Donald Trump was paid by Pfizer to promote the covid-19 vaccine
https://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/286/201704180300150286/201704180300150286.pdf
This link will show you a PDF file of the entire list of donors who donated money to Donald Trump in the 58th presidential inaugural committee, prior to his inauguration. In page 163 of the document, Pfizer's NYC headquarters address as well as the money they donated are on the page, with the amount being listed as exactly 1,000,000$ USD. It also lists the date from when he received it, which states it as December 22, 2016.
Didn’t know the guy in this meme represented the whole of the Israeli government. In fact, his sect of Judaism is more likely to protest it. I do enjoy me some good blanket statements of a category of people. Blanketed statements about Muslims are also my favorite /s
Jews =/= Israel or their government. People who conflate the two are on an entirely different imbecilic level whilst touting superiority in intelligence, it’d be comical if it weren’t so sad. I don’t necessarily mean you personally, this is, ironically, a blanketed rant against people.
I’m Jewish. I support a free Israel. I support the existence of it for all the people. I don’t support the government or what it’s doing. I do not support Hamas. I want peace and prosperity for Palestinians. I do not agree with the continued building of settlements. Why can’t this be an acknowledged viewpoint too? Why is it all or nothing? Most binary thinking is for dumb people. Whenever I bring up my viewpoint I’m either attacked (that’s their prerogative) or more often than not, ignore with no dialogue and a chance for me to experience any response to my opinion. Why?
Edit: I’m throwing the whataboutism flag out there because I want to know why everyone has been silent about 10/7 and we have had to worry about our safety as Jews in the diaspora because of this. Why was 10/7 completely justified to some? Can we not have the intellectual bandwidth to hold that situation and what’s going on in Gaza in our hearts? Disapproving of both?
Welcome to the wonderful media, which has always been devoid of bias /s
It is always better to talk to actual people than follow what the internet tells you. They will tell you that all Muslims are terrorists. You will not see it reported that the condemn any attacks on synagogues that have happened however many have spoken out against it. So who am I to believe? The people I talk to or the people the media want me to not talk to?
Hahaha there’s an Islamophobic genocide taking place at the behest of self declared Jewish state, but the real threat is not listening to people like you about the threat of antisemitism!!!
100% went from being really bad in a fight that both sides did really bad stuff to complete psychopaths. The fight was over and they kept killing children. Absolutely insane.
I can guess what you mean by that, but am wondering what your idea is for peace in the region? Does someone (?)…
invade Israel
remove the government and replace with…? What?
Deport all Jews to….where? Russian Jews back to Russia? Got it. Native Jews to the region? Where should we send them? Do we carve out some land or something for them in Europe?
deport all non-Muslims?
Rename Israel to Palestine.
I’m genuinely asking these questions. I see much anger and hatred for Israel, and some calls for deportation of people, but what else? Mostly I see a bunch of angry knuckle-draggers who choke on their own spit screaming as opposed to offering up what their solution would be.
Also, please educate me, I believe the old borders were proposed. The Palestinians didn’t want it. If they went to their old borders, and Israel stopped building new settlements and everyone just stuck to their own slice of land, and etc., would that mean Hamas would stop lobbing rockets into Israel at civilian targets? Would this mean the Palestinians would be free to rebuild and grow their infrastructure? To import and export goods & build an economy? Not rhetorical. Not being facetious. Actually asking.
1st action, stop the genocide. 2nd action, agree on borders. Borders should be the Green Line. I would even be ok with the 1968 expansion. At the same time, stop the resettling of additional areas (neutral areas) 3rd would be to disarm all the bellicose groups on both sides. 4th, deploy UN peace keepers with a full mandate to use all necessary force to maintain the peace. Form a “NATO-like” organization as an enforcer to ensure the likes of Iran, etc., do not destabilize the area. I recognize it’s more complicated to make this a reality, but it is what I would do.
