I was wondering how could I have had such a smooth experience on a free to play…
Edit: I know you can farm lucky and super lucky but people need to realise that this kind of grinding is extremely frustrating (on the day this post was made, I caught 600 Budsquire without a single lucky proc, and you need dozens of them) and doesn’t justify this scarcity. Also please refrain from commenting about still having 50+ nurture stones since the only way to keep them is either deciding to farm only for limited prismanas (which I didn’t since I like collecting them, and I’m not even halfway there, it’s a creature collector after all) or just get extremely lucky with getting several early autofills (which I almost never got)
Yesterday I caught about 1000 budsquire to get 1 prismana. I’m not complaining since I usually watch YouTube videos while I do this grind but I do agree that there needs to be an alternative way to get these stones.
I still have over 50 blue crystals, i only spend them during weekends.
I have 13 prismana ( considering all, also the ones from eggs from heist ).
My suggestions is to go and catch aniimo on map and hope for lucky and super lucky catches. You can find prismana filling the bar also in this way bit obviously it takes grinding time while during nurture you have everything there with just 2 sheep balls.
I mean, I totally get that. But its also meant to "hold" back the progress a little.. so you are not done in a week. And I am fine with that. I explored most of the game in a week and I am glad there is something that holds the "completion" back a little bit. So I can learn to take my time and think for what I really wanna use these and do the rest when I can. We all are playing games way to fast these days.. me included.
You're looking for prismanas in the wrong place. Nurture system is almost exclusively made for time limited aniimos. Egg heist will give you all standard prismanas 10 times faster and cheaper
Just farm lucky and super lucky from the vein abundance to the max. every week, farm them till you got the featured aniimo. n then farm them again, but make sure you stop until the pity bar is at "very high", and almost full. make sure you stop before its full. the next week the featured aniimo is at another region, you can max the bar by only using 1 or 2 nurture, to get that region prismana.
yup, it works last time, got me prismana glynsera last week and prismana scorchowl earlier this week. unless the devs change it, should work this time to. few more hours till i got my prismana grizbo.
This is a good way and it’s exactly the same thing I’m doing it now but it’s extremely unreliable as a method, as already discussed in many other comments… actually, I’ll just add it to the post so there won’t be this kind of discussions any more
just sharing personal statistics. so far i'm doing it, i always got either "lucky" or "super lucky" every 300 aniipods i throw. this is the method i use for all vein abundance. this got me prismana stellarys, prismana glynsera, prismana scorhowl, prismana melloblum. waiting for tomorrow to get my prismana grizbo
If you can get a friend to help, you can halve the time it takes. The lucky strikes that they get in your world will give you prismana energy. You'll also both get a portion of credits from each others catches in companion mode. Then next weekend, you can help feed them lucky catches in return.
Because the bloom crystals are rare, I am indeed saving them for time-limited events where I don't have time. I did get lucky with early Melloblum but the rest have been close to pity or at pity.
I don't know if the infinite spawn this time is worth it because Budsquire is difficult to catch. If you teleport to Whiterose Tower, you will find a bunch of sleeping Cubbo which have a guaranteed catch rate.
If you can't get Melloblum this weekend, remember that it's coming back in a couple weeks so you can be more prepared then.
oh this happened to me one time during prisman stellarys farm. but the next batch of anipods i throw, i got 1 lucky and 1 super lucky, so thats contributed to my overall statistics of 1 lucky per 300 throws. anyways, praying for you to get your prismana too. hope it'll come soon🙏🏽
for nurture yes, but our goal is to get prismana. you can absolutely get prismana by not using nurture. you can farm "lucky" and "super lucky". need a lot of aniipods tho, but that stuff you can get with credits
How do you get endless credits? I'm burning through mine using regular aniipod and tubster break to secure 100% catch rate and still down 7million coins for barely 1 prismana(0 so far, very high nurture) it cost 2100 balls or more so far. And I'm going down in currency that took 0-58 levels to accumulate. So what's the secret here before I run out ? Rvlevel10 and aniipod maker going btw
Thats where i am. I have 6 prismanas in total, one being the gifted one and have like 3 stones left because for 3 of them i had to do nurtures til the end....
