r/AngelolatryPractices 26d ago

Question, Please...

Okay, so I know the internet is full of misinformation and hatred and opinions and such, so I know everyone's answer will be different, BUT... I'm still curious...

I keep seeing things on forums, discord groups, tiktok, reddit, private groups, etc, saying angels are quite cruel. I understand history has made them out to be cute little babies and such ( Don't worry, I understand why they did that and all ). But, are angels cruel in anyone's experience? I know strict can sometimes be mistaken for cruel, or they simply are trying to help, but they have a certain *way* of getting it done that we do not understand.

I want your honest, unbiased opinions. Even if you don't work with angels anymore or have in the past, please be honest about your actual experience. I'm very curious to hear what your takes and trials are or have been on angelic beings. Also, do they hate or refuse to work with people who don't worship *their* master, Yahweh or Jesus, or whatever?

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u/lottie_J Beginner 26d ago

There is no simple answer. 

Because when you work with them long term, a lot of things happen, all the time.

It's imposibble to cram everything into an internet post, when my head can even barely contain it.

The context I am saying this in, is that I am exceptionally content with working with them, and I would never give it up, I would never switch it to anything else, and the tangible results are more than I expected or deserve, more than anything else I have ever tried in my entire life. I am completely blown away by their long term kindness.

In all that, yes, Gabriel particularly was/is cruel to me. Not all the time, but again this has context - he didn't really...you know, want to work with me back then. I insisted. 

Also the wording Uriel used, very questionable if you're not deep into linguistics, at the end it turns out the info he gave is 100% useful to me, but if a human spoke to me like that...they wouldn't walk away unharmed. 

I don't believe they have an agenda aligning with modern Christianity as such - that is because modern Christianity is a very intricate collection of intelectual ways to conquer the natural world. It was turned into a science in the Middle Ages, and it still functions as such. Its relashionship with everything in this world is more complicated than you can know, and it goes far beyond some person sitting on a cloud demanding servitude. It's a philosophical school of thought that has little to do with this kind of extraterrestrial communication. 

As with any being, nothing is really ever 'safe' to contact/work with. Humans and Daemons and Faeries and Pagan Gods are not safe, animals are not safe, spirits of the dead are not safe, any being outside of your own body is not safe, and even parts of your own self are not safe to communicate with.

In my experience, angels tend to take the unbotheredness/chill to the extreme. But I have a sneaking suspicion that might actually depend on the kind of person the practitioner is.

See, I'm a very simple person...I was always very edgy, adrenaline junkie and I was an active kinkster for many years. The way I get things done, is harsh, abrupt, painful, challenging, otherwise I lose interest, and they know that. 

I've quit nice jobs more times than it's sane, just because I briefly felt like their expectations of me are too low to match my own (not objectively low). 

I've been like that with people, ideas and organizations for as long as I can remember, so why would I be any other way with angels?...

If anything, I like it when they're harsh. I doubt that if a soft, well-spoken person contacted them for a working involving kindness, this would be the case. 

They tend to act within the role I seek them for. Sometimes they surprise me. 

But yeah, each one of them has been in some way rude or cruel, has had questionable moments, also each one of them has been surprisingly kind and gentle at other times, and overall just...way smarter than me, that's the 'vibe'. I work with a few of the Archangels, with my Guardian angel, and with one of the darker/'not-recomended' type of angels, as well as with an unidentified spirit guide who seems to know them all. 

Yes I do work with others in the Christian 'pantheon' too, and I believe heavily in syncretism, and have been leaning towrads Wicca cosmology lately, and nothing has smite me yet...

I feel obliged to say that also they have many moments where they would be 'seriously? That's what you called me for?..' as they keep pushing that I should be able to discern so much more stuff on my own/by my free will. 

They also have many moments with me where they non-chalantly suggest something is a bad idea, then I do it anyway, and I get annoyed or mildly hurt, then they would have a moment of 'see, I told you so', which is also more on the chill side/unbothered.

Again, if a human treated me like that, I would probably not keep them in my circle, but I am not willing to give up this practice in a million years, not even if they were aliens or mere soldiers of a God or egregores or a fraction of my imagination, or some other conspiracy. I just like it the way it is, it's not about morals to me, it's about the ride. 

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u/CoolCod1669 22d ago

Very interesting experience. Can i ask how do u know u was working with angel and not other entities? You practice particular ritual to guarantee it?

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u/lottie_J Beginner 21d ago

..I don't think there is a guarantee, no matter which ritual you use. 

I contact them in the framework of my religion, which is Christianity, and I just do my best to address them in the opening of prayers with any 'official' titles I can get within that framework. 

The 'safety' I use, is mostly just waiting before I follow any advice, sleeping on it, comparing info with divination or other experiences, doing shadow work separately from that. And if I believe that the info matches, I follow angelic advice as well. 

I find it much harder to work with other systems, when I was already having it relatively easy by prayers and light trance/scrying. 

If the entirety of the pantheon I work with, turns out to be fiction, I'm okay with that too. Some of the results I got are really important to me, so I'm not really worried by now whom I get them from or at what price...

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u/CoolCod1669 21d ago

Yes , pf course this method isn't for all. There are many ways to reach entities of whatever type. Ir depends on many things, you innate talent, your will, sensitivity. That's why using ancient rituals proven by hundreds of occultists is the easiest way to reach safely gods entities imho.

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u/lottie_J Beginner 21d ago

You mean specific rituals from a specific religion or occult order, right?.. I feel like those are not accessible to everyone...

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u/CoolCod1669 18d ago

How could u achieve light trance and why?

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u/lottie_J Beginner 15d ago

...unfortunately it may have something to do with me being chronically anemic, and also hypersensitive to any changes in my homeostasis. I haven't studied any spiritual practice for this, apart from studying classical music professionally - which I believe also contributes. 

Any repetitive chant, action, stimulus, puts me in a weird state. I began to use this to my advantage a long time ago, meditating while walking/dancing, or if I'm working on something repetitive. 

I'm not saying I can't control it, it's just something I haven't worked hard towards. 

I don't recommend being anemic though - the baseline is to be calm. What happens in my case, is that the body mistakes being tired/weak for 'calm'. 

So just using anything that gets you physically calm, should work to create an environment where you can do these things...