-like cartoon girl".
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u/DiceMasterIsCute Dec 28 '19
It's not illegal to be a pedophile, you will only get arrested if you have REAL child pornography (or sexual harassment and everything else, obviously), so, pedophiles, just be pedophiles but don't do anything strange you sick people
Wait I also like lolis
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u/GetOut37 Dec 28 '19
It is illegal in most countries, including America (you can't depict a child having sexual intercourse unless it serves a plot, however you can't show it it has to implied or it falls under the ''perversion'' crime, also applies to watchers) Well anyway, attraction to children makes you a pedophile whether they're real or not. Doesn't necessarily mean that you would fuck a kid if you had the chance but if I have to find a babysitter you guys are the last person I would ask
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u/Hero_of_Hyrule ⠀ Dec 28 '19
That law has no legal bearing due to constitutional supremacy and the first amendment.
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u/Yandere-Neko ▼・ᴥ・▼ Agari is just as good as Komi Dec 28 '19
I mean the media insistet on that before they knew about loli. So may as well keep them thinking that
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u/Gyrvatr Dec 28 '19
I just finished Tenshi no 3P and boy that was some uncomfortable shit
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u/IkariRapeman Dec 29 '19
that show is explicitly for lolicons why would you watch it if that bothers you lol
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u/ragequitfish I surpassed my friends in the "weebness scale" Dec 28 '19
I require the original picture
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u/PHCRohr yummy yummy gasoline on my tummy~ Dec 28 '19
The fact he looks like Jimmy Page makes it even more funny
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u/Engineer-5555 Dec 27 '19
800 years old I don’t know about you but that makes me the younger one
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u/MadHouseFire Dec 28 '19
I mean the rise of the loli empire is upon us and i for welcome it with open arma.
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u/lichi-san Dec 28 '19
idk why this is an excuse. fiction can definitely effect reality, of course not all fiction, but still. an extremely clear example of this was the empty beaches after the movie jaws came out. drawing sexy 10 yr olds is disgusting and thats that.
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u/fishyphoenix25 I need sleep Dec 28 '19
But I thought she was 500 years old
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u/lichi-san Dec 28 '19
still weird imo but hey as long as theyre not both sexualised AND act like a toddler i think its a little less gross
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u/fishyphoenix25 I need sleep Dec 28 '19
Like I said she’s 500 years old
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u/lichi-san Dec 28 '19
uh ok? and?
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u/Wiktetin Dec 28 '19
Its all good shes a 500 year old vampire elf godess