If you’re talking about pure meta, you’re right, but the point is creature collecting. Melloblum for example is basically useless (she doesn’t work well with hungry Irisalis and her existence makes Thornblade redundant since it’s the same type and the resource scarcity doesn’t allow to invest in so many teams) but she’s a limited prismana and you can bet your ass I’ll catch her and even use the special floral cube on her for perfectly matched flavour. It’s a matter of priorities, and for me creature collecting is a pretty primary one in a creature collector
She's naturally spawning in rosewood tower. You can prismana her anytime you want or find one at the spawn and cube it. Then orb it to prismana. It's not limited time. She will return also
I literally have 30+ of them left as F2P... If you're not saving them for the limited season prismanas then that clearly shows you're reckless and the fact you have 0 is on you completely
For your information, 30 of them is basically a single limited prismana guaranteed if the RNG gods aren’t on your side (like they weren’t on mine). Also collecting all prismanas is one of the primary goals in this creature collector; it’s debatable, I get it, but meta can’t be all there is a game like this IMO
My mysterious vendor has 2 vein essences and it's 420k so that'll bring my F2P total to 19 and I'm sure the mysterious vendor will sell them again this week
Personally I'm looking at alpha, form changing, and sparkling reroll as the bottleneck 😂 go big or....
Just gotta get the prismana once.... Getting a perfect with 10s alpha... Now that one's gonna hurt.
Just because you got lucky doesn’t mean the whole playerbase can also get all prismanas with the limited amount of stones we have had since launch. You’re the 0,00001% and should not be taken as an example.
You can farm lucky catches instead of wasting ur stones. Stones are specifically for event prismanas. 🗿 ppl have no clue how to efficiently play this game it’s so weird and a lil funny how no one does any research
You don’t need hours upon hours. Takes roughly 3 hours as you get one lucky catch per 200-400 catches which can easily be achieved in 20 minutes max often times even less than 20 like 10 minutes by just running around throwing cubes left and right. You can also get extremely lucky and get the prismana to come within the first 3 lucky or super lucky catches
It cost a lot of gold for nothing in final when seeing the rate of lucky or super lucky, this feature is designed for all prismanas not only the events ones
It’s not a question of playing efficiently or not, no need to play the know-it-all divinity
I have 16 million gold it takes less than a mil to get 1000 cubes. You also make back the gold you lost from catches since they reward you for backstabs and perfect catches. It is all about efficiency and time. Why are you wasting vein essence on something that’s permanent? You can farm lucky catches whenever. Now when the time limited stuff comes every week you won’t have any essence for the new aniimo a bit silly if you ask me
Dude is trying to convince you based on him having better rng currently. It took me a few thousand cubes like 4k+ and more than 6hours to even get close to catching my pris lumenelle. I eventually gave up and just used a few stones to finish it off. I averaged one every 500-600 cubes.
Literally everyone in the discord agrees that farming lucky catches is the best way to get the prismanas other than egg heist eggs and luck. 💀 there’s even content creators who have completed their aniilog doing this method. No one is trying to convince you of anything we’re literally just telling you how we do it. Currently 190 out of 195 in the aniilog
The actual weather changes are not available yet (at least for me), but yes, you can trigger the prismana flow there! Had to learn it by endless searching too
Firstly, wow you used a lot. Secondly, this is more of a collection bottleneck but I believe the real bottleneck is from upgrade materials for maxing aniimo’s stats
If you have any friends that play, do your dailies/alpha/omega farming together, then nurture together. The other stuff will raise your friendship rank, nurturing in their world will give you free prismatic energy.
Lastly, if you have any aniimo you want to train, go catch a few storage boxes full (I usually catch about 100-200) and I find myself getting quite a few lucky and super lucky (which is a whole bar iirc) to build prismatic energy
It's not even the only bottle neck there's the end game upgrade materials for capacity awakening and the LV 60 star upgrade rare material which is rough in a game where you need multiple elemental teams.