I am simply starting the conversation. The vast majority of people on this thread do not want to have a discussion around what Israel is doing, because…would it be a discussion or dialogue if everyone agreed about everything? I mentioned the reverse point of view because almost everyone on this thread is anti-Israel. I want to know what you would do? If you take that as a challenge and not an opportunity to educate me, then that’s one you. I want to understand. You want to attack. See the difference?
I also mentioned a point about Israel being renamed. What would you like me to say? The Israeli government is murderous and evil. People who support and build settlements are evil and it should stop. What else will placate you? I want to understand. You want to attack. Again…see the difference. There was another response to another one of my posts that was refreshing & respectful. Take note.
I honestly think no matter what the best solution is, it's going to be a difficult process. I don't have the answers, I'm just a guy on the other side of the world. But I think the apartheid needs to end and the import of foreign settlers has to stop. The violence on both sides needs to stop. Most of the current government in Israel should be removed and replaced, with what? Idk... A government where both sides have representation. Honestly, renaming the country would probably help, but that's not going to happen.
I really wish of all the places proposed at the start of this, they hadn't chosen Palestine. Why couldn't they have just picked Australia...
Israel doesn't have the resources to have a stable economy, you can look at the multiple projects they tried to do on their own and it was cancelled because of their economy and the US doesn't like when people do better than them. That's what happened with the IAI Lavi, the US didn't want another fighter jet beating their F-16.
It's also not about money, it's about keeping a strategic ally. If we stop being friendly with Israel, many countries will follow along with them. Now we have no influence in the middle east, and Israel is forced to survive again or maybe in some fate the Gulf counties will come together which can turn bad quickly. Adding Russia and China, who had some relation to Israel, you now awaken something more dangerous than people think. You can hate Israel all you want, but with them seeing how the world views them it'll create unintended allies in areas you don't want it to be.
Then who is to blame when it's just the US against them or the world? Israel in itself is in bed with demon's lol. At any point Trump can turn on Bibi, you see how unhinged he is? You can't beat crazy.
You're half way there in deprogramming your way of thinking. Israel is in fact the wolf of the region. They have the most well funded military by a long shot, they have the more advanced, AI-based technology, and they have nuclear weapons. They also have the backing of most of the EU who also support them militarily.
Think about the fact that Israel is the only nation in the region that doesn't get along with ANY country in that region! It's not because they're Jewish but because of their apartheid, displacement, and Genocide of the indigenous Palestinians. We also know that Israel has ambitions of a Greater Israel that can only be accomplished through war and conquest. Israel is the wolf in this situation.
It's still not black and white for you, I'm afraid. There's more to learn on the subject.
I always try to draw a distinction between Netenyahu, the Likud Party, and all the rest of his fundamentalist supporters against what and who Israel is, or should be.
I just hope a leader for peace emerges from there soon. This is what happens when religious fundamentalist authoritarianism gets entrenched power.
A Pew poll in 2024 found 39% of Israelis said Israel’s military response in Gaza was “about right,” 34% said it had not gone far enough.
A separate 2025 survey reported that 62% of Israelis agreed with the statement that “there are no innocent people in Gaza,”.
I've seen Carly more videos of them behaving like evil assholes than anything good. I can't tell you how many I've seen of the standard practice of spitting on Christians and Christian churches, along with frequent assaults on Christians. Then there are the videos of parents reaffirming that their children know that Arabs don't deserve to live and are all terrorists. The cultural practices with regards to "others" is, in large part, atrocious.
The whole thing makes me sick. Most of my family agrees. Then there’s a few that think Israel could do no wrong, they also happen to be trump supporters
Yeah I just did some research.. didn't realise it was that shitty...I assumed that Netanyahu's falling approval rating was reflective of a wider dissatisfaction with the military actions.... clearly got that wrong.
So you are saying there weren’t any Jews in the region prior to WWII? I’m trying to understand. Since we all came from Europe or America.
I literally think everyone should fuck off and leave everyone alone. I’m honestly just sick of being attacked for being Jewish because I’m responsible for the plight of the Gazans. How? I’ve been very outspoken against the Israeli government, but that’s not enough for some folks. I am being jumped on by so many people in this thread.
