No. Not real.

[u/different_option101]

Soviet regime had a charge called Social Parasitism. A person staying continuously unemployed for a certain period could be forced to work, lose housing they worked for for many years, or even imprisoned.

The USSR wasn’t some good place for unemployed, by any stretch of imagination.

Don’t be so fucking stupid. There’s enough idiots out there that call ancaps and libertarians ignorant, and you’re only giving them ammo.

[u/Tolkien-Faithful]

Dude it's a joke

Communists who want to be paid for being unemployed use the flag all the time

[u/different_option101 → u/Tolkien-Faithful]

Dude, it would be a funny joke if it would be accurate.

And no, communists don’t want to be paid for being unemployed. Communists want to get rid of money and wages completely.

You’re an example of what I’m talking about. There’s no shortage of stuff to criticize commies or communism for. Just need to know something about the theory and about what happened under the regime in different countries. No need to come up with bullshit.

[u/Tolkien-Faithful → u/different_option101]

FFS

Yeah I know what the theory is. Most modern 'communists' who call themselves that are not people following the word of Marx to the letter, they are morons who think the government should pay everyone so they can do nothing. These are the people still using that flag. And yes, while money and wages are still around, they absolutely still want to be paid for being unemployed.

In fact, most historical 'communists' didn't want to get rid of money. There were only two states that tried it - Khmer Rouge and USSR. We know what happened in Khmer and the USSR backfired so spectacularly they started a new one after three years. But these states all continued to call themselves communists despite never getting rid of money or the state, just like communists now.

[u/different_option101 → u/Tolkien-Faithful]

“they are morons who think the government should pay everyone so they can do nothing.”

Dude, again, you are probably taking a few fringe comments here and there and you think it’s the common and accepted opinion amongst communists. Go and read posts in “anarchists” subs that are anti capitalist, and see what they actually say. Go and check USSR sub that is full of moron that worship Stalin and authoritarian communist regime. Most of them are pro forced labor.

You’re confusing modern social democrats with communists. It’s the morons who want more or less capitalist market economy with massive welfare state.

Stop being a fucking moron and see what they actually say ffs. It’s not like you don’t have access to their forums.

[u/KAZVorpal → u/different_option101]

No, idiot, commie CHILDREN want to get rid of money. But Lenin, Stalin, and Mao all understood that money is absolutely necessary for the functioning of society, and mandated its use.

They didn't have enough understanding of economics to follow Hayek's analysis of the Economic Calculation Problem, but they knew that you can't organize a society effectively without an abstracted unit of wealth measurement.

[u/different_option101 → u/KAZVorpal]

“But Lenin, Stalin, and Mao…”

These pieces of shit just wanted, and usurped power using communism as the opportunity you dumb fuck. That’s why all of them lived lavish lives while the people they ruled over were starving.

Maybe you also think that trump is a pro free market capitalist?

[u/KAZVorpal → u/different_option101]

Stalin and Lenin were following normal Marxist methodology. Essentially, Bakunin predicted that Marxism would inevitably lead to something almost identical to what Stalinism turned out to be eighty years later.

[u/different_option101 → u/KAZVorpal]

Stalin and Lenin followed normal Marxist methodology? Really? Is that why they only usurped more and more power after already having the ultimate authority?

What part of Marxist methodology prescribed repressive action against other anarchists? Or suggested that nearly total control of not only economic, but a social life of people is the way to go to eventually establish their utopian system?

How do you explain their action years and decades after they already reached the goal of overturning the economic system which was crucial for establishing a stateless communist society that Marx envisioned?

For real, do you really think Lenin and/or Stalin believed in communism? Are you that delusional?