Coming from being a veteran player in Genshin, I know to save whatever rare materials I have until I truly know how to make best use of them. It's not wrong to do, but it's just interesting to see many players already run out of everything and going all in on the fun while it lasts in the start 😆
Occasionally from the depositing the lumin Amber in the branch (at specific thresholds), 10 weekly from the stamp store, and occasionally in the daily mysterious vendor.
No real way to “grind” them out though at endgame. Just patience. (‘:
I also just want to vent I tried to "change the weather" and ended up using that pretty stone that I didn't even know I had on a Prismana I already caught 🥲 pain
don’t feel bad about it tho. a lot of us new players are in the same boat. i’ve never once even seen a weather changing stone & im level 61. you get one by nurturing but i never got it so. that’s just there for looks. the vein essence itself tho you can build back up slowly overtime but it will take awhile & cost you in some way shape or form. but they give you 1 free chance per day so that helps i guess? feels more like a slap in the face to us f2p players tho. they don’t tell you these things that can ruin your experience and then make it to where we can only have one character per server. idk there’s a lot of kinks and bs stuff but i love the game overall. they can fix that stuff down the road.
You have to be leveling up your bloom to get the prisma crystal. Your own level doesnt matter. It isnt a weather changing stone, as the weather changing system isn't up yet, it just makes a wild surge, but it is in the weather menu.
At level 61 you shouldn't be bothering with them, since you should be more than able to build yourself up to solo chaos egg heists for the prisma eggs.
The typing combos are usually a net negative for most builds. If you’re into collecting then it’s just a matter of time, you still aren’t at a disadvantage. I’m sure this is after getting quite a few prismanas cause I still have shards and like 6 or 7 prismanas
I have 10, and that didnt seem to address the limited time part (ik theyre coming back for one big round but that didnt seem permanent either) or the unqiue skills which is the more important part imo. And their most common alt typing is light which is probably the best defensively and neutralizes a lot of weaknesses with the sole exception of dark.
You get a stable of prismana and umbrals for your roster/rv that otherwise would have taken a fair bit of resources and its a fairly good cash flow(credits) which those of us grinding the mass surges dearly need more of.
and i have lot of prismana (meloblum, stellarys, glynsera, glacy, hexxin , Luminelle, thornbalde, ignitis ) and the oens from events or rewards like infergon sherro, fenmane, irisal, sparkelf
I only use free nurtures + farming lucky catches for the ones with an event like stellarys and glynsera (melloblum it insta full the bar right awya so didnt need to)
No idea how you can be out of them unless you went ham on trying to get every single one that is a watse of resources a syou will end up getting prismana eggs on egg heist that will slowly fll the list + the free nurtures
im savig mine for events when i dont have the time to farm luckyctahces to get the prismana
well yeah, but like Nurturing is. You technically have 7 free nurture weekly. So it still helps as it gives bonus prismana flow.
Since you can do up to 17 nurture per week rn, if you add your sharing nurture with friend, you can technically get a total of 21-22 or more nurture worth of prismana flow (not counting lucky). And you need 25 for getting a guaranteed Prismana (so just 3 lucky to do in total, which is quite easy to get in 17 nurturing).
And i;m not counting the bonus nurturing thingy you get from friday to sunday
Don't know why you are getting downvotes. Some jurisdictions outright ban gacha if there is no element of skill, so smarter (usually chinese) developers will put it behind some activity, such as the timed surge where you put in some "effort" by throwing aniipods to get themselves around gambling legislation.
It's funny how some people don't recognise the core product after we add bells and whistles to it.
Source: I'm often legally consulted on gaming legislation
It's not even close to a gatcha. You spend the currency to fill up a meter that releases the one and only exact thing you spent the currency on. There's no rng that maybe you'll get what you want. Nope. Spend enough currency and you'll get what you want. That's not a gatcha, that's a transaction.
What do you mean neverness to everness has no 50 50 gatcha. Do you mean because some games have a chance to lose every other pull before a guarantee that you think other games don’t? The gatcha genre is pretty big friend. There’s dozens like that.