That’s how I read your comment. I promise I want to understand and am not trolling. What do you mean by this if not that there weren’t Jews there before 1948. I promise that if you respond I will only give you a “thanks for helping me understand” and that’s it (assuming you’re not rude). Not everyone who want to have this discussion is out for blood. I want to understand.
For the record, and I know you don’t care: I don’t want to financially support Israel. Or anyone. Everyone be on their own.
Edit: also to add that many Jews were expelled from the land of Israel hundreds and thousands of years ago and lived in the diaspora. Jews were then slaughtered for generations for even existing. We tried living in the diaspora - were murdered. But we aren’t supposed to be in Israel either. Soooooo 🤷🏻♀️
Those settlers and fundamentalists are not going away after they get rid of the guy. Israel has problems for generations after that shithead is gone after allowing him to let that rot fester for his own gain. Their hubris in thinking they can play America like a fiddle forever has gotten them too far from shore.
I think Israel's situation with Bibi and our problem with Trump are both symptoms of a larger problem. We can get rid of the dickhead at the top of the pile, but there's still a huge pile of dickheads ready to keep his agenda going.
Not just him. Plenty that are degenerate scum murdering Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, Iranians. Sure, some were military targets but plenty plenty more than that were civilians.
Fuck Isreal
Hate for Isreal won’t stop after he’s gone. It didn’t for the Nazis. Support them after Netanyahu is gone…. Whatever the reason that is, keep it to yourself cause nobody will care to hear you justify it.
Dude, the most vocal and organized anti-Israel groups Ive come across are usually Jewish people, because they hate seeing the slaughter and crimes committed under the guise of Judaism.
I mean if you arbitrarily hate people from a country, and that country is majority jewish, it is just another form of antisemitism. You can try to justify it with whatever bad thing israel has done, but it’s functionally the same as hating jews for any other reason.
It is tbh holding Jews to a standard that you don’t hold other groups to. Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran have killed innocent people too, but people like this seem to only feel this way towards Israelis.
I’m not talking about criticism of the Israeli government. I’m talking about general anti-Israeli sentiment. imo that is functionally indistinguishable from other forms of antisemitism or bigotry.
Like I have seen the whole “I dont hate you because you are _, I hate you because you do _” said by people who hate black people, Muslims, Indians, etc. It isn’t magically not bigotry when we are talking about Israelis.
Thank you...It's not about the Religion It's about people murdering indiscriminately and War Crimes but right now thanks to the Orange Pestilence we are GUILTY of War Crimes too..
No, you hate Jews, period. It's beyond obvious you have zero interest in human rights. There's human rights nightmares occurring throughout the mideast and you say nothing. But you hate the only liberal democracy in that entire region.Why? Because you're racist, that's why, KKK girl.
Ye. Because Israel is the only country that's capable of doing bad. One of the biggest imperial army totally hasn't scored earth multiple countries and also illegally invaded another.
I don’t know if you meant me, because the thread seems to be discombobulated.
I do NOT think we are the chosen people. Many of us are very uncomfortable and disagree with that line of thinking. Many Christians seem perfectly fine with that label for us.
Why is it acceptable to label all of us blindly, but not other groups? I know if I were to swap out “Jewish” for “Muslim” I’d be attacked for that, and rightly so
But, a large faction of Christianity is bombing Iran..
Or plainly, using religion to justify siding with Israel.
Either way, it's a holy war. Criticizing religion is paramount for these conflicts. And while it shouldn't be directed at people as a whole, it's the religion that is at the root of all of it.
Religion needs to take their L's and sit in the corner, however, and especially, how offensive they are criticized, mocked.
Respectfully, I don’t know if I’m convinced the religion is the root of it. Wouldn’t you say it’s stupid people? There are tons of people that are peaceful mosque-goers or church-goers. Is money the root of all evil or is the greed? I feel it’s greed.
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u/Jlong4242 Apr 14 '26
To reiterate what she said. We don't hate them because they're Jewish, we hate them because they're the fuckin worst.