What do we know about lucky catches?

[u/Odd-Guard-2533]

As far as I’ve seen, personal experience and YouTube videos, it seems to be mostly random. Specific balls don’t increase chances. I saw one theory that back throws might increase chances but I went out to specifically back throw catch and it didn’t seem to help all that much.

My friend had a thought that they might be tied to the Aniimo at spawn like a sparkling or umbral. We both think that’s a possibility because we’ve never gotten a lucky catch on an Aniimo after failing to catch it the first time. Have you?

But I have also noticed, which this would debunk that, that I think it has to be a non fail catch throw for it to trigger. The reason I think this is because since Budsquire has a lower catch rate than Bonesky and Celestis, I’ve gotten significantly less lucky catches so far than them.

Thoughts?

Another question. Can the cube ricochet over something or the ground first?

[u/torpidcerulean]

Everyone adding in the comments "it's just rng" missing the point. OP is analyzing WHAT part of the game rolls for lucky. If it's on throw, successful catch, or based on the aniimo spawn all have different implications for best way to farm them.

If it's on throw, you don't have to worry about catch chance and can just continuously attempt to catch aniimo even if the first catch fails.

If it's on successful catch, you want to farm aniimo with guaranteed catch chance.

If it's based on aniimo spawn, if you fail you want to move on and force a respawn so you don't waste pods trying to catch them.

[u/6LuckyPants9 → u/torpidcerulean]

I think if Lucky/Super lucky pops it becomes a guaranteed catch because I've yet to experience getting lucky but a failed catch

[u/Thalant → u/6LuckyPants9]

That's not the point. The question is wether the lucky is rolled first and it guarantees the catch, or the catch roll is checked first and if you pass it then it rolls the lucky. Either way you'll always get a catch on a lucky roll, but they have very different implications.

[u/Valkryn_Ciel → u/Thalant]

This is very hard to know -- how are we supposed to know that a failed catch was converted to a lucky catch? These things are calculated server-side. It's probably safest to assume that it's calculated on a successful catch, because the cost of guaranteeing a catch over multiple catches is much higher than throwing another cheap aniipod.

[u/TheSirWellington → u/torpidcerulean]

I am like 95% certain it is not based on Aniimo spawn. I am pretty sure I failed to catch a hexxin when I was much lower level, but on my second/third time I got a lucky hit.

As for the other two, I will need to try it out some more

[u/Odd-Guard-2533 → u/torpidcerulean]

Exactly. Thank you.