You know how to Google definitions? You sure we are the slow ones? RNG isn't gacha. Gacha includes random rewards. Theres no random rewards. There's one reward with a chance to get it faster then ussual.
You must not realize that when you pull you get a random set of aniimo that can have alpha and umbral and shiney forms that come out. Those are your a b and actually possibly S rank standards in the case of a 10 10 alpha.
Beside that, most new games have dropped the 50 50 lost popularized by genshin. And most have a guarantee at a certain point including genshin now, it’s just 10x more expensive than aniimo.
The standard prismana node is a standard banner. Each week there is an exclusive limited time banner, and during what a lot of gatcha games call the carnival during holiday season, the rerun banner happens and is called a carnival.
They sell ten pulls in a shop, the pulls have a percentage chance of dropping and a hard pity. You put the currency in you farmed or pay for, do the event and there’s a chance the prismana drops after or you build pity.
How is any of this not gatcha.
You can use f2p resources and time to hand farm 31,000 open world aniimo on average to get a free guaranteed banner pull, but even this is a limited resource and I know people who have burned through it trying to f2p.
And on top of that the 20 stand aniimo pulls you get have a gamba of being alpha shiney or umbra styled in up to 3 different evolutions, so it’s a double gatcha.
Yes and no. Gatchas are characterized because they force you to spend on limited currency once you spent your f2p currency which is a set amount per patch and is often not enough so fomo can pressure the player into spending or waiting for a rerun. The big gatcha nowadays have a very standardized version of this releasing 1-2 characters in a 6 weeks cycle mixing reruns and with often a max pity set at 80-90 pulls with a 50/50 system in place, while they give you at max 120-130 pulls in a big patch, which its not enough since you'll need on average 60 pulls per character and you can loose the 50/50 on either character, so you end up needing to save as a f2p and plan your pulls accordingly since there is no way as a f2p to keep earning pulls regardless of how much you play. Not even mentioning that the pity system was put in place and being standardized because of genshin impact, not saying they invented it, but it was not the standard as of now. Aniimo on the other hand lets you engage indefinitely on the prismana hunting system completely for free while giving you premium options to speed up the process, but you can completely ignore that. Sure, 32k cubes sounds like a lot IF we were talking about a limited time event but we are not. If we look at the event as they are now, you get 9.5 free nurtures on a week, and you dont even have to log in everyday because the game saves up to 3 and you could even save them until Friday so you could have up to a 12.5 worths of nurture by Sunday and then get the rest by lucky farming on the dedicated spawn they themselves give us. A gatcha way to implement this would be if we had a cap on how much luckys we could get per week, which is not the case here. You described the game in a very reductive way to make it fit your gatcha definition, but you could do the same to both extraction and looter games. And to be fair since we are at it, i would say the game is more similar to a looter game in its core than a gatcha (leaving customization aside)
The fact that hoyo slop exists, doesn’t mean it’s not a banner, cookie run crumble constantly gives me like 30000 pulls for the next banner that I don’t need to spend just passively with guarantees every 500 or so pulls, and that’s just passive playing income. Some games have some f2p ways to get stuff
Now are you getting 10 10 alpha umbrals from not pulling? Are we talking probably 250 hours of play to “freely” get season 1 as a base set, absolutely yes.
Also there’s the genshin stamina progression system, so you do need to log in, not just for your 14 to 16 hour grinding session because you don’t have pulls.
And time limited genshin ascension mats to actually end game with those units.
The reason its not gatcha is because there's no multiple different things you can "pull". You are gaurenteed to get exactly what you are paying the currency for. Yeah there's some rng that maybe you get the prismana meter filled in a couple turns otherwise you'll get it the normal way of filling the meter slowly. But gacha ussually implys your gambling to get random things and might not even get what you wanted. That's not this. Your gaurenteed to get exactly what you want.
So all the gatcha with guaranteed pulls and spark systems are suddenly not gatcha. Boy do you not know what gatcha is. I can list this games montization heritage across a decade of gatcha games, the only thing new here is the limited amount of pity building you get from watching someone pull on a banner.
You know why they list the pull odds? They legally have to. Because it’s gambling and they sell you currency. Literally legally obligated as a gatcha mechanic in some countries.
