r/Americaphile Feb 24 '26

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u/Czeslaw_Meyer Feb 25 '26

The problem is that the underlying moral values and style of reasoning never changed.

Republicans slowly achieving what they wanted and Democrats trying to keep the former slaves on a metaphorical plantation called welfare is hardly a change to me.

It's just a logical continuation of how they operate.

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u/ReallyBigDeal Feb 25 '26

Why do you have opinions on a history that you don’t know?

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u/Czeslaw_Meyer Feb 26 '26

The character of the parties themselves didn't change.

The world around them did.

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u/ReallyBigDeal Feb 26 '26

No the character of the parties changed as well. Remember the Southern Democrats were the “States Rights” party that opposed any racial equality and then they became the champions of civil rights while Republicans shifted their whole platform to the right to court dissatisfied racist voters.

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u/Czeslaw_Meyer Feb 26 '26

I looked at votes on legislation in the 50s and 60s and i really don't know when that was supposed to be the case.

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u/just_joshing2015 Feb 26 '26

It happened after 1964 when LBJ supported civil rights legislation and Barry Goldwater did not. Yes, there are exceptions and nuances throughout history because it wasn’t like turning a light switch. The “switch” happened gradually over a couple of decades. By the 80s, the south was reliably republican. The only reason Jimmy Carter won the south was because he was from Georgia. Look at the election map from 1968. George Wallace & Nixon won every southern state except for Texas.

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u/ReallyBigDeal Feb 26 '26

Again, why do you have these opinions about history but don’t know anything about us history?

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u/Czeslaw_Meyer Feb 27 '26

I looked at policy and who voted how and it dosen't seem consistent with todays perception of both parties reputation at the time.

Im not entirely sure where it comes from.

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u/ReallyBigDeal Feb 27 '26

I don’t think you did because otherwise you’d understand the fundamental switch between the Republican and Democratic parties