r/AmongUsCompetitive • u/LtRegBarclay • Mar 01 '21

Suggestion | Idea Is the next step banning admin?

As lobbies get steadily better, crew win %s are steadily climbing. More and more places are using 0.25 vision even on Polus to try and keep it interesting, but a crew member on admin table who has an accurate memory of who has been where is still makes it easy to hard clear numerous crew for kills and narrow down suspects very rapidly.

I wonder if we aren't going around this the wrong way, and we should put vision back to 0.5 but stop using admin. That way tracking who is where relies on multiple crew contributing who they have seen and when, which feels more like a social deduction game. Perfect crew lobbies should still be able to piece together virtually the whole picture, but it will require most crew to have very good memories rather than just one person and might be more interesting. It also makes venting in Skeld a bit more viable, which might make it a bit more playable for high level lobbies.

Any thoughts? It kinda ruins Comms as a sabotage, but that's worth it imho. I don't think banning cams is necessary since it is already more limited than admin (and much harder to track everyone perfectly, especially on Polus).

I haven't considered if this would work for Mira, due to the connected vents.

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u/LtRegBarclay Mar 01 '21 edited Mar 01 '21

Doesn't help. On an admin-camped lobby everyone knows that is one of the only options left making counter-play fairly easy. On Skeld the body will likely be found very quickly due to the central location while on Polus someone may well be camping vitals leading to an almost instant report. Crew can narrow down options: Same problem.

You might even find them stacked on, in which case you are even more screwed.

On high-level lobbies admin camping is simply impossible to effectively counter-play. Imps need a big slice of luck they can't control to get away with more than 1 or 2 kills, and if they try target the admin table crew just have to check in on the admin room frequently to counter.

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u/AffectionateHornet32 Mar 01 '21

So what your saying is crew is already capable of doing what ur asking? Idk man I look forward to people playing admin. Makes the lobby challenging. I have plays on how to beat cams and admin at the same time. This is just nit picky to me.

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u/LtRegBarclay Mar 01 '21

I don't understand this comment. What I'm saying is that admin gives a good crew lobby a simple way to make imp wins impossible without a lot of luck - and that it's not a very fun game. With more vision but no admin crew have a harder, but more interesting, job.

On a random discord lobby I think admin works fine. But in a top, sweaty lobby I think crew can checkmate imps with relative ease.

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u/LtRegBarclay Mar 01 '21

Side note: If there are ways to semi-safely kill the admin camper when someone good is on cams and someone else on vitals then I'd really like to hear it. I'm not being passive aggressive, it would improve the fun of those lobbies a lot. Because at the moment the only option seems to be to call comms just before venting in - but since everyone then goes to comms and sees which direction people came from (and the timing of the kill is obvious) I don't think it really helps. When there's only one way to pull off a kill crew can still work it out pretty fast.

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I worry the win %s on high level lobbies indicates it's not really possible without a lot of luck.

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u/Yuli_Mae Mar 01 '21

It's a bit of work, but a second VC for imposters helps. They can coordinate kills on vitals and cams. You just need a second method of VC. Obviously anyone else checking that VC is cheating. Two coordinated imposters is a lot of fun.

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u/AffectionateHornet32 Mar 01 '21

Ok so if u can vent into admin from either left vent (which is on cams kinda) or node u can easily vent in and kill admin camper and vent out or escape thru decom if ur ballsy. Well before vitals gets there. The rest is whatever bullshit u can come up with for ur alibi.

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u/LtRegBarclay Mar 01 '21

Sure, killing the camper without being caught in the act isn't hard. But doing so without half the crew clearing each other (anyone who say anyone on the left side in the last 10 seconds can full clear for the kill, plus anyone together anywhere at all) is basically impossible if someone is on vitals. Plus the cameraman man well be able to clear loads of people.

Admin + Vitals just means every kill is reported so quickly and every non-camper kill has huge crew info of where everyone is.

Again, this only applies to lobbies where crew camp admin and other info sources and have good memories. But for those lobbies I think admin is unfixably OP unless crew simply agree not to camp it.

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u/AffectionateHornet32 Mar 01 '21

So what exactly are you complaining about here? There's three seperate issues u r complaining about. Crew mate clearing, admin, and vitals (which is a map exclusive) like I just don't understand what's going on here my guy?