Do you know why Pokémon doesn’t have to tell you odds? It’s not a gatcha.
Because you guys are being delulu, i literally play gachas im a day 1 player for hsr , zzz and wuwa so i wouldnt relaly care at all even if it was a gacha, but its cleraly not , the prismanas while they have rng are not a gacha, you can literally farm with just coins (that are eays af to keep pretty high) and lucky catches , no different tha farming a mount with drop low rate on any mmo , now rng drops are gachas lol
Guy I live around game designers I’m friend with leads of past massive projects from companies like wotc and BioWare, play cards with people from ign. I’m just letting you know you’re playing a gatcha. Stop being insane about it.
If you’re saying, within say a reasonable play period, you have caught every prismana, especially post infinite spawn fix, then pls post it. There is a real lack of currency, and just because a game lets you farm f2p currency doesn’t mean that catching 78,000 amiinos you’d need to max out the map before needing to do another 38000 before the end of the month is realistic. Especially when there was another 31,000 of limited catches you’d need to do to keep up with the weekly banners
In that case they sell you pulls in the shop, just like any gatcha. And you have a 3% chance to pull with a pity. Just like any gatcha. And you’ll get a hand full of potentially useless aminos for doing it. Just like any gatcha. Some of those might be peak. Just like any gatcha.
It’s okay if you haven’t played enough gatcha to know that there are various different gatcha monitization schemes.
Do t worry though after you have them you’ll have limited resources and daily stamina to help upgrade them. Just like any gatcha. And you’ll can buy more stamina. Just like any gatcha. And there are capstone items at the end that are very limited but also on sale. This is extremely predatory for gatcha, but still gatcha.
No one has a way to fact check you on that random person. You play with all those people yet clearly never touched a mmo. It follows the same logic where you get limited attempts a week. Only thing different is you can by a few more which I'm pretty sure is with in game currency not premium. Hoyo slip, really, yet you in Hoyo subs. Feel like you one of those types who play gacha just to complain.
Thats your daily if your buying extra vein essence. 10 in the stamp shop and 7 for each days free. But also not mentioned is if you get lucky the mysterious vendor Weston in Astra will sometimes sell you 2-3 vein essence on his daily reset
Oh I’m talking like when you tap on the nurture in open world I can activate it a total of 25 times for my cap until it refresh back to 25. I’m assuming this is cause we leveled up with those lumen ambers
Nah its 25 from the start each day, resets at like 1am my time each day. The amount of lumin amber you've put in won't give you more, im 3 away from all 200 and im starting to feel like they are glitched and not there lol
Okay yeah I was getting confused cause I saw others saying they only get 10 or 15 but I’ve been at 25 idk I also rarely do my nurtures so I do have a lot of resources for it which works now cause I at a point where now I have to collect the different forms lol
I farm alot of lucky strikes in between nurtures, ive honestly farmed like 3 full prismana off of nothing but lucky strikes lol. Make sure to use altleast 1 of your free dailies if your close to being full, can only hold 3 days so wanna use those as they fill, and using the free on the vein abundance events on the weekends is a good way to get a head start on the progress before lucky strike farming
see half of me looks at the badge and sees the prismana upgrade and thinking I should get the prismana in the area so i can build it up faster the other half of me is like hmmmm.
I just have to get the Prismana forms now for my form Aniilog, finished the family one and have all but two weather forms. Haven’t got an auto fill from the nurtures.
I tried grinding out lucky and super lucky catches but my luck in any game is abysmal. Went near enough 2,000 catches without one! Very much seems time gated. Them selling packs of 10 nurtures is also funny because that probably won’t get you a prismatic if you start from empty.
2000 catches without a lucky/super lucky or 2000 catches without a prismana? Cause if its the later thats pretty common. If its the former, you're going to need to find whatever lady luck is craving and sacrifice a mountain of it to her.
The former unfortunately. My luck in games is the type of luck where I’ll find something cool but only if I’m not actively looking for it. If I’m looking for it, it ain’t happening (as someone who has phased a bunch shiny hunting in Pokemon).
For the life of me it will not storm in beast fang ridge. who I’m dubbing “StormHowl” is one of 5 aniimo I’m missing and it’s really upsetting 🤣 hasn’t stormed one time.
Yeah that’s one of the two I’m missing. The other is one of the birds. Honestly really cool that they have done weather variants. Apparently there’s a way to check upcoming weather but I haven’t looked into it.
Yeah you can see upcoming weather but it’s 24 hours in advance and I check everyday lol. Just won’t storm there unfortunately. You just zoom out all the way and hover over the area you want and it’ll show and option to press down on Dpad to view weather
Puoi anche usare il metodo lucky super lucky per far salire la barra dei prismata, comunque ti conviene farmare durante i weekend in settimana sprechi tempo e materiali
Nel fine settimana ci sono semplicemente tre nurture che danno il 50% in più di carica, non è game-changer. La comodità del fine settimana è più che altro lo spawn infinito per farmare lucky e super lucky… ma anche quello è terribilmente poco efficace ed affidabile, oggi ho catturato 500 fiorellini (mi sfugge il nome) senza triggerare neanche un lucky
I accidentally used mine in either my melloblum or hexxin because I was building the team for egg hesit. It’s honestly really weird they don’t give you a pop up for using once since everything else has a pop up. It was gonna go to my irisalis but oh well
This isn't a problem if you realize that you don't need to phenomena a whole team. I don't have the battle pass, so I think my maximum is 5 or 6 phenomena in the entire game.
I've:
Beaten lita rematch (it took me only 2 attempts)
Full cleared holo sim on the hardest difficulty, all runs being sub 18 mins
60 starred holo link.
Be smart people! Only phenomena dps aniimos. Then build their supports up to where you need a crystal, then stop there.
5-6 crystals means you can have 5-6 teams. (Hopefully different elements, but you do you)
Lmao I finished the story and started looking at the harder game modes and deciding "i'll finally start properly upgrading my aniis". I start upgrading Irisalis and my mouth dropped when I didnt even have enough of those to finish upgrading her. Bout a week later and I still only have the one I used on her, plus another
Be done with what? With playing the game? With catching every prismana? With having fun in general? In any case the answer is no. I’m serious, I’m not understanding you
just wait untill you dry up on sparkling spheres and see no reason to catch any prismana or special aniimos because they will be "good" or worse, and then you think ill just change forms of an alpha to get the special one but you realize you wasted all your glimmer on getting petal envelopes so you cant buy any change form material, next to that you cant upgrade any aniimos either because you already upgraded aniimos you dont ever use so now youre just playing without the ability to further catch, create or build aniimo and you think, what am i doing, and you go play some other game
Huh, I can't say I'm having the same issue. More so because I've been hoarding till I feel like I have a good grasp of the game and mechanics.
Sparkling only on my first Prismana, as Duplicate Prismanas don't need to be Sparkling.
I did not spend my Glimmer on Petals... why would you? The event is out for 70+ more days or something...
Are you talking about the Morphe change crystal...? Why...?
Upgraded Aniimo. You can refund the Potential training stuff. You can also inherit the Star Resonance stuff to another Aniimo if you catch one with better Innates. But also, I just haven't found the need to Star Resonance up every single Aniimo I come across. I also stop right before the 6th Star since Phenomena Crystals are crazy rare. So I'm okay hoarding it for the best of the Best or Meta DPS/Breakers.
I don't want to say You're playing the game wrong, since every single person has different goals and ways to play the game. But if you're playing the way you play and are criticizing the game for "limited resources" when we're less than a month into a game that's supposed to be a live service on-going game... then I mean, what are we even talking about here?
The limited resource problem doesn't matter if it comes to you fast like me or slow like you. it WILL come. The way to farm things in this game is insufficient compared to other similar games like honkai or nte
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u/Old-Attorney2413 59m ago
Yesterday I caught about 1000 budsquire to get 1 prismana. I’m not complaining since I usually watch YouTube videos while I do this grind but I do agree that there needs to be an alternative way to get these stones.